| Author | Message | ||
     Usroute66 |
So Cal Riders...see the Storm Fronts Section (Southern California) for the lastest upcoming SCAB meeting next Thursday. | ||
| Iamike |
Made it back from my trip to Pennsylvania last night. Got in at 1:30 after an 1,100mi. ride from Stroudsberg. Didn't do the requirements for an Iron Butt award but I don't mind, I know I did it. We rode about 3,400mi. in 6 days of riding and the '99 S3 performed just fine. Even after hitting 35,000mi. it only used 1/2 qt of oil on the trip. Got to meet Steve Ford, the Stroudsberg Buell salesman. He didn't look quite right all covered in paint from the new dyno booth he was building. He has a real nice White Lightning. The weather was ideal and I was really amazed at how polite most of the drivers were even in the cities (I wish Iowa drivers would learn what a turn signal was). Didn't run into one other Bueller out there, what a shame. | ||
| Court |
TEAM ELVES REGISTRATION HAS BEGUN edited by court on August 03, 2003 | ||
| Pat_bigga |
i am looking for a way to test the vacuum at which the voes closes, and subsequently retards timing? anyone with a proven method? | ||
| Iamike |
It was kind of cool to go through this town in New York. My mother had told me that we had Huguenots in our family tree.  | ||
| S2pengy |
Pat A vaccum gauge and an ohm meter... T off the gauge with one hose to the voes switch, the other end you are going to suck on... The ohm meter goes to ground and the voes wire connector you have disconnected from the harness... As you suck on the hose watch the meter for the point when the resistance goes to infinite at that point you have found the point the voes actives... Instead of a vaccum gauge a mityvac works even better...Instead of an ohm meter you can use anything that checks a complete circuit using a bulb, battery and 2 leads.... Also if you just want to check to see if the voes is working disconnect the voes hose when timing the bike the timing mark will move.... | ||
| Bluzm2 |
Mike, Glad to hear you're back in one piece. We have to get together for lunch one of these days. Just pick a place somewhere between us and go for it! (It's my turn to buy....) 1100 miles in one day! Wow! Too bad you didn't document it for the Butt patch.... I miss our "annual" ride this year. I'm kind of itching to ride somewhere for a couple of days. 35,000 on the S3 and I'll bet it still clatters less than my M2 with 21,000. Just shows what good maintenance does. The new S2 on the other hand with 28,000 is amazingly quiet. Keep in touch! Brad | ||
| Iamike |
Brad, Yeah, we intended to do it on the way out. Documented start, mileage, etc. Then we got caught in a torrential downpour on the Indiana Turnpike. It was raining so hard that cars were pulling over but in our insanity we kept on. Finally, even with my rain gear I was soaked so we pulled off and went to find shelter under the soffit of a business. We parked the bikes and just as we got under cover, a bolt of lightning hit about 100' from us. Between the flash, thunder and the noise of the line fuse blowing it was quite unnerving that we were standing a few feet away just a minute before. Every time we tried to get going again we would ride back into the storm so we only made about 650mi. that day. On the way home we didn't even plan on it but after riding 75-80 all the way across PA, OH & IN we realized we could do it. But then Chicago's traffic, some construction and another thunderstorm slowed us down a bit. One thing that surprised me was that other than my wrists It didn't hurt any more after 1,000 than it did in the first 100. On the maintenance end, I must have not been too careful with the inspection cover gasket when I checked my primary chain because when I dumped the oil it was milky white. That was the first time I'd ever seen that. Hey, I'm going up to Park Rapids to pick up my daughter this week. If I leave Monday night want me to give you a call? We can get together then. | ||
| S2pengy |
Pat I have to correct a statement I made on testing the voes switch... The meter shows infinite resistance when there is no vaccum and shows no resistance when it has enough vaccum applied.. My S2 manual states 3.5-4.5 iches of mercury to operate the switch... It is adjustable... | ||
| Pat_bigga |
i have adjusted the voes...i installed a complete pro-series setup and dialed in some detonation. i did everythng i could to the carb and timing and i could not dial it out. i pulled off the rear head to see if i had excessive carbon on the piston. there was a good amount so i cleaned it off and then ran some combustion chamber cleaner through the front cylinder. i still pinged so i adjusted the voes to trick the bike into thinking there was ?more? load than there actually was (turned the screw clockwise) it helped a good amount, but i want to quantify exactly what i did so i know the circumstances of my detonation. -pat | ||
| Bluzm2 |
Mike, Your lightning deal kind of sounded like our trip across Nebraska! Yikes! You bet, give me a call on your way through. What time you figuring? Ping me off line. Brad | ||
| Steveford |
To Iowa Mike, I was actually painting myself white to match the Lightning. Any paint that got on the Dyno Room was just overspray! | ||
| Mikeyp |
Yo Blake, is there anywhere on the site that has 1998 paint codes? I did a basic search, but i ran out of time. (Gotta take the kids over to Grandma's.) I'm repainting the tailsection on my S1W. I can't remember were i saw the paint codes, but i think it might have been in B2Win. I think the color was Carbon Black. Any info you can give me would be cool. I owe you a beer.. | ||
| Mikej |
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/3842/3595.html?1059213544 | ||
| Dynarider |
Mikey, I think Sporttwin has the codes. | ||
| Blasterd |
Started my bike up today and a big puff of smoke came out of the intake, has anyone ever had this happen? I also changed the oil yesterday and put the 2 quarts in like the service manual said but it barely registers past the 1st mark on the dipstick. I checked it after it was warm. I am more concerned about the smoke from the intake though. Ken | ||
| Reepicheep |
If it was just a backfire, no big deal. They don't necessarily have to be loud, just kind of a chuffing puff... puts out a nice big cloud of smoke on a morning right on the edge of being foggy, especailly if it is dark and the cloud rolls past the headlight. | ||
| Blasterd |
Reep, when it backfired, it puffed. So no biggie? It backfires quite often (actually alot, after starting and accel & decel) but this is the 1st time I saw smoke. Thanks, Ken | ||
| Blasterd |
Hey Reep, What about the oil? should I add more? Ken | ||
| Hans |
"it barely registers past the 1st mark on the dipstick"  That`s just right. | ||
| Reepicheep |
Wow! Got a test ride on a race kitted XB9s today, first time on any of the XB's. What fun! I can't believe how this thing can transition from full lean to full lean, and how the thing is as stable as a rock no matter what I do to it. I was hoping the handling transitions and corner carving feel of the XB's would be near what I get out of an Honda XR-200 dirt bike... and if anything, that XB felt lighter and easier. I was astounded. And the sound of that race kit was awsome! I missed the low end torque arm wrench of my M2... that "I am being shot from a great big rubber band" feeling. But really enjoyed the leap from about 4000 Rpm up. Those XB12's are going to be a feriocious little package. They had a couple 9's in stock. I know I said I would never part with the Cyclone, but the XB9s seems to suit me even better then the M2 does. If they gave me a race kitted XB9 for $8500 and $5000 trade in for a 2000 M2 with 15k miles, I would be sorely tempted to jump ship. I know thats a lot for a 2km2, but the 03 XB9s are going to be tough for them to move when the 04's are sitting beside them with new belts and double the warranty. One question... anybody try the short trip 2 up with the lightning? I realize it would not be particulary comfortable, but is it even possible? Just a 15 minute trip out for dinner type thing, not an all day tour thing. It would be rare, but I would like to keep the possibility open. | ||
| Reepicheep |
What Hans said. The "Above the bottom mark" would actually be a little overfull on mine, and I would expect to be wearing a little on my right leg after the next ride. The puff is a non-issue. Mine did it this morning. Quite a cloud, mostly steam as it was right on the edge of fogging anyway, and it rolled across the headlight. Every now and then I see it when I am trying to start or ramp down the idle too quickly, something just lines up right and it gives a big puff out my forcewinder. Rejetting makes a huge improvement on the coughing and backfiring, if you have not done that yet do it. edited by reepicheep on August 04, 2003 | ||
| Rick_a |
Pat, did you re-jet the carb along with the Pro Series components? That is an absolute must, if not. They run on the lean side stock and very lean with better breathing. | ||
| Fuscat |
Just wondering with the new 12's and the already popular 9's over the last year or so, any of you other tubers feeling a little left out in the cold? Looking at the Buell website seems like there is not much of anything directed to the tubers anymore. Very little at best. I like to think I will NEVER get rid of my S1, but I am starting to wonder how long it is gonna be before it is considered a complete dinosaur in the cycle world. Or is it all ready?  Seems to be alot of talk of jumping ship to the XB. Not that that is a bad thing. I just don't want to see the old tube frame's being looked down upon as inferior machines. I wonder how long it will be when people ask me what kind of bike I'm riding and I say "Buell" and they start telling me "no its not doesn't look like any of the buells I have ever seen.." I think that is when a sadness will set in. I dunno I am just thinking out loud. Pondering things. I was in my garage last night and as I ran my hand along her sleek black bodywork I started to get the feeling like I was petting and endangered species. A dying breed. How long will it be before extinction? | ||
| Mikej |
As long as it runs it lives. Extinction only comes to those who stop breathing. Ride. | ||
| Cowboy |
Fuscat...... Dont worry....As long as people like -cycle rama and the Nallins are around we will still be looked up to.. Just ride and enjoy | ||
| Kevyn |
Hang tough, every time I look at my S2, I have deeper respect for the men who dared and dreamed and created a wonderful machine. Ya, the S1's will go the way of the dinosaurs and '57 Chevy's... | ||
| Bomber |
Cat I've not ridden a 12, and, asmuch as I like the 9 series, neither competes, head to head, with my M2 . . . . don't get me wrong, I'd love a Black 12, but it would never replace the Ma Deuce . . .. . it's the best motorcyule ever made, and Court can prove it . . . .. lemme see, track day sled, BattleTrax mount (only Trophie I ever one, 'sides my wife {grin}), beast of burden, corss country tourer . . . the XBs, like most bikes today, are really wonderful at their appointed tasks . . . .they can be, because they are so narrowly focused . . . . . there are few, if any Renaissance Bikes out there today, and the tubers just may be the best example of such we have to point to . .. . . . After hangin out with some classic bikers, I think there are more Bonnevilles on the road today than there were when they were new . . . . we ain't going to disappear, and sumpin tells me we'll always be welcome in East Troy, no matter what manner of cool new stuff they come up with | ||
| Rocketman |
Hey Derek I had a similar thought last week. My S1W has sat in a friends motorcycle shop window for nearly a year up on a stand. Last week we took her down to at last start the rebuild of the destroyed motor. It's the first time I've sat on the big Buell in ages and despite it feeling very good and familiar I wondered how much longer I could live with her. As much as I think the big Buell is probably still the greatest hooligan bike ever built and she suits my tastes perfectly her high maintenance has become a thorn in my side. That thorn pricks all the much harder because when I bought my immaculate T140D US Bonnie back in 1987 I had nothing but grief from her for 3 years. I traded her in and bought my first Harley, a 73 Sporty which I spent a fortune on over a period of years and to be truthful somewhat a waste of time and money as she never was that reliable. She was stolen which was a blessing really but I screwed up again by buying an 86 Evo Sporty with the 4 speed tranny. Yep not that I knew it when I bought it but the tranny did smash its way out of the cases like most of them did. She too despite being a pretty hot Sporty was an unreliable beast but she brought me good fortune by achieving a good trade in price against my first S1W - which blew up after 4 weeks of ownership. So here I am today with a big Buell I've owned for nearly 5 years and yet I've ridden her for about half of that time because of reliability issues. The repairs she's having to undergo now are going to set me back in excess of £2000 despite the fact that I've wrestled a pair of new cases out of the dealer responsible for her failure and as such that's a lot of money I'm sick of spending on her. It's not even the fact that she might well prove to be engine reliable once she's repaired it's all the little things that go wrong that once upon a time I didn't mind so much living with but even now just thinking ahead I don't think I could stand another failure towards any kind of unreliability as I'm sick to my back teeth of not having a fucking bike to ride. It seems these Buell's I've owned have become the final straw of unreliability in the HD chain. In all honesty I'd be sort of ok with things in my head if I thought I'd treat her a little hard but the real story is I haven't. She's had a lot of time and effort put into her but to point out for just one single example when I look at how many race kit headers and mufflers she's had supplied free of charge from Buell in days gone by, and yet the last one that I put on from them lasted less than a thousand miles before it cracked, and I know I'm never going to get another one in the future from Buell f.o.c then I think bollocks to it because one day she will need another and at my expense and so go all the other parts that are consistent failures as they are always going to want replacement too and thus money spent. Maybe this applies just to my big Buell but I'm not out of the water yet and somehow I doubt I ever will be. Maybe I got a Monday morning or Friday afternoon one LOL. I don't know but there does seem to come a time when you just have to chuck in the towel and maybe when she comes back after lightening my cash flow somewhat it might be time for me to move on. The XB's don't do it for me at all. Try as I might I don't see them as aggressive nor classic looking as the tuber S1's and their short and stubby profile is perhaps a little to small for my tastes. I like the feel of the big Buell or a big bike. MV don't seem to have put their Brutale on the market yet and even if they did I doubt I'd feel good about parting with £11000 for a motorcycle. Last time I ventured into the new motorcycle market I spent £8000 and that turned out to be a lot more over the next five years and for half of that time it's sat idle. Maybe in the future I'll settle for a Gixer fighter for very little money and still a lot of fun and the ability to break 150 effortless will bring a smile to my face. The dinosaurs have had their day and maybe I have too! Rocket  edited by rocketman on August 04, 2003 | ||
| Sarodude |
The September 2003 Cycle World is out with Steve Anderson's tech writeup on the XB12s. Nice article - especially when compared with Motorcyclist's "Hey, Buell has a new bike we'll tell you about later" joke. The article has some not yet discussed details on the exhaust valve, some news on the belt supplier change, a nice to know blurb on the rev limiter, and extremely positive things to say about reliability. There are other nuggets in there, but go read & enjoy. Don Canet wrote about the ride too but I haven't read that one yet. -Saro |
