| Author | Message | ||
     José_Quiñones |
i thought I already answered that question earlier:
Buells have a reputation for poor reliability, DESERVEDLY SO. Offering a Three or Four year, UNLIMITED MILEAGE axle to axle warranty and Factory Direct Customer Support would go a long way to get more people to "risk" getting a Buell... The other thing they need to stop doing is promoting their bikes as "BEST NEW TOY" To me and a lot of other people, a motorcycle is transportation, not a TOY.... 99S3T - 32k miles, UNSATISFIED...... | ||
| Henrik |
First I plan on taking Henrik apart at Pocono next season ... Well, if you're as fast as Sleeper you may  We have a good group of Trackies, it'd be fun having you out there as well. Henrik (satisfied in general, but concerned about reliability - despite decent wrenching skills) | ||
| Cwalk |
Court, “Buell, my gut sense tells me, is going to achieve things we, the current and former owners, have all hoped for in terms of quality.....make that CONSISTENT quality.” I hope Buell (HDI) is tuned into the same frequency as your gut. The company needs to move forward and they will have to LEARN FROM THEIR PAST MISTAKES in service, customer support and reliability. Buell builds Sport Bikes, not Sportsters. The Japanese have set the benchmark for the combination of performance and reliability in Sport Bikes. If HDI wants to continue in the Sport Bike market they should open the check book and let the Buell engineers design bikes that can compete on reliability, as well as they compete in performance. In twenty years of riding Jap bikes I never experienced a failure that left me stranded. Two years on the Buell, two rides home in the back of a truck. I’m not giving up on the bike yet, but I’m not taking it far from home either. And I will not buy another unless the reliability is there. I’m going back in the corner now. DW | ||
| Lsr_Bbs |
Court, I don't know how in the world that statement validates anything...but it's not important. I guarantee you that HDI/BMC is not looking over the stern...in fact, I'd guess they're operating under a similar decree as to what Lott and his wife were instructed. We, the disenchanted, are nothing more than annoying gnats to the company. Every vehicle mfgr. has a segment of the consumer market who dislikes them, for whatever reason, and they are mostly ignored...so shall we. Frankly, I'm amazed that some of the other disenchanted still bother posting their opinions. They aren't really productive in this forum; and as was so clearly expressed by some of the newer members, HDI/BMC still has a captive audience willing to buy the lifestyle. I was misguided in my purchase, I've reconciled that. For what my buell is, I like it. It may have taken me a while to work through the ill-will, but I have...hence why I don't post much anymore. Neil Garretson | ||
| Brianh |
>He didn't specified stock bike to stock bike, identical riders, open track, no rain, cool day, fresh tires, 93 oct Ammoco, etc etc. He said he hadn't seen a Buell he couldn't pass. ('Course he also didn't specify if the Buell was parked ). Blake simply listed some bikes Cecil hasn't seen. I'm thinkin' Cecil hasn't seen the RR either. I'm not going to get up on a soapbox and start beating my chest. Really I'm not. This little venture back to Badweb has certainly been more entertaining than the BORG as of late. But I simply have got to ask....... Do you have ANY comprehension of what a ZX12 is or what it's capable of? The RR1000??? Are you kidding me? I happen to think the RR is pretty cool, but are you crazy or something? With a pipe and Power Commander, a stock displacement ZX12 is capable of over 180rwhp and 100lbs of torque. You want to talk about an assault on the senses? That's what I base my previous statements on. And before I start hearing about what a big bike it is, it's got a 56" wheelbase and weighs 460lbs dry. Mine is probably 20lbs less. The machine has a real good pucker factor let me tell ya. There is a bench mark for performance in the market. I hope Buell doesn't continue to ignore it. Damn it, now my chest hurts. | ||
| Brianh |
>Well, if you're as fast as Sleeper you may We have a good group of Trackies, it'd be fun having you out there as well. Are you kidding? He's the "OLD MAN" I was referring to. | ||
| Grizzlyb |
Are you kidding? He's the "OLD MAN" I was referring to Ahhhh, but you probably didn't ride behind that young 'Hooligan' Henrik. I did...And I can prove it J Grizzly | ||
| Nevco1 |
Court... Spend the $10 on satisfying current customers as referrals are a very strong sales tool. All the Madison Avenue Hype will not draw new biz if the word on the street, in the motorcycle press and on websites like this is negative. Additionally, the happier the existing customer is with their Buell, two things happen...First, they are more likely to buy another; and second, the resale value will increase. Again, two strong selling tools. CAVEAT EMPTOR...is what the motorcycle world has and is saying about Buell. Same for HD, but at least they have the 'Lifestyle' and 'Bad to the Bone' image to sell. Another simple message Buell gives the world is our large cc twin is finally barely beating the small cc twins. Gee, I would have thought based on displacement we would be running with the big dogs. Bill | ||
| Dynarider |
Aaron, nope no reading comprehension issues that I am aware of. However with this statement you made earlier "My idea of elitist would be someone who goes around putting others down for the reasons they like a particular bike or how few miles they've put on them. Know anyone like that?" Its obvious to whom you are referring to. After all I am the only one who made a comment about the low mileage bike. Otherwise why would you even make a statement like that? | ||
| Aaron |
To which you responded: "And I havent knocked anyone for what they ride." "Just because I have a personal beef with Buell does not mean I "hate" anyone who rides one." Now study my statement carefully Dyna. See any accusation of knocking people for what they ride? See the word "hate" anywhere? You quoted me on it! Like I said, you have a reading comprehension problem. It's not the first time I've seen it in your posts. Bottom line, you put down people you don't even know for the reason they like a particular kind of bike (camaraderie), suggesting that's an elitist reason. My point is that putting others down because they don't meet your standards is how I define elitist. That's the very definition of a snob, wouldn't you say? | ||
| José_Quiñones |
Colin Edwards to MOTO GP, on an APRILIA????? | ||
| José_Quiñones |
 Vincents Are Coming Back | ||
| Dynarider |
Aaron, why didnt you stick with your original post? Here it is. "By Aaron on Thursday, October 10, 2002 - 08:31 pm: To which you responded: "And I havent knocked anyone for what they ride." "Just because I have a personal beef with Buell does not mean I "hate" anyone who rides one." Now study my statement carefully Dyna. See any accusation of knocking people for what they ride? See the word "hate" anywhere? You quoted me! Like I said, you have a reading comprehension problem. It's not the first time I've seen it in your posts. Bottom line, you took a cheap shot, putting down people for the reason they like Buells (camaraderie). Apparently it doesn't meet {your} standards. And then you had the gall to call them elitist! Get off your high horse, your arrogance is nauseating. Arrogance??? When the hell did I display that? Simply because I refuse to kiss Buells ass when it comes to building an inferior bike that you happen to believe so highly in? I have stated before that I believe your skills & motivation with Buells are beyond approach. I dont believe I have picked on or be littled you for your choice of bikes. How about extending a little bit of the same courtesy? I have never picked on someone who owned Buells based on camraderie. I posted quite a few months ago on Sacborg that the only damn good thing that came out of my Buell experience was the friends I have met thru that piece of shit bike. I have personally met & rode with the likes of Bomber, Roger, Lurch, Cecil, Vik, Chibeemer, etc , etc. Its funny a common theme when Buell people get together is we all blast the bikes for what piles of crap they are. Ask Jose how the deals gap dinner went this year, I was there. Everyone that told a story didnt comment on how great the ride was. They all how comments on what broke & when it broke. Yet for some reason you feel its taboo to bitch about em. I had some respect for you earlier, but then you had to degrade yourself with personal attacks aimed directly at me. Thats whats truly nauseating. | ||
| Rick_A |
If the shoe fits, eat it.  No reason to take things personal. Very soon after the S2's were on the street reliability concerns were voiced through many channels...even more so with the inception of the S1...and more so thereafter. Buell powerplants have never been known or touted as high performance or cutting edge, by any means. The bikes are rather portly for their size, relatively slow, and fairly unreliable...but when set up correctly are awesome handling machines. Now, a lot of people bash Buells for these qualities. Seems like a lot of ex owners gloat about how much better their current UJM is... For those people, I have two questions: Did you not know what you were buying? How the hell did you not know? I know I wouldn't get dirt for my Buell if I were to attempt to sell it. I bought it for about half of MSRP. It's now stripped down almost to race weight. Oh well, just more incentive to hold on to her. Some of the finest things I own are antiquated designs that I've had to upgrade to perfection. It's half the fun, for me. I'm not saying my bike will ever be perfect...but I'll always have fun trying. That alone is satisfying. | ||
| Anonymous |
Dangit! | ||
| Bigj |
Rick: I don't know where you get your info. Through what channels were the S-2 and S-1's reliability being discussed? There was no real outletting until probably late '98 at the earliest. I did a lot of reasearch on Buell before I bought. MO had some good things to say, as did some of the paper mags.Reliability was never discussed, 'cause no one had ridden them enough. I had plenty of good reports on the HD Evo motors, and the Buell was being touted as "low maintenance" by Buell. What more could I have done? | ||
| Anonymous |
Double Dangit! | ||
| Anonymous |
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| Rick_A |
A few cycle mags had long term tests and what not...a few noted things like oil pukin' at high rpm in their tests...and brackets, bodywork, and exhaust pieces breaking. I read of things of this nature as far back as '95. I have magazines saved as far back as 1993...those containing bikes of interest. Initial tests of these things seemed to always be very optimistic...later ones, not so. I don't have those here...but I know I've read it. The MO comment pages concerning the bikes had info from disgruntled owners in short time. Come on, it's a Harley based motor...how different would you expect it to be? It's low maintenance assuming it's properly assembled and maintained in a perfect state of tune. | ||
| Iamike |
I kind of laughed when I read about the Buell shaking off parts. I used to have a Honda 450 that shook off all kinds of parts. I had a friend with a Norton that broke off turn signals quite regularly. Oh, the memories. Maybe in 20 years I'll think back to my Buell and the rides it gave me. | ||
| M2me |
This site is starting to sound more like SacBorg...but that's not such a bad thing! Bigj, I admired Buells back in 94 or 95. Why didn't I buy one then? In the first place, I owned a 1992 Sportster at the time and was happy with it. In the second place, I had heard that Buells had quality problems! This was 7 or 8 years ago! So, last year I decided to take the plunge and traded my Sportster in on a brand new 2001 M2. I figured with the investment that Harley made, maybe the quality problems were under control. So far, I have been pretty satisified with it. I have had the stupid rocker box leaks (had one or two on my Sportster, too) but other than that it's been very reliable. So my point is this: I can understand where Rick_A is coming from. The Buell reliablity or quality control questions have been around for a long time. Brianh, No, I have no comprehension of what a ZX12 is capable of. 180 rwhp? At the end of the day I have to be honest with myself and accept the fact that I am not a skilled or talented enough rider to handle 180 rwhp. I commute to work and ride a few hundred miles on the weekend recreationally. I enjoy riding my M2. Could you smoke me on your ZX12? Yes, you could but I don't care. | ||
| Mikeyp |
Let me the first one's to remind you that Cecil\BrianH watched me pass him on my RC 51, while he was on his ZX9 on the track. It'll be intresting to suck a 180 hp ZX12 down my ram air box this spring. (you will NEVER live that down punk!) | ||
| Ncbueller |
Let me share with you why I ride a Buell. Today I was at Charlotte Motor Speedway for the fall Busch and WC qualifying sessions. WC Qualifying day is the "traditional" day that all of the bikes come out of the various garages and get ridden to the track by the drivers, owners, Teams Members, officials and etc. Well today, the following bikes were in the parking area set aside for the Teams: 45 Harleys in various stages of customizing 5 UJM Crotch Rockets 1 Gold Wind 1 BMW GS 1 996 Ducatti 1 Buell That is why I ride a Buell Different in every way !!! | ||
| Ncbueller |
Dyna: Get of Aaron's back | ||
| Dynarider |
Tom , thats a 2 way street you realize.I made a comment & he had to jump in with personal attacks. Never once have I attacked him for any reason, oh wait I did say in a posting on Sac that I thought his RR1000 was ugly. Maybe we should just start to regulate peoples opinions? Freedom of speech & expression obviously doesnt extend into the Hallowed halls of the Buell love nest. | ||
| Aaron |
"You guys that love Buell for the "experience" have bought into the Harley lifestyle where its not about the bikes at all. You can have the biggest pile around but so long as you can hang with your "cool" fellow Buell..aka..harley buddies than all of the bikes troubles will be forgiven. " "Arrogance??? When the hell did I display that? Simply because I refuse to kiss Buells ass when it comes to building an inferior bike that you happen to believe so highly in?" This is too easy. You don't even read your own posts! You're a piece of work. And I lost your respect? Damn, how will I live with myself?  | ||
| Dynarider |
Aaron, you know exactly what I am talking about regarding the Buell poser lifestyle. Its just like the Harley one only the Buells are always broken down. And I know where you are going with the first part. I do not "hang" with anyone because of what they ride. I met some good friends becuse of it, but quite a few have left the Buell flock of sheep & are actually enjoying riding other bikes. A few of us are in the early stages of setting up a non brand specific club for riders of all makes & models of bikes. I hate the whole BRAG & HOG elitist attitude that even appears to infect a number of people here in your pleasantville Buell community. And it appears as if you somehow feel that I am being arrogant simply because I continue to believe that Buells are inferior machines. Wake up, they are. In what area other than breakdowns & leaving riders stranded do Buells excel in? Winning races? Hell no. Reliability? Nope. Resale value? You have to be kidding. Ease of maintenance? Ok thats 1, but they have to be with as much work as is required to keep the damn things on the road. Get a grip Aaron & realize that Buells are not the end all & be all of motorcycles. Different in every sense? Sure, but then so is Sadomasochism. | ||
| Blake |
Congratulations! CCS will let you run all kinds of classes with the SV. Many are dominated by SV's. You should know that big bore kits do exist, and some classes allow upwards of 700cc's for liquid cooled twins. ![:]](http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/clipart/proud.gif) Not a chance you'd take me on my home track bub, and at this point I'd wager that would be true for any bike you'd care to ride. I'm really starting to get OHR down, even dragging sliders on the right handers. Need just a little more work on turns 5 and 7, then I can work on more aggressive braking. I tell ya, you won't be sorry about taking up track riding. It's a zen kinda spiritual experience once you hit the zone and become one with bike and track, similar I suspect to the feeling surfers get when they catch the perfect ride on the perfect wave. Tubular dude. But no way you'd pass me at OHR ya cocky sucker. And I'd be happy if the opportunity presents itself to teach you and your SV some respect with my big bad 100 RWHP Buell.  Did you get your racing gear yet? Check with DaveS, he has a bunch of racer gear on sale. MAW also has some good deals on boots in their clearance section. I just picked up a pair of Alpinestars S-MX Goretex boots for like 65% of list price. The old AGV Rage one piece suits are a great deal at half price if you are on a budget too. I'll see you on a track one of these days, count on it.  | ||
| Aaron |
"the Buell poser lifestyle" "the Buell flock of sheep" "I hate the whole BRAG & HOG elitist attitude that even appears to infect a number of people here in your pleasantville Buell community. " And like I said, my definition of "elitist" is someone who goes around putting down other people for not meeting his standards. I'll even go so far as to call it arrogant. Know anyone like that? "And it appears as if you somehow feel that I am being arrogant simply because I continue to believe that Buells are inferior machines." "Get a grip Aaron & realize that Buells are not the end all & be all of motorcycles." I couldn't care less what you think of Buell motorcycles. Never brought it up. Never tried to defend them. You really ought to try reading a post sometime | ||
| Dynarider |
I hope you work on bikes better than you defend your arguments. |
