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Ferris
| Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 02:52 pm: |
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shhhh, don't tell the topic cops we're talkin' like this on here... ...go to Tale Section... ...shhhh.............. |
Dynarider
| Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 03:35 pm: |
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We innovate, we don't need to capitalize on someone else. Are you claiming that Buell "invented" mass-centralization without the benefit of others experiments? That may be what Ben is referring to. |
Ara
| Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 03:53 pm: |
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Here's the photo that goes with the NPR interview that Henrik posted. Excellent, thanks Henrik! |
Fgoodspeed
| Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 05:24 pm: |
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Can anyone tell me where I might be able to find some sort of how to guide online for working on Evos? |
Nevco1
| Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 10:10 pm: |
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Have you tried Whitehorse Press? I believe they are online and have ads in the back of most motorcycle rags. |
Steve_a
| Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 10:14 pm: |
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You could make a case that Moto Guzzi invented mass centralization in about 1953, with their laydown singles and 120 degree V-Twins. There are important lessons that get forgotten and relearned, and almost no aspect of motorcycle design is entirely novel. |
Awprior
| Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 10:28 pm: |
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Quote of the day from the owner of Hourglass Racing on American Thunder: "If you're going to have a race bike, it better not sound like a Husqvarna chainsaw" |
Awprior
| Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 11:33 pm: |
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Anyone else see how many Buells were shown with the Barber Museum transition? |
Buellish
| Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 12:27 pm: |
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I counted 3.I saw 2 on display,when I was there in 2001 |
Aesquire
| Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 03:09 pm: |
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Standing in the H-D dealer, chatting with a guy riding a Yamaha scooter, he asks "which bike here has the most Horsepower?". I glance around, point at the V-Rod, "that one.." then over at the XB12, "then that one." pause, " guess which one handles better?" I ask. Scooter rider laughs, "what do you ride?" I point out the door at my M2. More laughter. As I leave, he's sitting on the XB9SL making "hmmm" noises. have a nice ride.
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Thunderbolt_dad
| Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 08:26 pm: |
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Aesquire, next time you get the question, ask BHP or RWHP, than you have the option of pointing to the 12 first. |
Anonymous
| Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 08:33 pm: |
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Dyna, I just took exception to your claim that Buell copied Honda. Not true. Check out when they started talking about it, and it was definitely after 1985 when the RR1000 was shown at the Great American Motorcycle shows. Inside scoop: At the first one of these shows in California that year, a group of Japanese from Honda took the poster of the RR1000 that was sitting on an easel next to the RR1000 late in the day after the show closed (and the one Buell person there, Erik, had left). Erik found out when he asked the guard, who said that this group had walked out with it, and he assumed it was theirs since they were exhibitor staff. The poster showed the bike with bodywork off and talked about the features, including putting the shock absorber and muffler underneath for mass centralization. Also, I flat guarantee that Buell is working harder on tri-axial mass optimization than anyone else, and is further along at it. Mass centralization is not the same as lowering the mass, as Steve pointed out earlier. |
Dynarider
| Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 10:31 pm: |
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Anony, I never stated nor claimed that Buell copied Honda. I merely mentioned that Buell did not invent the term nor the concept. And I gave praise that Buell is the one who is actually building the bikes & marketing them using the terminology. Gotta remember that even tho I do bitch about my bike...with good reason I may add...that overall I love the bikes. Seriously considering a new 12R for myself. If I thought Eriks ideas & all of the bikes were piles, do you think I would even be considering the bike? |
Jvv
| Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 11:33 pm: |
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Hi you guys/gals.........I'm here at the salt .....most of the players are here and getting set up.......a slight rain and super cold winds early this am, but now all is "well"............the forcast is looking perfect! here's a link of a few photos from today......I have a 26bps hook up in the hotel and hav'n a hard time getting the photos up....... http://www.fototime.com/inv/9DB8A5C6CB7AF0A ride safe............Jack
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Hans
| Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 02:10 am: |
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Hi Jack, Thanks for the early pictures: Great way to keep us, being there only in our imagination, up to date. Hans |
Orngm2
| Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 02:40 am: |
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hey guys, has anyone tried to use the calipers from another motorcycle to give an m2 dual disc brakes? thanx
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Court
| Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 05:51 am: |
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>>>has anyone tried to use the calipers from another motorcycle to give an m2 dual disc brakes? Why? I weigh in at a svelt 215# and, with two fingers, can ride the bike on the front wheel? I suppose if you were on a short tight track and just wanted to add some cooling or distribute the load, but if you are looking for "more" braking buy an F-18 with triple arrestor chutes.
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Blackcatracing
| Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 06:13 am: |
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"Like never being too thin, or too rich", there is nothing like more front brake
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Thunderbolt_dad
| Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 07:56 am: |
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Svelt?.....at 215?......sheesh...... |
Ferris
| Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 08:49 am: |
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thanx for the pix, Jack. is that ol' man Snail in pic #3? svelte: slender or graceful in figure or outline; slim. yep, that'd be Court. FB
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Road_thing
| Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 09:31 am: |
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And what are those two guys doing in picture #2??? r-t |
Hootowl
| Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 10:05 am: |
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Well RT, it would appear that one is driving a stake, and the other is driving a stake...er.. I mean, one is hammering a shaft into a hole and the other is hammering a shaft into a hole...Damn! Nevermind. |
Court
| Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 10:05 am: |
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>>>there is nothing like more front brake A reminder of the Ducati 916ish treatment I gave my KLR650. I am on the cusp of my next "what would yoiu build if...."adventure.
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Road_thing
| Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 11:15 am: |
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>> I am on the cusp of my next "what would yoiu build if...."adventure. Give us a hint, Court. Is it motorized or does it stand in one place and hold wires off the ground? r-t |
Shazam
| Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 12:25 pm: |
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hahahahahahaahahaha LMAO |
Court
| Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 12:40 pm: |
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Thing: I want....HELL I DEMAND....a picture of you at Bonneville, in full kit with cowboy boots!
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Sleez
| Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 06:13 pm: |
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hey all, long time since i've posted. recently got off the phone with justin at nallin, my 1250 kit, with stage 2 thunderstorm heads and 536 cams are on their way to me!! i got my 2000 crank assy a few weeks ago. the "mistress" is hanging from the rafters of my dad's garage, nothing but frame and swingarm. both cylinders have many score marks at the front and rear, with corresponding marks on both piston skirts, i'll get some pics soon. doesn't seem to have any other probs, but i'll still swap in the new crank etc. i doubt she will be among the living before oktoberfast, but my boss may let me borrow his 'busa, let ya' know ferris. later all. drag those ears S.Lee(soontoride)Z. work ph 1-800-358-8280 x119 |
Freyke
| Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 06:39 pm: |
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I still have power in Virginia Beach.... AMAZING!... most other folks don't Lights are flickering and wind is 75MPH... kk//kef |
Blackcatracing
| Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 07:36 pm: |
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Freyke: Hang tough. The worst has gone through. Be safe |
Kevyn
| Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 09:38 pm: |
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...front brakes on the M2; hello! it's not a coal train headin' down the gap, it's a sport bike with phenomenal braking capabilities! Having been aboard an M2 for thousands of mile, you'd be best served with springs, valve emulators and fresh oils from the builders of choice. PM makes a dandy dual caliper and cryo-iron disc set up if you really need to go that route... |
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