G oog le BadWeB | Login/out | Topics | Search | Custodians | Register | Edit Profile


Buell Forum » THUMPer Forum » Archives » 2013 » Archive through July 14, 2013 « Previous Next »

Author Message
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Ezblast
Posted on Friday, July 05, 2013 - 01:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Das Boot!!!!
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Freudflintstone
Posted on Sunday, July 07, 2013 - 05:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Speedo sensor will be here tomorrow. Das boots are in the mail and should be here by Tuesday. Hopefully this takes care of my issues. The bike takes awhile to start up. Would this be a symptom of the boot having a tear in it, or should I be troubleshooting? I'm thinking I might give the spark plug a look and replace it. No sense in doing all the work for a quick glance. Thanks for the help! Once I get this thing whipped into shape I hope to take some longer rides. I took it out today, but it died at several stop signs. So, I'm thinking I should wait until I repair the boot. Don't want to kill the battery out in the boonies!
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Gearheaderiko
Posted on Sunday, July 07, 2013 - 05:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tear in the boot = lean mixture. Lean mixture = hard starting.
That's your starting point. To try and further diagnose would be chasing your tail if the boot is still an issue.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Freudflintstone
Posted on Sunday, July 07, 2013 - 05:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OK. I tried to use some Gorilla duct tape as a temp fix. I learned that duct tape melts at high temperature. Ah well. Patience is a virtue.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Ezblast
Posted on Monday, July 08, 2013 - 01:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah the other temp fixes end up laming out as well. Thumpe has a new boot out on sale with his super clamping system, a lot sturdier unit is now being sold aftermarket.
EZ
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Freudflintstone
Posted on Tuesday, July 09, 2013 - 06:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I received my "new" 74431-01B speedo sensor in the mail today. The packaging is labeled 74431-01B, but the part is labeled -01A. It also looks used. Ugh. Is this the old part that will just burn up on me again?
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Gearheaderiko
Posted on Tuesday, July 09, 2013 - 08:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If the part number doesn't match the number on the box (an 01B supersedes an 01A) and it looks used-return it. I've learned to check parts boxes that are not factory sealed. It's not unusual to find a used part in the box.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Freudflintstone
Posted on Wednesday, July 10, 2013 - 09:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, I have repaired the boot and am in the process of returning the "new" part. I have also ordered one from an actual dealership so I'm fairly confident I'm getting the real deal.

However, my bike continues to backfire. Right now, I'm stuck across town from my apartment because the boot popped off. It's still starting hard as well. :-\
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Freudflintstone
Posted on Wednesday, July 10, 2013 - 09:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And I killed the battery trying to start and had to park it for the might. When I parked it, I smashed the male - female connection for the headlight. Definitely won't be walking under any ladders.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Gearheaderiko
Posted on Thursday, July 11, 2013 - 01:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Repaired the boot" means you replaced it with a new original equipment boot?
Are you using the stock airbox?
Was the old boot actually bad?

The carb should not pop out of a new boot if installed properly and using the stock airbox (yes, it can happen with a stock airbox, but its not easy).
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Freudflintstone
Posted on Thursday, July 11, 2013 - 03:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The old boot was actually a piece of 1.5" rubber hose. It had a noticeable tear in it. I replaced it with a stock boot, and I'm using the stock airbox. It popped out after several back fires.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Freudflintstone
Posted on Thursday, July 11, 2013 - 03:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There is the possibility I'm doing it wrong. I loosened the two bolts on the back and the one on the front, pulled the old one off, slipped the new one on, and tightened everything up.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Gearheaderiko
Posted on Thursday, July 11, 2013 - 06:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bolts? 2 on the back, 1 on the front? I don't understand?!
The boot is held on with 2 hose clamps.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Freudflintstone
Posted on Thursday, July 11, 2013 - 08:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I loosened the air box a bit.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Noochmahh
Posted on Thursday, July 11, 2013 - 11:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So the car flasher fixed my lighting woes. Thank you EZ. But ever since I replaced the flash the bike won't start. I push the button and nothing and I mean nothing happens. From one conundrum to another.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Gearheaderiko
Posted on Thursday, July 11, 2013 - 11:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It might sound silly but......is the kill switch turned off?
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Ezblast
Posted on Friday, July 12, 2013 - 12:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Battery tight? grounds tight?
EZ
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Noochmahh
Posted on Friday, July 12, 2013 - 01:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The engine turned over just yesterday. I actually cycled the kill switch when it wouldn't start. Checked the clutch switch was plugged in. The lights are on and bright so the battery has juice. It's like the start switch wasn't making contact. The only thing that changed since yesterday was the flash module swap. I'm charging the battery tonight I will try again tomorrow.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Ezblast
Posted on Friday, July 12, 2013 - 01:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

kill the kill switches.
EZ
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Ezblast
Posted on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 02:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Also check fuses - lol
EZ
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Gearheaderiko
Posted on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 12:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Freud... sounds like the boot wasnt on all the way or tight enough.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Freudflintstone
Posted on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 02:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You would be correct. It is tight now. It still backfires a few times when I first start it. Is that normal, or should I be looking for other issues?
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Gearheaderiko
Posted on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 02:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The idle may be too low and if the jetting is still stock it's too lean.
Also check for a vacuum port with a bad or missing cap.
Does it have a high idle when in cold start mode?
Does it still backfire when warmed up?
Does it hesitate (besides the backfiring)?
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Freudflintstone
Posted on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 07:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As far as I know, everything is stock. I'm not exactly sure where the vacuum port is on the bike, but I would like to check that. I don't think the idle is high, but it is hard to tell when I am giving it gas to work through the backfires and hesitations. Once it is warmed up, I don't notice any backfires, and I do notice hesitations when I first start riding it but only at slower speeds. Once I get going, it seems to work fine.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Gearheaderiko
Posted on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 08:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, oftentimes when the boot is bad the idle gets too high and gets turned down. Often the idle needs to be raised back up after a good boot is installed. We definitely need to get you into a #45 slow jet and richen up your idle mixture. See how that goes, then add some needle shims.
Are you comfortable dropping the carb float bowl to change a jet?
Drilling out the small aluminium plug that covers the idle mixture screw?
All are fairly simple if you are mechanically inclined and will make a huge difference in running.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Freudflintstone
Posted on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 09:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm not really comfortable doing that without a manual or someone with me who knows what they're doing. I've never messed with a carb before. Any of you in Indiana?
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Noochmahh
Posted on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 09:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So the new EP36-Flasher only has 3 prongs and the flasher in the buell has 5. So when I pull out the stock one and put in the EP36 it won't start. What is the work around to this as the new flasher does fix all my lighting problems?
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Gearheaderiko
Posted on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 09:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for your honesty. Can you take a picture of the bottom of the carb? That could tell us if the idle mix screw was already uncapped.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Gearheaderiko
Posted on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 09:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Okay, sounds like you plugged into the starter relay instead. The flasher plug only has 3. It should be on the right side of the battery.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Ezblast
Posted on Sunday, July 14, 2013 - 08:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

LOL - true on the flasher -
Fr
make sure air screw/idle mix screw 2 to 2 1/4 turns out from gentle bottom, for stock a 45 primary jet and 170 main are best for a stock or near stock Blast. Jetting is easy manuals at my group site - see profile - lol
EZ

(Message edited by ezblast on July 15, 2013)
« Previous Next »

Topics | Last Day | Tree View | Search | User List | Help/Instructions | Rules | Program Credits Administration