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Milt
Posted on Monday, April 07, 2008 - 10:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks, guys.
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Reuel
Posted on Monday, April 07, 2008 - 02:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If your ignition module is off, your timing cup gap will be up and slightly forward at TDC. Down and aft means you're 180 degrees off.
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Dankno
Posted on Sunday, August 03, 2008 - 07:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here we go again... Got everything disassembled, cleaned up, swapped out and put back together, now at idle I have a "Tick-Tick-Tick" that sounds like its coming from the left side of the jug (I could be wrong,) it does go away with RPM but I didn't spend too much time playing with it, I don't want to blow it up or round a cam or get smacked in the crotch by an errant rocker arm/valve spring/etc. Before I put it all back together I did check for play on the rockers and pushrods, nice and tight...
Any ideas on where I screwed up???
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Swampy
Posted on Sunday, August 03, 2008 - 07:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Probably a lifter has pumped down. Just run it and it will bleed itself out and the noise will go away.

Ticks are normal, knocks are not.

I had a tick on me last month. They really give me the creeps.
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Dankno
Posted on Sunday, August 03, 2008 - 07:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thats what I was hoping, Thank you. Sorry to hear about the little bloodsucker... Thats probably the only thing I don't miss about living in a wooded area. <shudder> Those things are gross...
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Dankno
Posted on Monday, August 04, 2008 - 12:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Update: 20 Miles to work this morning and no problems, the "ticks" were absent when I fired her up, no oil on the leg, and all seems to be well. Again, thanks to all that helped, I really appreciate it. To anyone considering changing out the gasket themselves, ITS ACTUALLY VERY EASY!!! I had a worse time swapping the heads on my small block Vega project car. Just take your time, organize your parts, use the hints provided here, and get a shop manual. I have some pics I'll post soon. Thanks again!
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Bzbuell
Posted on Monday, October 06, 2008 - 07:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Was it ever determined for CERTAIN whether this leak is considered a warranty fix? Specifically, for the 2000 model year? I can't say I'm looking forward to trying this one myself.
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Reuel
Posted on Tuesday, October 07, 2008 - 12:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It certainly was a warranty fix. Got mine done while it was under warranty.
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Ezblast
Posted on Tuesday, October 07, 2008 - 12:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If the bike was under warranty - then they would fix it, however, it was never a recall, just a parts upgrade across the board for all HD/Buell Products.
EZ
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Bzbuell
Posted on Tuesday, October 07, 2008 - 07:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OK, not a recall so it's too late for me to get it done for free now. Is it worth paying the local H-D dealer $90 to do it? I've read the procedure posted here a few times, and I'm wondering if I should leave this one to a mechanic.
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Berkshire
Posted on Tuesday, October 07, 2008 - 01:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

IMO, no, it's not worth paying $90 to have the dealer do it, unless that price includes ALL of the top-end gaskets & o-rings, and/or you really hate working on things and/or lack the tools and/or experience to do it, and/or you've got more disposable income than you know what to do with...

So pretty much I'd say do it yourself!

...it's really the only way to get to know your bike!
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Bzbuell
Posted on Tuesday, October 07, 2008 - 02:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's settled, then. I'll give it a go myself. All the dealer sold me was the one main gasket for the rocker box. Should I get any other gaskets before I open her up?
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Ezblast
Posted on Thursday, August 27, 2009 - 06:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just wanna be clear... this is the Rocker Cover to Rocker Plate assembly gasket. Not the rocker plate to cylinder head gasket. I allready scraped old paper one off and installed new orange one(rocker plate to head). They must have updated the Rocker cover itself...with a groove to be able to use the newer orange gasket(maybe the rocker plate itself with matching groove). Just trying to keep another noober(like myself) from getting stalled out...with incompatable part from 07 parts manual (for 01 or other pre 07 blast) rest of parts I ordered seem to be fine. IMO... 07 Rocker Cover gasket Will NOT work on 01. PLZ correct if I'm missing something?

A question I can't answer, because the last one I did was the older straight metal.
EZ
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Friday, August 28, 2009 - 01:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Indications from the parts manuals are that they changed the above said related parts in 2007. Including the rocker cover, plate, inner and outer gaskets.

It shows the rocker to cylinder head gasket as the same (for 2009).

Thats from a preliminary perusal through the 2005 & 2009 parts manuals. Without looking at the parts myself, I couldnt say whether any/all gaskets are even compatible (but it sounds as if they arent).
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Ezblast
Posted on Friday, August 28, 2009 - 06:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thank you.
EZ
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Valhalha30
Posted on Friday, March 29, 2013 - 04:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It was mentioned earlier in this post that any Buell Blast 2002 or older had a free Rocker box gasket repair at a HD/Buell dealership....... I know that response was posted in 2007-2008, and I know it's been ages since Buell and HD split up, but, if my bike never received that repair for that recall,(to my knowledge), is it possible I can still get that repair done for free at a HD dealership? Or am I s.o.l and forced to do it myself because the original owner was ignorant and didn't get the repair done when they had ownership of the bike? Hopefully, the decision to do the repair for free isn't under the discretion of a HD dealership, because odds are that they won't even take a look at it. BUT, If I can still get it done for free, I'm getting that repair done next week. Anyone know if I can still get this ghastly repair done for free by HD?
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Friday, March 29, 2013 - 05:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Very doubtful. The rear pulley recall-very possibly yes (not your bike year though), but I'm very doubtful you'll get the gaskets done for free if you're not the original owner. Doesnt hurt to ask of course!
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Swampy
Posted on Friday, March 29, 2013 - 10:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah...Like you want the H-D(spit) dealer working on your bike...

It will come back not running and they will say that is how you rode it in...
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Ezblast
Posted on Saturday, March 30, 2013 - 02:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No it was not free - in late 2002 HD made a corporate decision - switching from it's paper gaskets to a modern cosmetic style - that included Buell. No recall was made because it was a corporate decision to upgrade something that had served them well since their company's inception. A betterment of a product, does not necessitate a recall of old product. In other words your stuck with it and its your dime to fix it.
EZ
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Valhalha30
Posted on Saturday, March 30, 2013 - 11:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the quick responses!
Well, looks like the original owner screwed me on this one. They say ignorance is bliss.... well, whoever said that didn't have to pay for another's ignorance xD
Oh well.... it's always good to get to know your bike by wrenching on it yourself...... right?
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Milt
Posted on Saturday, March 30, 2013 - 04:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have ten thumbs.

Changing the rocker box gaskets is pretty really easy, as long as you read the shop manual carefully.

1) If you don't have a shop manual, buy one before you do anything.

Make sure you know precisely what "top dead center" means. Don't ask me why I'm cautioning you about this.

Which brings me to my second point:

2) If you're even the slightest bit unsure about any procedure, part, tool, phrase or word - ASK.
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Milt
Posted on Saturday, March 30, 2013 - 04:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And lose those Dunlops.
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Saturday, March 30, 2013 - 05:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


Yes, please ask! It's far easier for us to help you before you create a problem, than to try and figure out what problem you created!
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Valhalha30
Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2013 - 11:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cool, thanks guys! I'm sure I'm going to be bugging you all for advice when I decide to tackle that project lol.
Why lose the Dunlops? They seem pretty nice for the Blast, never had an issue with them.. and they handle a damp/wet road pretty nicely..... what should I be riding instead, though?
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2013 - 12:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They are dangerous!!!! Pirelli in the stock size MT75s or Pirelli diablo's (scooter) if you want an oversized rear tire. Trust me, put on a set of Pirellis and you'll think your Blast has a different suspension!! The ride will be noticeably smoother, seriously.
Lastly, YOU DO NOT WANT AN INFERIOR FRONT TIRE ON YOUR BLAST. Unless $60,000 in medical bills appeals to you.
The Dunlops also cost more!!!
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Valhalha30
Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2013 - 01:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh....... damn... I just bought those tires last season too........
And if you're refering to the infamous Dunlop tire rot that took place a few years ago from "reformulation", that has been fixed. My Yamaha Seca rides on Dunlop race-rated tires and they perform really well, and no tire rot...... I bought the Dunlops for the Blast because I wanted a more performance oriented tire rather than touring or fuel-economy...... are the Pirelli MT75's comprable to the Dunlops in performance/handling?
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2013 - 02:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Okay, I've been riding Blasts since 2002. WE RACED on the MT75s, and are the first choice in performance since Pirelli began making them. Later came the Pirelli Diablo scooter tires and they are reported to also have optimum handling capabilities. I can get the Dunlop to slide under very mild street cornering. I'll pitch the Pirelli into a turn without hesitation and complete confidence. If you own another motorcycle YOU WILL feel the difference with the Pirellis.
Dunlop is not my favourite tyre but they do make good tyres. I even run them on "The Beast", but that bike isn't as near capable as the Blast at pushing tyre limits. Some other brands/models swear by Dunlops and I've no cause to disagree-I don't ride or have experience with their bikes. On the Blast however they are exceedingly poor performers and at a premium cost.
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2013 - 03:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hopefully that makes sense without me coming across as an a hole. Many of us here are very passionate about getting people to ditch the Blast dangerous Dunlops. If you must, keep the rear and ditch the front for something safer. $60 or $60,000. Your choice.
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Ecr223
Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2013 - 04:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ever since I bought my blast last year, every now and again, when learning through a curve I thought I could feel the rear slipping... Slow, fast, didn't matter, and this was on dry pavement. I thought maybe it was just my inexperience. Then, I started reading on here everyones advice to ditch the "dunflops"... So, the diablos are in the basement, and hopefully I can get the bike up there this weekend, and have them put on, and really start having a blast....
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Ezblast
Posted on Friday, April 12, 2013 - 02:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thats a start!
EZ
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