| Author | Message | ||
     Ara |
Mike, In many airliners your idea would seal the front kitchen that serves the first class section away from the area it was designed to serve. In many airliners the rear door is for emergency use only and is neither designed nor safe for routine passenger use and/or is incompatible with terminal design. There may be a few aircraft designs that are open to options, but NONE can be retrofitted with a separate cockpit door. There simply isn't room, the cockpit walls are lined with electrics and electronics, the airframe isn't designed to accommodate a hole anywhere near the size of a door, and the cost (both in terms of the outright expense of the retrofit and lost profitibility) puts the notion out of the question. Reep and Joplin are correct. With a properly trained and armed flight crew, armored doors between the cockpit and the passenger compartment, adequate screening of passengers and luggage, and an adequate air marshall force the safety and security of airliners will be greatly enhanced. The problem now is that they've been slow to train the pilots, they've cut back on the planned size of the air marshall force, and there is a monsterous security hole to plug when it comes to cargo. | ||
| Mikej |
Well, it was a thought anyway. And the place they do need to work on as you say is in cargo handling. A few years ago they did the expose on the baggage handler's stealing stuff out of luggage, and now with us being "required" to leave our luggage unlocked I just ship anything of value insured if it's small enough to fit in a pocket or lunchbox. Remember the good old days when you could get on an airliner with a .32 in your front pocket and the only thing they checked was to make sure you had the safety on. Them days be long gone now. Can't even carry basic tools in your carry-on now, let alone a fingernail clipper. "Lookout! He's got a nosehair trimmer!" Security, a dangerous game often staffed by fools. | ||
| Mikej |
Common sense is no longer common. | ||
| Ara |
Machiavelli said, "Where weapons are not permitted, there it is well to be armed." He was correct of course, but now it's impossible - at least on airliners. Had the passengers and crew of the 9/11 airliners been armed, our history since that day would have been much, much different and thousands of families would still be whole. | ||
| Mikej |
Didn't the art of Martial Arts come about from the disarming of peasants and farmers? | ||
| Jim_m |
some martial arts did, others came about from monks who could or would not carry weapons. Ninjitsu is said to be developed from peasants who were disarmed by the ruling class at the time (IIRC) | ||
| Kevyn |
Hmmm? I've seen plenty of cargo carriers with a hydraulic side loading door and/or ramp for use with K-loaders. Most aircraft are designed with removable floor panels and cannon plugs to attach overhead consoles and configure the cabin for extra or fewer seats as required and even remove seats for complete cargo loading. Easy enough to have crew entry at the usual cabin doors and load passengers through a cargo door with a 'secure' panel between passengers and the front end crew;. Bringing the aircraft in to attach to the terminal isn't necessary. Load passengers on a transport and take them to the plane on the field... | ||
| Captpete |
I think y'all are making it too complicated. A little nitrous oxide in the ventilation system would do the trick. A terrorist sounding like Donald Duck while a few hundred hundred passengers roll in the isles laughing would be about as far as it got.  | ||
| Ara |
Unfortunately, that would require separate cabin air systems for the flight deck and the passenger compartment. No kidding guys, these things are a study in engineering compromises. You change one thing and 50 other things have to change to accommodate it. Tanks, submarines, fighter and bomber aircraft, and even to a lesser extent motorcycles are all like that. edited by ara on August 14, 2003 | ||
| Kevyn |
Ara, there are already separate systems in place I believe...and the pilots already have o2 masks on 02 bottles...I believe. The Russians had a real bad time with the gas thing. If you load from an existing cargo door, interior mods are simply constructing a security barrier...not that tuff. | ||
| Al_lighton |
This site on the subject of airline security is amusing: http://www.seanbaby.com/news/terrorism.htm | ||
| Buellish |
BUELL | ||
| Tripper |
where, where??? | ||
| Tripper |
Reepycheep asked: "What did JMartz find Tripper? When I had mine apart, I found that the shift drum had some raised lips along the slot edges that needed a little cleaning up. Nothing major, but it did slightly groove the inside of those (bronze?) shifting forks. " BINGO! I was complaining about an intermittent popping out of 3rd gear so we disassembled it to inspect the dogs. The drum would not release one of the forks. When we got it apart it displayed the problem you describe. A few seconds with the grinder and problem solved. Can't wait to get it all back together, but right now I'm doing some detailing and maintenence so it don't look like such a 'Road Dog'. Sort of 30,000 mile facelift. | ||
| Reepicheep |
ATTENTION Court in NYC! Whatever you plugged in, unplug it! Whatever you dug up with that backhoe, Bury it again! Who was supposed to be watching Court this week? The whole power grid is down... edited by reepicheep on August 14, 2003 | ||
| Mikej |
From jsonline.com
Details sketchy at this point, rumors running rampant. | ||
| Mikej |
And from another site:
Just a heads up. ===== more:
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| Bomber |
it weren't court . . .. . .it was the dog (who's still cranky about being glued to the saab) | ||
| Doncasto |
Is the Buell Zone Manager structure still intact? I got the impression during my trip to the dealership today that the HD district manager is now in charge of Buells here. The discussion centered around the dealership's plans to have demo bikes at the upcoming Sportbike Fest (?) in Copper Mountain, Colorado. It seems the mother ship reserved space, but has not followed up with anything but tables and chairs. Could it be that the HD district poobah does not like Buells (I AM SHOCKED! ASTOUNDED! DEVASTATED!), and was unwilling/unable to provide any sort of Buell corporate presence. Too bad, it may be yet another case of Juneau Street missing the boat in Rocky Mountain district. edited by doncasto on August 14, 2003 | ||
| S2pengy |
After installing crew rest areas in the forward L/H door area and also above the passenger cabin believe me anything is possible if the money is there... One of the problems is the money is not there..... ALPA has lobbied and gotten permission for Pilots when trained and certified to carry arms... Believe me some already are.... Israel's Airline locks the armed flight crew in the cockpit and they can not get out until it is unlocked at the distention by ground personnal...... | ||
| Court |
>>>Whatever you plugged in, unplug it! Whatever you dug up with that backhoe, Bury it again! I was sitting in the weekly staff meeting, with 45 others, at NYC's Charles Poletti Power Plant at the moment. The sound of the steam release valves (ya know that little valve on the side of your hot water heater?...think of 4 turbines being fed with 2,000psi steam in 24" diameter pipes with hundreds of big ones blowing at one time as the steam suddenly has no place to go) left a permanent impression. My quote, at the moment, will be on the wall today...."Gentlemen, in the whole supply and demand equation, the advantage just shifted heavily in our favor". All in all a great day to be building a 500MW power plant in NYC. Court (off course my truck happened to have the low fuel light on...lots of stories to tell.) | ||
| Xgecko |
XB Competition???discounting the difference in exhaust note Yamaha seems to have done their homework. The naked looks a lot better than anything Honda's thought up recently. | ||
| Glitch |
Looks like a HondaBanditFazerSV1000 I4... Is it just me, or are the Japanese made bikes starting to look like each other. I guess they feel they've got the look of a cruiser down pat, now they've got nothing to copy but each other... | ||
| Xgecko |
the half faired one looks very UJM but the naked looks like a Brutale (minus the SSS) I'd consider a Naked one...especially given my location | ||
| Ccryder |
UJM, ah yes the 60's and 70's. Anyway, it looks like whoever came up with that integrated round instrument cluster sold to the Kawa people, also sold the idea to Yam. Not bad looking and very informative. Time2Work Neil S. | ||
| Eeeeek |
 The wife's new car. This thing is more fun than a GoKart! Vik | ||
| Blackcatracing |
Vik: Congrats on the marriage. Looks like the wife enjoys HP and Handling also. Hows the racing coming Be Safe NASCAR Tom | ||
| Mikej |
Vik, Does that have the supercharger option? I test drove one last year and the salesman kept saying to go faster around the corners and don't use the brakes. Neat cars. | ||
| Eeeeek |
Thanks, Tom. I'll be back racing in Sept or Oct. I had to take a few months off to build back up funds. Mikej, Yep, that little hood scoop feeds the Intercooler that feeds the Supercharger  Great little car. We turned in her leased Corola and picked that up for about the same monthly ('cept this ain't leased). | ||
| Sexb9ygirl |
Just bought a 03 XB9S and really want to have the tank custom painted with graphics. I have been told that it can not be done since the tank is plastic. I could have a decal made and clear coated on... but no paint. Any suggestions? Has anybody had this done? |
