| Author | Message | ||
     Swampy |
Today I was at my sons shop. I was in the service department and a guy came in to pick up his Suzi. He asked how much to clean the carb on his Harley. He looked across the street at the Harley dealer and said "I won't take it there, they are jerks" then said he was dropping off the Harley later today. Sometimes you only get one chance. They could have had a customer for life, but because of their egos, they chose not to. | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
Yup! Been there, done that more than once  | ||
| 2hrcommute |
Are they suppose to balance the rear wheel with the sprocket on it? They showed me the wheel on the balance machine and it was balanced without any weights, but it did not have the sprocket. | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
It'll be fine. Pirelli's often take very little in weight, so zero would not be unheard of. Sprocket on is preferable, but doubtful it will change the results. | ||
| 2hrcommute |
Great! Thank you so much | ||
| Djeroc |
can some one tell me what are the largest avon tires i can put on my blast. i know i can find it if i look but im short on time thanx | ||
| Ezblast |
140/70r & 110/70f, the Pirelli in that size are better. EZ | ||
| Shryke300 |
I am very new to motorcycles and the blast is my first. Ive been reading the threads on tires for a few hours tonight and still do not have a conclusive answer to my question: What tire do i need? I want a good all-around tire that will help me out learning how to take corners and generally being a good all around tire. From what I've read, the pirelli's are a very good bet, and i was looking at the mt75. Anyone have any better advice? Also, what size? Thank you in advance | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
MT75's are your best bet and came standard on the last Blasts made. By the time you wear them out you'll have a better understanding of what you might want different out of a tire. MT75's only come in one size front and rear for the Blast. (which is a 16" tire. The only other size is a 17" tire that wont fit). | ||
| Shryke300 |
And that would be the 120/80 and the 100/80, correct? Thank you very much for the reply. | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
Correct. They are the only 16" MT75's available. The MT75's in 16" were produced for the Blast. | ||
| Thumpe |
My tires are in need of changing. I was looking at some an found these Michelin's City Grip tires they have them in 110/70/16 and 140/70/16. Has anyone tried these yet?   | ||
| Thumpe |
Just got done chatting with the MotorcycleSuperstore.com these are S rated 112mph Sweet!! I think this is the first tire rated for the Blast!! They have a sale on these with a coupon code (M351-MICHELIN) right now for a pair F-R $130.48 shipped. I'm going for it putting my order in right now i'll keep you posted on this. | ||
| Ezblast |
Let us know how they work? Seems they where made for excellent wet traction, how is the dry handling - that is my question - do they handle better than the Pirelli Diablos? That is the question we all want to know. EZ | ||
| Thumpe |
I like the Diablos they lasted me 3500 miles almost twice as long as the Avons lol and they handle great also. I like the S rating on the Michelins if they handle and last is the question. I should have them for the weekend now if it just stop rain would be nice. | ||
| Ezblast |
Heck - those puppies where made for rain, go ride. EZ | ||
| Tortoise |
Thumpe, I am highly interested in those tires. We get about 6 months of rain in Oregon but it is still warm enough to ride (usually). Please keep us informed as to the performance and life of the tires. I am on my 4th rear Pirelli tire and getting tired of replacing it every few thousand miles... Do you see any clearance issues if I put them on a stock Blast? | ||
| Thumpe |
I'd like to get acouple miles on them to see how they feel lol before i ride in the rain with them. I'll keep posting on this as soon as i get them on i'll get some pics up to. | ||
| Thumpe |
Not that i'm going to be doing 112mph anytime soon on the S rating. lol But there have been times i've been above 92 an it's one more thing you don't have to worry about at them speeds. I'd like the idea of being over rated then under rated Hopefully they will prove worthy of the mighty Blast  | ||
| Forerunner |
There is however, something to a higher speed rated tire. To withstand the higher forces and heat generated in the tire at those speeds the tire needs to be constructed stronger. Not a bad thing.  | ||
| Ezblast |
True, however, those P rated tires where made for a much heavier scooter, so I wouldn't panic over the p rating just yet, and they are made along the same lines as their motorcycle tire - the Diablos that is. EZ | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
Heavier constructed tire just means a worse ride and possibly even less traction. If you're 'big' or ride fully loaded 2 up, then that might be a good thing. If you're not, you lose out. Concur with Thumpe. (I deleted my previous post as it really read way to harsh). Most dont have to worry about the P rating even with occasional sprints to 96mph! Tires are under rated (or over tested) and if you're not cooking the tires (and I mean turning them blue), you dont really have much to worry about. | ||
| Forerunner |
Stronger does not necessarily mean significantly heavier. This can be in the form of steel cords instead of nylon or other less sturdy materials. I would agree that a significantly heavier tire may not be preferable. And for the record, I never said that lower or non speed rated tires would be an issue or that you have anything to worry about. YMMV, Nels | ||
| Ezblast |
Let me put this simply - that tire is constructed along the same lines as their motorcycle tire Diablo. It is the only scooter tire that has that going for it, that is why it costs more. The two bikes it is fit for weight 40 and 50 pounds more, you have ridden on these tires, and know that not to be true as far as worse traction - they have great traction, and I consider the ride quality better than the stock Pirelli by a long shot and they hold air way better as well, and I've been on both for years now. You can get as harsh as you want, it still doesn't change the fact that there are not a lot of tire choices out there, and that these oversize, that the Ninja 250 crowd are using now as well, are the better option than the stock sized options, even with a P rating. EZ | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
Whoa, whoa, whoa, I wasnt even talking about the Pirelli!!! I think the dialogue began with the Michelins? -In general- when you start making the carcass of a tire "stronger", whether that includes heavier or stiffer, you compromise handling and ride if the application of the tire is the same. I think it would be very difficult to make a tire "stronger" without adding stiffness to it. On the extreme end, putting a tire with a load rating of 1000lbs when the specified tire only needs a load rating of 500lbs is going to give you a harsh ride. We arent talking about that extreme of an example, but the same basic rules apply. After much debate and talking to Avon on the phone, I think worrying about the "P" rating is unwarranted unless you really are pushing the tire to the limits (disregarding load rating, tire size, etc.). ...and I still think the oversized rear Diablo gives a harsher ride than the stock sized MT75. But then again I dont need the extra load rating and all it did for me is harshen the ride. You think I made that up? Do you want to see the purchase receipt for the tires? Or the track day receipt? Thats my honest opinion and I get questioned on it again and again. Is ralph posting as EZ? | ||
| Ezblast |
Naw - nothing like that - I'm a bigger guy, perhaps what is harsh to you is probably comfy to my size, I have the heavier coiled Works shock as well, so lets just say road input in the rear section is very precise, but I chose it to be that way. I don't think you made anything up? Huh? - I'm just saying we haven't got a lot of choices outside of Pirelli, even though they are really good, wouldn't it be cool if we could get whats offered in the 17", but we don't. I think Thumpe may have a tire that could be the new king of wet tires, as the old Avon was. Awe shucks - I'm hurt! - You called me Ralph - lol Must be the evening coffee. EZ | ||
| Forerunner |
Ok Gear, I get where you're coming from now. As you mentioned adding strength to a tire can add weight and stiffness. Whether it's enough to be noticed by the rider and worth the trade off each rider will need to decide for themselves. And the dialog is about the new Michelin. I would use the Diablo as an example of a tire that is built to handle a heavier scooter and most ppl who use this tire report positive results and not harshness or loss of control. I understand you found the ride harsher. Fair enough. YMMV, Nels | ||
| Thumpe |
Easy guys it's only set of tires! LOL I'll be getting them today hopefully early enough to get them mounted up. An these are designed for medium to large displacement scooters. I'd like everything to work out for me being the tester on these keeping my hopes up. | ||
| Ezblast |
Yes - if they handle well, they definitely will be of interest to a lot of folks who have to deal with rain as a part of their ride - that would be Florida as well, I remember the 5pm shower that is almost a daily occurrence of Daytona Beach - of course when it got real hot, we kind of missed it, and still it would rain some of those days as well. Getting caught in the rain is a lot easier in some states than others - lol - Seriously Erik, your experience with the tires is not doubted, and I truly respect your work with it, however, I have to call on my own experiences as well, and though they don't reflect all of yours, they are still valid as well as yours - as I said - a larger person probably will find the tire more absorbing, and less harsh, etc. - still the best thing that I like is how well they hold air, I got tired of checking air every single day, two to three times a week is much better. Heck, I check the CR once a week and it rarely needs any air added. EZ | ||
| Forerunner |
Hey EZ, are you referring to the stock Dunlops re: holding air? I check my tires, both auto and bikes, every couple of weeks and before a roadtrip. Usually there's not a lot of variance and just needs a little topping at the worst or if there's a leak from a puncture. I've been shocked by the frequency of air loss, about 4-6 lbs, on my stock Dunlops. This is on both front and rear and there doesn't appear to be any leaks or punctures. YMMV, Nels |
