| Author | Message | ||
     Milt |
Greasy finger prints are like annotations in a textbook. And where do you get the Buell-it bourbon? | ||
| Kustomklassix |
HAPPY BIRTHDAY EZ!!! Have an awesome day you Blasterd!  | ||
| Swampy |
Guys don't wish their buds Happy Birthday, unless it's while you are lifting a pint! Happy Birthday! Do you know why that is? Because guys are usually using every inch of brain realestate to remember their significant others birthday and there is noplace left to store their buddys birthday information. | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
My wife's birthday is Jan 1st. We got married on Superbowl sunday. Our first date was on my birthday. That keeps it real simple!!! | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
Welcome Limelight! I'm not sure where the horror stories came from about burnt valves though as I cant remember ever reading about them here?! | ||
| Ezblast |
lol - Das Boot! EZ | ||
| Limelight |
Argggg! De Feet! So get her riding, go out round the hood twice. Decide to go on a third drive and it starts popping and backfiring. Switch over to reserve and remember I only ever put 1 gallon of gas in the beast before I started working on it a week ago. So most that gas is on the ground, lol. Head back home and park her. Get up the next morning, start her up, took 3 tries but was freezing cold. Take her all the way into town, which is 2 miles away on some twisties. Get her up to about 40 mph, running great. Pull into gas station which is on a steep incline and kill her 2 feet from pump. Fill her up with premium (4 bucks!) which was an adventure all in its own. Pump I was at was on the hill and bike was leaning more than 45 degree away so had to balance her up with one hand and fill her with the other. Hop on her, fire her up, go around the corner to head home and miss second gear... Try again and no second, or neutral. Pull over, kill her, try to shift again. Nothing. Shifter moves but no click. She starts right up and rider her home in first. Speed limit is 30 so no biggie but was looking to open her up for once, lol. Get home and read the horrors on bent forks and splitting the cases. Drain primary fluid which has gold specs in it. Remove footrest support bracket. Held on with 1 nut, second partly on bolt, 3rd missing. Tells me last owner got this far... Open clutch cover and ramp assembly is so loose it's falling off. Adjust, still cant shift. Remove primary cover after hours of yanking and cursing to find i missed the one center bolt. DOH! Remove bolt. struggle some more. Remove ramp assembly and cover falls right off. TADA! Primary chain guide has broken and one piece is wedged in the shift paw mech. Pull it out and she shifts fine but notice one more "problem".... The primary chain tensioner on the bottom is being held against the chain by the spring. Shouldn't the spring be holding the tensioner away from the chain and the adjustment bolt holds it to it from the bottom? Did the last owner put the spring on backwards? The manual isn't too clear and I haven't been able to find a pic or vid of the assembly in proper config.. | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
No. The spring holds it against the chain. The bolt is only a limiter (limits the movement of the guide and chain). Follow the manual for adjustment, but go 12+ flats out instead of the 4.5-5 flats the manual says. Then adjust by ear if you feel comfortable doing that (but its the best way to get it close-may take some practice). First buy a new shoe! When you're done working out the bugs it will be very reliable. Its sounds as if the previous owner abused the bike (purposely or through negligence) or just couldnt get the hang of maintenance. | ||
| Limelight |
tits! Believe it or not the shoe looks brand new. The only other spot i see is a wear spot in the primary cover right below the clutch. I'm assuming this is from the loose clutch race assembly but I couldn't imagine how. I don't see any wear marks on the chain or clutch pack. Maybe this was from a previous fubar and repair. No clue. The clutch pack feels solid so I'm 99.99% sure it's ok. Now to just wait out christmas till the harley shop opens again.. I don't want a pickle! | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
Maybe its from a previous repair, but I know it wont be again  Good night, Arlo & Merry Christmas | ||
| Ezblast |
 EZ | ||
| Ezblast |
If the clutch race bearing is loose, it needs replacing. EZ | ||
| Themagster |
Balls!! I don't want a pickle, just wanna ride my motorcicle... Happy Birthday EZ  "Make Bloody Marys 'Cause we all want one Merry Christmas from the Fam-A-Lee" Say, can you see the BEST bike in the pack?  | ||
| Limelight |
Arlo Guthrie and Robert Earl Keen, nice! I'm only a few miles from his old ranch here in Tx. | ||
| Limelight |
Stupid Mondays! Every shop is closed today of course for rides, then find out they were open the 24th. Arrrg, could have had my parts by now. Well, cleaned up the primary cover while waiting for the sun to sit and raise again. Also sent a message to previous previous owner (the guy who I bought it from bought it from) to see if they knew what issues and repairs it had. Waiting for a word back. While cleaning cover I noticed a ton of more wear areas on the cover that look pretty new but I don't see any wear marks on the sprockets, primary chain, shoe, clutch or ANYTHING! Considering I've only run the thing a whole 30 mins and never heard any grinding or rubbing I'm hoping this is from previous repair. What do you guys think? Didn't see any chips or metal flakes in the primary oil except for the gold specs which I'm assuming was from the high sulphur gear oil I drained out. Distant memory of burning my hand welding as a kid and Granny put gold gear grease on it... No wonder we all die of cancer in my family.. I didn't take any pics of the primary chain or clutch cause they look perfect. Only wear I can see is ever so slight on one edge of the starter flywheel. Shoe looks brand new but those primary chain marks on the cover once again make me think the spring should be pulling the shoe away from the chain and the bolt holds it too it. But you guys told me otherwise so I'm going with you and leaving the shoe pushing against the chain.           | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
If the shoe looks brand new at 8100 miles then it was probably from a previous repair. Just, as EZ said, make sure the clutch hub bearing isnt loose. The shoe is a spring loaded chain tensioner. Current or aftermarket conversions use a like configuration to do away with primary chain adjustments. The Blast uses a hybrid of the two. The spring keeps tension on the shoe against the the chain and the adjuster bolt limits the movement. The repair manual however cause the chain adjustment to be too tight and the factory spacer (on the adjuster bolt) causes it to be way to loose if left in after the first 1000 miles. My guess is no one took the spacer out or adjusted it to the manual specs. Either way could destroy the shoe and/or let the chain slap around a lot. Does it still have the plastic chain guide on the inside top of the primary cover/housing? | ||
| Limelight |
Nope. Plastic chain guide on top is what broke, about 2 inches from rear end and lodged in shift paw. Clutch hub bearing is good. I took a few pics of the primary (in the dark) and when I compare it to other blast pics I have found my chain seems a bit longer and the shoe is much much higher. Considering this thing had the wrong head gasket on it, you think the primary chain was replaced and the wrong one used? 51 links I counted I believe..dark and cold and muddy ground...    (Message edited by limelight on December 26, 2011) | ||
| Ezblast |
Need a new primary chain if its still eating the case like that. EZ | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
If the chain is within the limits of the adjuster, then its the right chain. There are only two lengths of primary chain readily available that I know of and I dont think they'd be close enough to be able to run either without serious problems.The chain guide can come apart if the chain is run too loose and probably why all the damage. | ||
| Limelight |
well, it looks like it clears now, lol. Minus the metal right under that center bolt under the shift shaft. lol. Good thing I didn't order my parts yet, looks like I'm getting a primary chain as well. Better now than on the road. I'm getting tired of wasting synth oil. lol. Now if someone can find me a harley dealer that isnt 65 miles away and staffed by dicks. I have to drive an extra 30 miles to get a dealer that is cool (yay Stubbs in south houston).. | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
Chain PT #40005-57B is a pretty generic part fitting many bikes so it should be readily available anywhere that sells Sportster/Harley parts. Mail order is your only other choice. | ||
| Limelight |
You would think so...No, Mancuso Harley, our main dealer down here doesnt seem to carry any buell parts and has to special order everything I ask for even a generic 883 head gasket... WTF?! I know its wrong gasket but I just needed a tester to get bike running and correct gasket 16774-86D is in the mail to Mancuso (ManAsshole) Harley... | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
To not have a primary chain in stock thats been in use since 1957 is very sad.... | ||
| Limelight |
No dealer within 500 miles from me has that primary chain in stock, or the chain guide, or gasket. Houston, Austin, or Dallas. Wait for it, wait for it....The main parts warehouse is closed till next year! Thank you, Thank you, my pleasure to entertain you fine folks tonight... | ||
| Swampy |
Limelight, Have you tried Bumpus or any other of our sponsers. Are you sure your chain is bad? Usually nothing goes wrong with the primary chain. Just because it has been rubbing on the cover does not mean is is bad. Also check the bottom shoe for wear, if the shoe is worn out you might not be able to get the chain as tight as it needs to be but I think even with a worn out shoe you can still adjust it to where it needs to be. | ||
| Limelight |
Swampy....did you read my posts or look at the pics? The shoe is brand new and the chain is rubbing on the center bolt housing and already ground down. The shoe is as far in as it can go. Here are a few more pics with the sun up-ish.   | ||
| Swampy |
LOL! Yeah, Uh...Limelite....It looks like something is wrong with your chain..... So to answer your question....no I think I did not read your post....and your earlier pictures simply did not give that perspective, and now it is perfectly clear...I'm just saying, primary chains do not go bad. To replace the primary chain you need to remove both the crankshaft sprocket and the clutch hub sprocket at the same time with the primary chain. Can you now remove the chain without removing either the cranshaft or clutch hub sprocket? If the chain was worn you would see it in the sprockets also. Did I miss something? Or am I jsut reiterating the obvious? | ||
| Swampy |
And comeonalready....there is snow on the ground where I live....give a guy a break! | ||
| Limelight |
It must have been born bad, lol. I know, I haven't pulled the hub and sprockets yet to keep from losing pieces. I'm working on this thing in the yard. RV, no garage. The primary is ALMOST loose enough to pull right off. I looked close at the sprockets and I can see a little wallowing in the teeth but barely and sections of chain feel like they mate well with the sprockets. When I play with the chain it feels like the links are completely worn. Still waiting on a word back from previous previous owner to see what work was done on it. With the wrong head gasket I found I get the feeling this thing was taken to a "Harley Guy" wrenchie previously. I've never seen a chain stretched like this except on a chain saw. Good thing I got till next year till I get the parts, sigh... Snow; isn't that what tire chains are for? lol. I just want to ride the mf'er! arrg! | ||
| Limelight |
It's that brand new show that bothers me. And the fact the plastic chain guide snapped, makes me think it had already cracked and wasn't replaced. I ran the thing at most an hour and 3 times around the hood at 35 tops and never heard and noise from the primary. Had more noise from the top end till it got warmed up and then the thing sounded perfect to me and that was with the static timing method. |
