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Jim_M
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 01:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Charlotte, the show will be on again Sunday 4-6pm (est I assume) on the History Channel...
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Benm2
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 01:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Britten motor certainly seems like a nice fit; the company owners have some similar characteristics. Fitting the Britten to the 9R would be a sort of poetic justice. That's a bike that would be an "instant" classic.
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Whatever
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 01:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Grrr,

Have no cable, have three channels up here in the stix...

Can someone in Milwaukee tape it for me ??? I will take you out to lunch...

Thanks,
Charlotte
;)
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 01:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>>Can someone in Milwaukee tape it for me ??? I will take you out to lunch...

Threat or Promise ?
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Lake_Bueller
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 01:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court...I think it's both :D
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Whatever
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 02:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OK,

Lake, if you tape it for me I will continue to leave you alone !!! How do you like that ? :snicker:

Deal?
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José_Quiñones
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 02:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have it taped, If y'all want to come down to HD/Buell of Ft. Washington, MD this Saturday at 10 am for our DCBRAG meeting you can watch it with us!


Quote:

COOL IDEA....wonder who came up with that??




The people who hold the PATENT, maybe?
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Bomber
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 02:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Char . . .If I tape it to, will you leave me alone as well?

(sorry . . .couldn't resist . . . .. . grin)
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S320002
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 02:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mobil 1, another thing that Erik Buell and John Britten agreed on.

One essential element is often lacking in the understanding of Buell design philosophy. This is a concept called "the area under the curve". In this case there are two curves. First there is the power curve. While Buells' power curves are not nearly as high a many others they build quickly and remain flat over a large part of their range. This means there is a large area of usable power "under the curve".
Next there is what I will call "the real world performance" curve. This could be defined as performance at speeds up to 100 mph. Here again Buell concentrates the majority of it's performance in that area.
Concentrating performance under these two curves is what makes them so much fun on the street.

If you want the performance curve to be in the 100 to 150 mph range what you really need is a race bike and a race track.

Greg
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Jocklandjohn
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 02:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

.....and in the spirit of equality.......although I cant tape it, as I live in Scotland.......if I *could* tape it....would you leave me alone also.....?

John
http://www.john-macpherson-photography.com
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Blastin
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 02:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Char,
Three channels, count yourself as lucky. My parents lived with only one channel for a year. They could get a few snowy pictures on other channels when conditions where just right. On a really good night they could almost see the Wasau stations. Must be because your located closer to the big metropolis of Rhinelander. They have a WalMart, a Menards, a Trig's, and I think a relatively new Home Depot. Oh and don't forget K-Mart. Man are you lucky.
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Whatever
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 02:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Now wait a minute !!! I can't leave everyone alone, then I would only have myself to play with... :devil: OK, I will go back to my corner of the BBS... at least Newfie will play with me... well and Spidey (But, really, how do I get him to leave me alone :snicker: ?)
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Benm2
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 02:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

flat torque like this?
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Whatever
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 02:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Blastin,

Quit reminding me I left Madison, I have five more months of winter to deal with (if I am lucky) !!!
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Benm2
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 02:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is that a flat torque curve?

Ben
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Kevyn
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 03:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Aaron's done better I think...
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Peter
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 03:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

John,
I wish I had your eye for photography.
Those pictures are awesome. I really am impressed. Well done.
PPiA
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Jocklandjohn
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 03:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey Peter - thank you for that!!
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Lake_Bueller
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 03:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Charlotte:

You really need to stop leaving these openings for me...."I would only have myself to play with..."

Love ya babe:D
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 03:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

WHAT WORKS


How Harley Revved Online Sales

The company first had to strike a balance between dealers and brand managers.

By Bob Tedeschi, December 2002 Issue

In addition to all those motorcycles, Harley-Davidson (HDI) sells $500 million worth of parts and accessories to its fanatic followers. Ken Ostermann, Harley's manager of electronic commerce and communications, figured that the company could sell even more if it opened an online store.

The problem was that selling Harley jackets and saddlebags directly to consumers would have unleashed the fury of Harley's 650 dealers, who'd grown attached to the high-margin accessory business. Ostermann saw what had to be done.


"We wanted to encourage any customers shopping for Harley-Davidson accessories on the Web to visit our dealers. At the same time, we wanted our dealers to be able to handle the online channel without running out and getting a Ph.D. in Internet technology and website design. E-commerce isn't easy, and we knew it wouldn't help either of us just to dump the job on the dealers and then walk away.


So now, customers who want to buy accessories online go to Harley-Davidson.com. But before they can buy anything, they are prompted to select a participating Harley-Davidson dealer. When the customer places the order, it's transmitted to the selected dealer for fulfillment. This way the dealers remain the focal point of the customer's buying experience, and we make sure the Harley message is maintained in a consistent way.


Our technology, however, couldn't guarantee that our customers continued to have a good experience once they'd placed their orders. So we asked dealers to agree to a number of standards -- things like checking orders at least twice a day and shipping orders promptly. We used Blue Martini's (BLUE) e-commerce suite for our platform, and with some custom tools we designed, we monitor things like the time taken to process orders, so we can flag a problem before it gets out of hand.


Obviously, the whole project would have gone nowhere without buy-in from the dealers. So from the outset we consulted with our national dealer advisory council -- a group of a dozen veteran dealers -- and they helped us design the program. They suggested a number of things, like adding dealer-specific T-shirts and other items to the site, which have been a really popular feature. Now we get more than 1 million visitors a month, and our customer satisfaction scores, which started in the extremely satisfied range, have moved to the exceptional level."

(NOTE: Bold by Court}
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Whatever
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 03:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Lake,

That was on purpose. For you, if you tape the show I will take you out to dinner (no lie) OR leave you alone... your choice! ;)

Charlotte
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Jrh
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 04:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

John

What a gift you have,your photos of Scotland in particular,are hypnotic...calming.
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Prof_Stack
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 04:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey John, can you tell me how I can get my point-and-shoot camera to make pictures like that? :)

Awesome pix. Thanks!
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Rocketman
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 07:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you want the performance curve to be in the 100 to 150 mph range what you really need is a race bike and a race track.

In your opinion Greg, but not mine :)

Rocket
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S2pengy
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 08:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court
So what went wrong with the Buell dealers buy in????
Why can't Harley hold the same standards to the Buell/Harley Dealers?????
Is it because they coddle to the Dealers so they will continue to sell Buells....
The Dealers still don't stock parts that is for sure... (There are a FEW exceptions)
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Captpete
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 09:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"My parents lived with only one channel for a year."

Well... My parents lived with no channels for the first half of their lives.

(Weren't they the lucky ones?)
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Blastin
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 09:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well put Captain Pete!

I spent a summer almost completely disconnected from the boob tube. One of the best summers of my life. My mind worked better as well.

Of course nothing probably compares to being out in the middle of the ocean eh.
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S320002
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 09:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rocket,

I've spent several hundreds of miles in that range but, my most enjoyable miles have been spent in tighter, twister stuff at speeds below The Ton.

To each his own.

Greg
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Sandblast
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 09:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Could somebody direct me to a site or something that will teach me how to really read a dyno sheet- I understand the basics of it but I've heard people here really say a lot just based on one, and would like to learn.
Thanks-
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Mikej
Posted on Thursday, December 05, 2002 - 09:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sandblast,
Start with the section here in the knowledge vault on the dyno's. There's enough in there to get you started.

Think smooth, high, wide, and peaked where you want it.
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