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Mistaandypants
Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 10:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Quick question.

Was there a header change on Cyclones from 2000 to 2002? Will a muffler for a 2000 model fit 2002?

Sorry to hear about your bike Loki. I keep putting off getting an alarm. Maybe I need to think seriously about that again.

Thanks
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Loki
Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 11:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I normally have it chained up with 30' of heavy chain. Save for sunday afternoon I had just looped it through the wheel. I was wet,cold and tired. That I did not have the key for the padlock on me. So it was someone who took the time to actually check the chain and lock. My fault for not locking it, but I don't think that would have stopped this theft.

After talking to the Sheriff and doing the reports. He could not believe it was taken. Even he noticed that it was normally locked up and that the chain was very noticable. It was in a carport when this happened. I know they did not ride away with it though. The clutch cable was broken when I parked it. My chat with the man revealed that theft in my area has been increasing. So brave as to actually jack someones truck up and take all four wheels off it the other week.

My bag, my fault now I get to deal with the ins company. Bad part is I have to find recpts for all those extras to be covered.

Bry
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Torqd
Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 11:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Battletrax Anyone????

We are servin them up nice and fresh on August 17 in Peoria, Il... along with a nice side of peoria TT's to go with it...Food, Bikes, Music and much more....

Come on over and GET SOME!!!!

Peoria River front. Water Street. Will try to get the address ASAP.

Anybody that can help email me...
we will be setting up from 8-10am...
signup and riding from 11-5...

Hope to see you all there!
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 11:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Talking about e-Bay and in view of my responsibility, in perpetuity, to constantly remind you bunch of heathens how darned funny life is.......

I needed a vise.

Decided to try to be a bit parsimonious.

Went to e-Bay.

Found one.

Bid.

Won.

Cheap, high quality, heavy.


Buyer: "I'm in East Northport, Long Island, you could just pick it up"

Co-worker: "I live right there, I'll drop over and pick it up"

Easy?

Yeah, right.
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Co-worker: "I work with Courtney and I was asked to call about picking the vice up"

Seller: "No problem....yada, yada, yada"

THEN


Seller: "By the way, I have one unusual request"
Co-worker: "Sure, what's that?"

Seller: "Well my husband may be here when you arrive and you may have to fight him for the vice, BUT...."technically" it's mine".

HAPPY ENDING:


Co-worker arrives, gal runs out with heavily taped sealed box acting like she's known him forever. Plants a big kiss on him and hands him the box waving as he drives off down the street.

"I didn't make this world, I just live in it and report. I recall the days when I thought Hunter S. Thompson wrote fiction" - Court
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Mikej
Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 11:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Note to self: Don't mount the vise to the kitchen counter or it may be sold on e-bay.
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Jim_Sb
Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 11:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Quote: My bag, my fault...

Loki, it's not your fault. Not all neighborhoods require locked doors and chained bikes. Unfortunately, some do.

There simply is too much crime in America. From the Corporate Boardrooms as evidenced by the plethora of recent scandals, to our politicians in Washington D.C. to the streets where we live.

I have no sympathy for anyone who would commit a crime. We have jails for those folks and I hope we make good use of them.

Good luck with the Insurance Company.

Jim in Santa Barbara
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Loki
Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 11:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jim,

You are correct. When this happens you just question what could you have done to prevent it.

Then again locks and chains are to keep honest people honest.

If someone wants something bad enough there is not much that is gonna stop them. I wish I had seen them though. I coulda taken pot shots at them from my bedroom window. Although covering up the report of a Mini-14 would be real hard to do. I wonder if they actually know what they were taking or thought it was something else and more expensive?


Bry (Loki)
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Phillyblast
Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 12:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Loki,
Someone tried to steal my Blast last year - they stuck a screwdriver in the ignition to try to start it. At the time I didn't have a yard or garage, one of the reasons I had a Blast, not an M2 or such. Thought it would be less of a target. Oh well. I now have a yard and garage, and the S2 is in the yard behind a fence, or locked in the garage. I also have a large (and trained) mutt dog. great deterrent, and better than a gun because I can call her back, can't do that with a bullet.
hope you get your stuff back, and they catch the a-holes that took your bike. If not, hope the insurance co. sees fit to take care of you. Good luck.
david
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 12:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hank Conroy.....now there was a REAL man......

When I was growing up in Kansas, stealing gasoline from rural "farm tanks" was a sport.

It was about 2AM when Hank heard the commotion, went out the front door with the 1100 Remington Auto just in time to see the kids scrambling into the E-150 Ford Econoline.

He levels the shotgun....."git out".

Two folks leapt from the truck.

"Any more of you a**holes in there?" he shouted.

The two assured them that there were not.

KAPLOW !

Out the back door scurries the last one.

Case closed.

NOTE: Do not try this anywhere except the Midwest where you are allowed to chase an armed robber 3 blocks to "defend yourself" when you finally catch him. (Collins Park Liquour - 1971)
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Jim_Sb
Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 12:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Loki,

If I were witnessing a crime I hope I would have the sense to call trained Law Enforcement Officers and let them handle the situation (I say 'hope' because we all at times are enraged by this nonsense and then who knows what we'll do?). By taking a shot at them how would they retaliate? Do you have a Wife and kids at the house? Just things to consider.

Realizing that hindsight is 20/20 perhaps you can install a floodlight with a motion sensor in this area? They are quite inexpensive. I'm a light sleeper and a light coming on in the yard would wake me. Then hopefully if I saw something amiss I would call the Law.

I'm sorry for your loss but the good news is it was ~just~ a motorcycle. The important thing is you and your loved ones are fine.

Jim in Santa Barbara
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 12:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>>>is it was ~just~ a motorcycle.

98fdhjo45786yij Automated Internet Elf Transmission:

You have been FINED TWO (2) TEAM ELVES PATCHES and this notice serves the additonal purpose of being the only "cease and desist" warning you will receive prior to additional fines being assessed.
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Loki
Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 01:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No loved ones but the ferret in the apartment. Only the Buell sleeps outside.

The carport is about 100 yds and 2 1/2 flights of stairs away from me. Yet in the time it takes to lift a bike into a pick-up of van, I would not have gotten thru to the sheriffs dept. The stop or I will knee cap ya mentallity is there. Want to ask how my 9mm is loaded for living quarters defense? Try 1 rd snakeshot, 2 rds 147 subsonics, 2 rds +p repeat till mag is full. Besides I would have only wouned the vehicle. flat tires, missing windshield, radiator going poof tend to make people real nervous.
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 01:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>>The stop or I will knee cap ya mentallity is there

Resist. . . the pain, heartache and legal fees would rapidly eclipse the cost of your loss....in the word's of the Gnome guarding the ark.... "you chose wisely"
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Mikej
Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 01:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Loki, (and anyone else paying attention)
1. Never telegraph your intentions as it leads to presumptions of premeditation.
2. Always know the local laws regarding ownership and registration of various property.
3. Always weigh the consequences of your actions prior to acting.
4. Hang the thieves legally of course.
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X1glider
Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 01:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Loki, like Court said and lose the homemade rounds. Even if you are found to be in the right to defend yourself, the use of such ammo, designed with "intent to kill or maim" will get you in mucho grande trouble in civil court. The jury will not be sympathetic in the least. You may defend yourself by stopping an assailant but you may not kill or maim...if that makes any sense. Get yourself some Mag-Safe frangibles, I've seen what they can do to a Butterball turkey compared to ballnoses and ashtrays. Impressive. Perhaps bighairyralph could chime in on the legal points since he makes his living as a gunsmith.
If you must shoot something to protect your bike, get a paintbal gun with ammo that has the same luminescent dye that won't wash off for 2 weeks likes banks use in their money sacks. And if any gets on your bike, well, you'll be that much more visible at night!
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Xgecko
Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 01:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

speaking of patches what is the cost and who do I pay for one?
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Loki
Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 01:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Don't get me wrong here....

Shooting a living being is the last thing in my mind!

especially when it comes to defending a not so inanimate item like my Buell.

BUT to defend my own person from adverse actions in my own residence is another story. Every time I replant myself somewhere I learn the local establishments rules.

X1, none of those rounds are home made. They are all legally purchasable and possessable. The snakeshot is a standard CCI/Blazer round. Always carried it out in the woods in Arkansas, good for those pesky cottonmouths. The 147 sub-sonics were designed for submachine guns with sliencers. Very effective at short ranges. Most gun stores will stock these babys. The only questionable round is the +p. Yes I know the drill also, a close friend of mine shot and killed a person. Only after retreating to the farthest corner of his house and closing as many doors as possible betwix him and the now dead person.


Yet cooler heads will normally prevail and I hope I can be calm in the future. As to todays rantings, I am blowing off some steam, so let it go....
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X1glider
Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 02:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ahh, I see, didn't know what snakeshot was. I thought it was a home made load of buckshot. A friend of mine made some of those for my 45. Was fun to shoot but when I gave it more thought, I had just fired an illegal length shotgun.
Perhaps the theft is a blessing and you can get an XB with the insurance money. Anyone want to steal my X1?
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Rick_A
Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 02:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That sucks. Maybe the 100,000 candlepower of tactical light on the end of my bad 870 after hearing the action rack would be a good enough deterrent...I'm hoping...though I'm sure we all hope it never comes to that. Anyways, sorry about your loss Loki. Hope your insurance hooks you up.
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Littlebuggles
Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 02:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Receptionist here at work indicated her boyfriend just uses his baseball bat as his theft deterant, she says it has worked great so far. He lept over the chain link fence with bat in hand and the guys changed their minds.
- Defend what is yours- "life, liberty,and the pursiut of happiness" Sound familiar? I hope so - we have others who paved the road for us...

There are various means, use what suits you and try to keep it legal - Decide before-hand and things will go better, kinda like deciding to wear a lid - what will happen if you need it and it's not there?

Sorry about the loss of your bike Loki, also very sorry to hear of the loss of some of our fellow biker's. Ride safe, and park safe too.

-Mike
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Xgecko
Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 03:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I keep two things next to my bed (not that I have room anywhere else) both martial arts related,
one a short japanese spear (it will punch a whole in a car door) and the other my baby, my pride and joy, 29.5 inches of razor sharp steel. will I ever use them against a person? probably not but (I have killed a rat with the spear) when I hear a noise at night I grab that spear and a flashlight.
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Pammy
Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 03:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Loki---I can't help but think "if you hadn't have moved to Michigan..."

I got robbed once.It wasn't the loss of property that bothered me.It was the violation that I felt afterward and the thought that the S.O.B. could come back any time he wanted and do it again. I have kids...That feeling was unacceptable. I got a man-eating, snarling, unintimidatable(word?), beast the likes you never want to meet. I felt very safe(along with my S&W 357 magnum). It's a shame the things you have to do to feel secure.
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Pammy
Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 03:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

and I'm not talkin' about Wes....I already had him...
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 04:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"I got a man-eating, snarling, unintimidatable(word?), beast the likes you never want to meet."
Pammy! Really?! I found Wes to be a quite friendly and laid back sort of fellow. :D

Loki,
I wouldn't think you need actual receipts. You have plenty of pictures of your bike, many right here on BadWeB. Those pics along with list prices of the goods should suffice. You should walk away from this with a goodly sum.
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Loki
Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 04:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All,

Thanks bunches...The hardest part is the feeling of being violated. That someone thinks they deserve to have(take) what is not theirs. Former lawyery types were -Smith,Wesson,and Mossberg. Now its Smith,Wesson and Ruger. I think this weekend I am gonna go pull the trigger on some live ammo and work out my feelings.


Pammy,

I was thunkin that one over also, then again someone lifted an entire cooler of beer out the back of my truck whilst deployed down there. Put a sign on the truck "please return cooler when finished" that was no cheep beer either that stuff came all the way from cheese land.

Blake,

Going thru all my archives and the BWB to get everything together. So far I am up to over $2k in extras. If all comes out well I will be sitting pretty good. Might wait till Nov and see what the XB9S really looks like.
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Choptop
Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 04:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I dont think its "Life, Liberty and pursuit of Happiness."

I think its "Property". Dont know where to look this up.
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Choptop
Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 04:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My bad. THere is different well mis-quoted portion of US history that actually mentions "property".
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Leeaw
Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 04:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My weapon of choice is a phone. Why risk injuring yourself over something that is insured?

Besides, you get the best for your dollar from the insurance company.
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Choptop
Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 04:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ahhhh, here it is. I KNEW I wasnt HIGH when I thought it was "property". From the Library of Congress:

As a scholar well-versed in the ideas and ideals of the French and English Enlightenments, Jefferson found his greatest inspiration in the language and arguments of English philosopher John Locke, who had justified England's "Glorious Revolution" of 1688 on the basis of man's "natural rights." Locke's theory held that government was a contract between the governed and those governing, who derived their power solely from the consent of the governed and whose purpose it was to protect every man's inherent right to property, life and liberty. Jefferson's theory of "natural law" differed in that it substituted the inalienable right of "the pursuit of happiness" for "property," emphasizing that happiness is the product of civic virtue and public duty.
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Dueller
Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 04:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Choptop:

Actually it is "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness". The original framers drafted it as "life, liberty and property" but a heated debated ensued as a right of property ownership was too radical an idea for most 18th century visionaries (most of whom were landed gentry). So the compromise was the pursuit of happiness language.....ahhhh, what a country.

JCP, Esq.
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