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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 06:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I dont believe there is a technical definition.
The term was born from the Mods & Rockers day of 1960's Great Britain. These (Rockers) would modify there bikes to emulate the racing bikes of the day but were used mainly to race from one cafe to another in search of the magic 'ton'.

So it could mean any bike made to look like an old 50's-60's road racing bike.
There are some (badweb)links for more info.
See also 'Ace Cafe'.
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Swampy
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 06:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I read someplace that it had to do with the bikes racing from cafe to cafe along the coast of California. In G.B. it would be a Pub.

It would have been better described in Michigan though because we probably have the most coastline.
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 06:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sorry,it has nothing to do with California.
A Pub & a Cafe are two different places.
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Ezblast
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 11:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It started as a British thing - it's modern American counter part would be the American Street Fighter - cough, cough - Buell - lol -
Got Thump?! Just Blasting on the Dark side! EZ
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Rex
Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 02:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cafe Racers, a big thing in europe, but never really caught on in the us...
cool bikes though...My Honda GB 500 looks like an early british cafe racer, with quarter fairing, seat tail cowling, etc...cool looking bikes.
-the new triumph thruxton coming out looks like the old cafe racers...and it is being shown in all of this months magazines.
-HD tried it with the sportster cafe racer...never caught on, and is now a really sought after bike....there is a european site
http://www.mecatwin.com/en/motos/hd/xlcr/index.htm
that is coming out with a kit for the sportster to make it look like the old cafe racer.
-a blast would look cool, made into a cafe racer.

My profile is blank...yep, sorry, but I am like you guys...limited income.....so
-Yes, I would need to find a cheap used blast and then find a cheap used XB and get some free help putting it all together....would be a cool bike though...a six speed sporster tranny would be cool to put in it too. rex
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Bomber
Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 02:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All

I searched but found no reference to the EZ Pull clutch thingie in the Thumper pages . . . . does this product fit Blasts? My wife's never complained aboutthe clutch lever effort on her Balst (she grew up with old trumptets), but I'd love to see the look on her face if I just installed one on her scoot . . . .

thanks for the backup
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Ezblast
Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 06:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes - its been done and reviewed - I'll hunt it down - here it is!
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/20164/25302.html?1051035175
Works like a charm - recommended them to several folks with hand grip holding problems - made by CRG for sport bikes - so no problem with fit!
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 06:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is he talking about adjustable hand levers or the EZ Clutch Pull generally mounted to HD's?
(I checked the page link but only saw it for CRG adjustable levers)
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Ezblast
Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 08:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm talking CRG adjustables -
http://www.constructorsrg.com/page3.html
- lol
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Bomber
Posted on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 09:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm talkin EZ Pull . . . . .. .

edited by bomber on May 20, 2004
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 11:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think the only way the EZ pull would work is if you traded the Blast clutch lever assembly with a Sportster assembly.The lever assembly on the HDs' are much more substantial.However the cable ends would have to be the same and you'd have to shim it down from the 1" bar size to 7/8" handlebar size.
I do not know what set up the XB9S uses (it is 7/8) so maybe EZ pull sells it for the XB series which would be make the switch easier?
Have you tried sending EZ pull an email?
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Bomber
Posted on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 01:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Gear . . . . .nossir, I've not . .. .be aware that EZ Pull works fin on tuber buells , so the bar dia isn't an issue. . . .. thanks for the input, I appreciate it
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 07:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bomber let us know how you make out.Knowing that they have a tuber Buell version is encouraging.
Not that the Blast needs it, but how sweet would a one finger clutch be?!
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 08:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've been thinking...How hard is it to have a billet copy made of a Blast rear pulley?I know someone did it!?
If we can get a heavy duty copy made of the 2000 Blast recall pulley we can change the gearing & even put on a wider belt.
There's probably 200 different ones available for the HDs.
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Bomber
Posted on Friday, May 21, 2004 - 09:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Gear -- I'm still chasin down the maufacturer . . . . . .btw, It's not a buell specific part . . .. it's a little thingie at fits onto the end of the clutch ramp lever, and works on sportsters too . . . .. . now, If I had a parts book for the blast, I could compare to the p/n of the clutch ramp for the MaDeuece . . . .. . . (grin)

I'll report my findings, if any . . . .if the phone don't ring, you'll no it's me
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Friday, May 21, 2004 - 11:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Clutch lever P# C0150.T
lever assem P# N0104.TA
clutch cable 38616-00YA
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Bomber
Posted on Friday, May 21, 2004 - 12:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

gear -- thanks a million . . .will check tonight and let ya know!
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 01:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anybody have any ideas on that Billet rear pulley.
Is it hard to CNC one?
Who had one?
Any reason why it wouldn't work?

edited by gearheaderiko on May 23, 2004
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Ezblast
Posted on Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 03:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Theres guys in Cali - I'll look it up today and and see what I find. Have you done a BADWEB search on the topic - good resource for such things!
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 07:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Have you done a Badweb search on the topic?"---Ouch!!!
The only thing that comes up is the comment you made about the guy who did one for his Blast and his Blast was sold on ebay,and short discussions on the complexity of changing to a twin rear set-up.
I know jack about the CNC possibilities but realize it would be easier to make an adapter plate than a toothed pulley,but changing the pulley to at least the recalled size(in beefy aluminum) would be easier and much less work.
Maybe my head injury is playing tricks on me but I dont remember anyone following up the actual cost and feasibility of such a machining.
Let us know what you find EZ, but it was not my intention for you to do the research (even though I know you are as obsessed as I), I was just hoping that somebody had already done it or was intimate with the CNC process.
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Ezblast
Posted on Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 08:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

People who could create a custom pulley - Banke, Crossroads, perhaps the guys at American Sport Bike know someone as well - I'd enquire - also Kosman Racing. PM, Carriage Works,XO PRODUX, RMD Billet, Billet Concepts, HP Machine, There are a ton of places still I haven't mentioned - some because they are wildly priced, and others I just don't know of yet - I'll put links in the thumper kv links to stuff you can't find here tonight - but if you have a custom machine shop near you - they could probably do a nice one on a cnc machine - maybe style it after the wheel itself!
Got Thump?! Just Blasting on the Dark side! EZ
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Ezblast
Posted on Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 08:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Links added!
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 11:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks EZ. I'm gonna wait & see if I get any more responses on this before I start calling these people.I'd rather have a lead on someone who has done it already.
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Desmo450
Posted on Tuesday, May 25, 2004 - 06:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Gearheaderiko,I'm new to this forum,but not new to racing or fabricating parts.

Now this is just my thought, but wouldn't a rear sprocket made from billet aluminum need to be tempered and heat treated for strength? And by the look of the standard pulley, it would have to be machined from one heck of a hunk of billet. Very costly proposition if you asked me. If I were to start making those parts, I'd probably charge at least $1k per unit. How many would you like me to make for you? -Joe D.
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Tuesday, May 25, 2004 - 07:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Welcome Joe D!
Well I figure they make them for twins with 3X the horsepower and they are nothing special to look at.
Since the bolts are nearer the outer edge of the pulley (than the twins) they wouldn't need to be that strong either.They seem to be making an awful lot of parts from aluminum lately that I would think would need a steel part.
But the question is.How much? One off parts can be expensive and it would have to be a beefier part I'll admit,but it does seem like everybody is turning out billet parts these days for HDs and not at sky high prices.Heck I've seen bare cyl heads at $500 each!Thanks for the response.

PS Nice Duck!


the answer is out there
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Ezblast
Posted on Tuesday, May 25, 2004 - 08:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Very nice Duc! Welcome!
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Road_thing
Posted on Tuesday, May 25, 2004 - 09:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I REALLY like that Duck!

r-t
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Sarodude
Posted on Tuesday, May 25, 2004 - 11:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Uh, ditto on that duck!

-Saro
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Woltz
Posted on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 02:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Help!
I'm looking to buy a Blast.
I have two for sale near me and I'd like to get some help making the choice.
A -- 2001
- - 750mi
- - some aftermarket mods(not sure which yet)
- - asking $2800
B -- 2003
- - 40mi
- - stock with a couple scratches from yard
- - asking $4000

Both are black
Which would you buy and what would you pay?
Thanks,
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Jprovo
Posted on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 03:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Woltz,

I'd buy the '01, and try for $2200-2500.
Blasts are so freakin reliable, save the money and buy a 2001.

James

edited by jprovo on May 26, 2004
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