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Ron
Posted on Wednesday, July 02, 2003 - 12:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks to those of you who responded. Sounds like I have a really good excuse to just keep my S-3T.
The Millennium Tech jugs ARE really nice. The Penske shock is Ditto. I love the adjustability for any kind of riding.
I guess my only real complaint since getting the glitches in this bike worked out is the fact the resale is so darned poor. I have a 98 Road King (Road Toad) and while it's no where near the fun to ride - I can get most of my investment out of it. Perhaps I should just sell that thing?
PS: the Goose is rally super looking but that engine not exactly rocket science either. Buell needs to beat that if they are going to come up with something modern as today WITH a decent resale potential.
Thanks all -
Ron
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Road_thing
Posted on Wednesday, July 02, 2003 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, actually, what I would have said is, "That sh*t won't float!"

But that's just me...

r-t
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Dwike
Posted on Wednesday, July 02, 2003 - 12:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

On a 98 S1 is the twin tail a lot larger than the standard tail or is it just longer? I didn't realize there was a difference at first (yes I'm a newbie), and it turns out the bike I am buying has the twin. I don't guess there is any way to make the twin tail look nice and short like the standard tail like with a different seat or something is there? Anybody want to trade, (silver)? Danny
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Josh_
Posted on Wednesday, July 02, 2003 - 12:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Danny, the Twin seat and tail are several inches (5?6? I didn't measure mine) longer than the solo. The kit includes a frame-extention bracket to support the longer tail.

Solo and twin tails are for sale here and eBay all the time.
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Snowdave
Posted on Wednesday, July 02, 2003 - 01:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Get this....My wife bought me a new British Mag call Two Wheels Only (T.W.O.) and in the back where they give a quick review to hundreds of bikes, their comment about the Yamaha Bulldog, "It's no Buell". They weren't even being sarcastic. No if only we could get the long needed injection of horsepower.......
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S320002
Posted on Wednesday, July 02, 2003 - 04:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Blake,
"Did you miss the part where I said "You are not wrong"?"

Nope. Didn't miss the other parts either.
See yuh.

Greg
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Bigj
Posted on Wednesday, July 02, 2003 - 04:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am trying to post anonymously on here. Can someone explain how to do it?
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Rocketman
Posted on Wednesday, July 02, 2003 - 04:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Big J why don't you ask anonymous?



Rocket
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Mikeyp
Posted on Wednesday, July 02, 2003 - 08:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You really like to break balls, don't you BigJ??:)
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Laps
Posted on Wednesday, July 02, 2003 - 08:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I recently had the belt on my X1 strip multiple teeth (at least 20-30 consecutively and a few scattered elsewhere on the belt). I was riding the interstate at 80 mph when it started making noises and then became unrideable. When I checked the tension on the belt, after it stripped, it was extremely loose. Anyone else encounter stripped belts due to a too loose, rather than too tight, situation? Also I've had an aftermarket rear sprocket on the bike for nearly 3 years, how smooth should the sprocket tooth area be? The chrome is still intact but the surface seems rough to my eye. The belt had 8500 miles on it when it stripped (I don't do wheelies, nor drag race, but I do ride hard). The belts on my 87 FXSTC (over 40,000 miles) and 97 FLHTC (28,000 miles) have never been replaced.
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2003 - 12:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

BigJ,
To post as "Anonymous" a user needs a valid reason for concealing his/her identity similar to those of some of the media's credible sources of information who also wish to remain anonymous. The option is available by checking the appropriate box below the add a message window.

Blake (checking his balls) ;)
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2003 - 12:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Laps,
If your belt was excessively loose that might overstress the teeth and cause them to strip. Or maybe you got stuck with a defective belt. Stripped teeth on a final drive belt is a rare occurence. You are lucky to have an X1, so that you can easily replace the belt without major effort. I dread having to replace the belt on my Cyclone where removal of the right side isolator is required to do so.
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Freewaystreak
Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2003 - 01:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just encountered my first Buell screwing. I had just taken my M-2 into the dealership to have a leak in the rocker box fixed. I then rode from El Paso to Durango, Colorado. The ride up was great the bike ran fantastic, got unbelieveable gas mileage at 80-90 miles an hour. I made it in about 8 hours. Stopped often to enjoy the sites, food, etc. I stayed at the Durango North KOA. People were very friendly. On day two I rode up to Silverton, and surrounding areas. Had a great time messing with a new Interceptor, he found that he couldn't shake my M-2. Then on day 3 when I was ready to do some really serious riding Murphy shows up. The front rocker box starts to leak again, which I could have ignored, but then it sounded like i had a exhaust leak and I was afraid I would burn a valve or something. Now normally I would try and tackle these problems myself but I broke my left wrist about 3 weeks ago so my ability to wrench is limited. But at least I was able to ride about 850 miles before disaster struck. My wife was a good sport and brought my truck up for the rescue. I will repeat this trip next year except I will make sure that I don't have a broken wrist. My doctor would have kittens if he knew I had ridden my bike, so mums the word.
Dean
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Bigj
Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2003 - 01:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Man, I useta post anonymous on here all the time. Now you gotta have a reason?
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Bigj
Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2003 - 01:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey, these are pretty cool!
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2003 - 02:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Freeway,
Bummer on the leak. Are they using the new metal based gaskets?

So you basically called it quits over an exhaust leak? Man, if I were in Colorado riding the Rockies, I'd scorch a valve over having to cut the trip short any day.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2003 - 07:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Freeway... I assume the rocker box that was leaking was the same one they worked on in the first place? It is not unusual for box number 2 to start going shortly after box number one goes. Mine were at 3500 (rear) and 6000 (front) or so miles.

Check your exhaust header nuts, make sure you did not loose one or break a stud, and make sure you have the updated front exhaust mount, it looks like a nice beefy Y hanging down. Pictures in the knowledge vault.

You also probably want to pick up a new primary chain tensioner and primary cover gaskets and throw it in with your next primary fluid change. They are cheap and easy to put in. The old tensioners can break a backplate. Throw in mobil 1 gear oil when you button it all back up and you will love the improved shifting.
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2003 - 08:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Seems like I remember reading in Battle2Win that Buell had done some fairly extensive testing where they ran the rear axle as far forward as possible in an effort to hurt the drive belt. They never broke any. Sounds to me like you may have had a bad belt. How subject are these belts to environmental degradation? UV, chemicals etc.
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Aaron
Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2003 - 09:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My first suspect would be the pulley.
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Ara
Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2003 - 09:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Any chance the rear axle is out of alignment, causing the teeth on the pulleys to exert more force on one side of the belt teeth than the other?
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Jeffh
Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2003 - 09:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I suspect it was Col. Mustard. In the Library. With the Candlestick.

Oh wait - wrong site.. ;)

Are you running WITH or WITHOUT a beltguard? You may have picked up some debris off the road. The slack belt is probably that way after the fact because of the missing teeth..
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2003 - 10:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jeff, you are SO wrong. It's ALWAYS Miss Scarlet.
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Laps
Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2003 - 10:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Aaron, why do you suspect the pulley?

The stripped belt is the same length as the new belt so it didn't stretch when it failed.

I'm still wondering about the rear sprocket and whether the roughness (in the casting) in the tooth area could have contributed.

I'm still running the belt guards, upper and lower. The alignment front to rear was right on, as checked per the service manual with a dial caliper.
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Al_lighton
Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2003 - 11:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There was a dude in FUELL a couple years ago that did a long ride and had some issues with his belt. He'd indicated he had an aftermarket pulley (Joker, I think). It got discussed here, maybe it's still in the vaults somewhere. Apparently, Harley has a proprietary surface hardening process for their pulleys that isn't used in the aftermarket pulleys. After the surface anodizing of the aftermarket pulleys (if they even do that) is gone, the pulley teeth profiles are supposedly rapidly worn into a shape that is hard on the belt, causing belt failure.

Or so I hear/remember it being said. I'd never heard of a premature belt failure with stock pulleys that didn't involve either mishandling of the belt prior to/during install (twisting) or some type of puncture from a foriegn object. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, i'm just saying i've not heard of it.

I run mine very loose with no ill effects that I notice, over 30K on it so far. I've been running the Buell billet pulley for 15K of that, but it's heavier than stock and is about to be replaced by a milled stocker that I just got back from the machinist.

Al
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Al_lighton
Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2003 - 11:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I did find this:
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/3842/7780.html?995085479

But I think the discussion on the Fuell article was before the board crash and associated loss of articles/posts.
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2003 - 12:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

To clarify... the loss of the old tech topics was not due to a board crash, but to the stupidity of yours truly. That combined with the old server admin who failed to maintain backups as contractually required caused us to lose a year's worth of tech discussions. It shall not happen again! Discus has never let us down as far as crashing or file corruption goes. I recommend it highly for anyone wanting a customizable discussion forum.
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Joplin
Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2003 - 12:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fellas,,,can y'all check this out for me? TIA,,,jm

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/3842/3587.html?1057247232
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Bigj
Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2003 - 12:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Blake: Wouldn't it have been better if you'da posted that anonymously?
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Buelliedan
Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2003 - 01:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Al
what are you going to do with the billet pulley? I am looking for one.

chevydan1@hotmail.com
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2003 - 02:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Big,
That'd be the true egoist's way wouldn't it. I guess maybe I'm trying to fool everyone into thinking I'm not one.
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