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Marijane0569
| | Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 09:02 pm: | 
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If they can save that cylinder, yeah, it probly will be about 515. If not they will be getting more $$$ from me so that they can send me that big-bore kit. I just checked the usps website for delivery confirmation, and my cyl. made it to Co. today. The past few days have been total downers(for me anyways), all this nice bright sunshine and 80 degree weather; and me without my bike. Totally depressing!!!
Right now its raining so its not so bad.
"MJ" |
Marijane0569
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 10:02 am: |
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Ok, I heard back from NHRS yesterday.
BAD NEWS, They can't save the cyl. I sent them.
GOOD NEWS, They have a used cyl. in good cond. they will part w/ for $50. They have already started on the work and I'm sending them another $50 today.
It will not be a 515(nore like 505 or there abouts), but I'll get back on my bike sooner, hopefully by the end of the month.
"MJ" |
Ezblast
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 11:13 am: |
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Cool! Their customer service rocks!
GT - JBOTDS! EZ |
Marijane0569
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 03:35 pm: |
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NHRS kicks @$$!!!! |
Jprovo
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 04:21 pm: |
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Cool! Glad to hear that! |
Marijane0569
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 10:30 am: |
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Ok while waiting for parts,(USPS sure move slow don't they???) I have been thinkin, that seeing as how the stock exhaust has broken twice on me; that I really should replace it. I am considering the Jardine exhaust, My small bit of research on this forum has led me to believe the Jardine would be about the best for me. First it is Stainless, second Optional silencer, third ease of installation (from what ya'll have said).
Any comments?? please enlighten me. |
Naustin
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 11:01 am: |
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I'd ask if anyone has a jardine that has lasted for at least a year or 6,000+ miles with no problems. I would still classify the jardine as un-proven for reliability.
If I were you right now, I'd buy the V&H.
Nick |
Ezblast
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 11:27 am: |
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Actually the trick for both the Jardine and the discontinued WB is to use the stock front mounting hardware instead of the hardware they supply - which is identical to each other, because the stock unit better absorbs vibration - thus protecting that mounting point, adding a couple rubber washers to the rear mounting point probably wouldn't hurt either. I figure this is the real reason Scotts has had zero problems and when I switched out back to the stock version mounts - my problems disappeared also.
GT - JBOTDS! EZ |
Marijane0569
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 03:32 pm: |
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Ok what kind of problems does the jardine really have???
Thanks
"MJ" |
Ezblast
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 04:36 pm: |
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The front mount would crack - was what I heard - same problem as on the WB - both use metal mounting hardware, however, if you use the stock rubber stuff you'll avoid that problem. I've stated that in the KV Exhaust section.
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
(Message edited by ezblast on April 25, 2006) |
Gearheaderiko
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 07:27 pm: |
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I'm with Nick on this one. Although the Jardine has the promise of being quieter, its a gamble. The V & H although reportedly loud (never heard it),seems to last awhile. They're both about same price.
I just remember gambling with the White Brothers and losing.
"The front mount would crack - same problem as on the WB"-just one of the problems with the WB!
(Message edited by gearheaderiko on April 26, 2006) |
Jmynes
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 08:13 pm: |
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I've got the Jardine, just put in the "Quiet Core Insert". It took the snap out of the exhaust note, but it's still on the loud side. Only have about 200 miles on the pipe so far, so I have no basis to comment on durability, except that the unit is well built and I expect no problems to arise. |
Ezblast
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 11:51 pm: |
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I think the Jardine is very durable - its the mounting hardware I suspect - Buell used a isolated rubber mounting system to protect against cracking a header under stress - the weight of the anchor - lol - well this would work even better for the lighter units - I recommend using it whenever you can - I'd venture to say that it would probably extend the life of any exhaust - especially if you get new OEM hardware for the mounting.
GT - JBOTDS! EZ |
Gearheaderiko
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 26, 2006 - 02:05 am: |
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Well if just the mount breaks and doesnt put a hole in the exhaust, its easily fixable with another non welded strap.
Hey, I'm hoping the Jardine works out since the Pro series and WB have gone the way of the Dodo bird. I'm all for a successful quiet (relative) and inexpensive exhaust. I'm just remiss about gambling with another persons money.
I'm guessing your right about using the rubber isolator mount. Makes sense since the factory used one and there is no reason to do so with the rear of the boat anchor so rigidly mounted, except maybe to allow for variance in bolting up the header to the soft exhaust gasket.
On my WB (non factory style set up), the weak link has been the rivets in the rear of the can, which is perfect. They're cheap, easily replaced and need to be removed for repacking anyway. Saves the rest of the exhaust from breaking (so far). |
Jmynes
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 26, 2006 - 09:07 am: |
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Well, since I have an opinion, I'll share it.
The header pipe is securely fastened to the exhaust port at the top, and to the crankcase at the midway point. Since the engine is a solid unit from the head to the crankcase, why do we need to allow the pipe any 'flexibility'? It seems to me the solid mounting of the pipe at two fixed locations would put less stress on the welds than allowing it to wiggle.
The third mounting point is the strap around the can, with the rubber spacer. The strap just kinda holds the can in place with a fairly gentle grip. It is mounted to the frame, which is NOT fixed in place in relation to the engine. I think the muffler can move within that strap (with rubber spacer) enough to allow for any dimensional variances between the engine and frame while running.
Using a flexible mount at the header/crankcase could help keep stress off that welded tab, but could it also allow the entire header to wiggle, possibly causing an exhaust leak at the crushable gasket in the exhaust port?
I'll be the Guinea Pig for a solid mounted pipe. If the weld breaks, I'll post my despair here. Then I'll get it welded and try mounting with the stock front hardware. |
Ezblast
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 26, 2006 - 12:12 pm: |
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Good luck! |
Jprovo
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 26, 2006 - 12:19 pm: |
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Actually... The strap is mounted to the kickstand bracket which is rigidly mounted to the engine, not the frame... |
Jmynes
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 26, 2006 - 08:05 pm: |
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Hmmmmm......
Looking at the pictures, I think you're right. I'll have to take another look at the bike.
But...... It doesn't change my thoughts as stated above. We'll see how it turns out.
I think if anything breaks it'll be because I drag the can across a speed bump or something. Again. |
Gearheaderiko
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 26, 2006 - 10:42 pm: |
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Are you talking about the Jardine or stock exhaust?
Your points are well taken.
3 reasons I can think of for the mid rubber mount is engine expansion and the compression of the exhaust gasket leading to a variance in fit. Also possibly variances in exhaust production.
My experience has been that everything HD designs is for a reason that may not be apparent. Sometimes we think we make something better only to find out later when it fails why HD (Buell) originally designed it a certain way.
Take the shifter/toe peg. It bends real easy in a fall making it seem cheap but in reality its better than breaking the shifter arm or internals.
Granted some things do seem like an 11th hour fix.
By all means try different mounting exhaust methods, if necessary. EZ seems to have solved the problems with the WB. I cant tell you how many different headlight mountings (just the bolt set up) I went through until I found one that would last on my old FL.
Still hoping the Jardine turns out to be a winner. |
Marijane0569
| | Posted on Friday, April 28, 2006 - 09:53 pm: |
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Ok I ordered the Jardine on 04-26-06. Should get here on 05-03-06, hopefully about the same time as the rest of my parts.
Went through Dennis Kirk, total price was $207.49, that is C.O.D. by the way ( Free Shipping!!!).
"MJ" |
Marijane0569
| | Posted on Thursday, May 04, 2006 - 09:36 am: |
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Ok, UPDATE.
05-02-06 Recieved parts from NRHS. everything looks great. The motor went back together that night, minus the intake and exhaust.
05-03-06 Recieved the Jardine. What was Buell thinking with that stock exhaust? I can appreciate the fact that it was quiet, but do we want stock bikes to sound like a lawnmower??? I did use the stock rubber mount for the front of the Jardine. I like the tone, definatly a much better mellow note to the exhaust, I wouldn't really say the Jardine is loud; louder than the stock YES. But not wake the dead loud( but then again anybody else out there ever hear an old ford flattie running @ 4500 through cutouts?) I absolutly love the sound my bike makes now. I drilled out the little plug to get to the idle mix screw, that is now 3 turns out. I know I need to re-jet. Little bike run good now.
Thanks all for the info, and knowledge.
"MJ" |
Naustin
| | Posted on Thursday, May 04, 2006 - 10:00 am: |
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So what did NRHS end up doing exactly?
505cc out of a stock (used - but not the one you sent them) cylinder, plus a new piston, right? Whats the compression? No headwork, right?
nick |
Gearheaderiko
| | Posted on Thursday, May 04, 2006 - 10:10 am: |
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Congrats "MJ"! Maybe we'll see you in Buellton in October for the American Sport Bike BBQ or at the next SLO ride (possibly in Buellton in Oct)! |
Marijane0569
| | Posted on Monday, May 08, 2006 - 09:30 am: |
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yup,
505 out of a stock used '88-'03 xl cyl. don't know what compression is but she sure runs good now. Doesn't even seem to be useing oil at all either.
"MJ" |
Flrider7
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 07:16 pm: |
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Whoo-hoo!!! Welcome back to the ride! Seemed like you were down forever. |
Ezblast
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 09:17 pm: |
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Right on! See you at the American Sport Bike BBQ!
GT - JBOTDS! EZ |
Marijane0569
| | Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 01:12 am: |
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No kidding, yesterday got new jets, and installed them somewhere I screwed up, now she will not idle. Haven't had the time to tear into her today to see about cleaning out the carb, (maybe a little bit of brass from the old jet is pluging up the idle passage.)
Ez, where does one find out about this little BBQ? Just curious.
Thanks
"MJ" |
Naustin
| | Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 09:31 am: |
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Float tweaked? |
Ezblast
| | Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 11:29 am: |
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This should tell you all about the BBQ -
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/17143/182579.html?1145662855
GT - JBOTDS! EZ |
Ezblast
| | Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 11:30 am: |
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Turn idle screw 2 3/4 out, what jets you use - also - float tweeked?
GT - JBOTDS! EZ |
Marijane0569
| | Posted on Saturday, May 13, 2006 - 01:42 am: |
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Idle screw right now is about 2 1/2 out. She was idleing at about 1150. Thank God for Snap-On timing light w/ tach feature.
Float not looking tweaked, jets used are the 170 an.d the 45. I think what happened was that when removing the 42 jet a little piece of brass became lodged in the idle circut ( that jet did not come out very nicely at all, after it did it promptly dissappeared; go figure); N-E-Ways, Today I removed that jet and the mix screw and cleaned the idle circut out. Berryman's works soo well, reinstalled everything, and she fired and idled. The timing is still a little off, no pinging on the test ride around the block, but I think that she will be hard to start in the morning.
On a side note Where can I find tourque specs for the blast? I found them here somewheres, yet can't seem to find them since.
Thanks
"MJ" |
Marijane0569
| | Posted on Saturday, May 13, 2006 - 02:05 am: |
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Ok, I feel really stupid now, please ignore the "on a side note" part on the above post. I just found what I was looking for.
Thanks
"MJ" |
Jprice
| | Posted on Monday, October 06, 2008 - 01:45 pm: |
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My question is what the heck happened...
Recently my bike sat in a torrential rain for a few days. A week later I quickly rode it town. I came home and changed the oil. I used non-Harley oil that I had on hand. It was the same rating but formulated for racing. (Is that okay?)
Here is what followed: after about seven minutes of riding the bike acted like it was out of fuel. So I switched to the reserve and it still putted all the way to the station where I filled it up with just under two gallons. She ran smother and quieter then ever before. About 20 minutes later I tried to gun it up a steep hill... BLugggggggh and nothing, it was dead Fiddled around and found a bad fuss. Replaced and off I went. This time miss firing, backfiring every ten seconds or so for the next 15 minutes. Even tractor drivers would duck as I drove by.
I stopped and let the bike sit for about 45 minutes. It is running great again?
Did some how replacing the fuss reset the choke improperly to hot engine? Was everything just full of water? Does this have anything to my oil change? Any ideas?
Well, off to get new fusses. |
Reuel
| | Posted on Monday, October 06, 2008 - 05:15 pm: |
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Sounds like water in your fuel system! I use HEET when I start getting the same problems you just described. I used to ride in the rain a lot... |
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