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Ezblast
Posted on Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 05:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wonder how much junk falls into the average gas tank - lol
EZ
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Garlic_sauce
Posted on Monday, September 14, 2009 - 04:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anyone have the part number for the new PCV grommet? I searched but couldn't come up with it, also if I replace the grommet should I change the valve as well?(did they change that too?)
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Kmbuell
Posted on Monday, September 14, 2009 - 04:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thr rattle is most likely the anti-tip-over fuel valve. It's the thing with the hose attached to the top of the tank by the gas cap. It's supposed to rattle, there's a marble in there that closes the vent when you crash.
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Garlic_sauce
Posted on Monday, September 14, 2009 - 04:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Do you think that marble could be the rattle noise that has been driving me crazy since I got the bike! By the way, I got the part numbers: 17607-00Y & 17606-00YA Can anyone confirm if these are the new parts? Update: I found the parts by the numbers listed above on CHICAGOHARLEY.com according to them they were added to their inventory in 2007

(Message edited by garlic_sauce on September 14, 2009)
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Swampy
Posted on Monday, September 14, 2009 - 06:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Garlic_sauce, it is not a PVC Valve, it is only an elbow with a baffle to separate the oil from the vapor, sort of like a filter.

The grommet is the same as to other XB engines. I have replaced a couple in the last couple of years, they were cheap, I think less than $2.00
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Garlic_sauce
Posted on Monday, September 14, 2009 - 08:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OK thanks Swampy, I have only ever heard them called PCV valves. I guess you would call it a crank case breather? Anyway I ordered the new set up with the incorporated O-ring so hopefully It functions better than the 2001 grommet.
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Monday, September 14, 2009 - 11:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The PCV is unchanged since 2000 and is called a PCV (per at least the parts manual) and thats what it is. Except on start up, its always positive flow.
The grommet was updated somewhere between 2003-2005.
2009 Blast parts manual lists the addition of an umbrella check valve (pt# 26856-89A) and I haven't seen one so I dont know how it would be installed and the 2009 Lightning parts manual doesnt list it. Of course the parts manual could be wrong and does anybody know if they updated the 2009 service manual?

While I rarely disagree with Swampy, I'd say its more of a disagreement of semantics. It is important to know what its called in the parts manual though.


PS concur on the rollover valve tank rattle. Is it the rattle you always hear? I dont think so. You can remove it if desired, just try not to drop it in the tank if you do: )
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Gbaz
Posted on Tuesday, September 15, 2009 - 03:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Finally found a real replacement for my blast. just picked up a 2000 Aprilia Pegaso. 650 cc water cooled single dual sport : )
It needs a bit of tlc, but I think im going to like it : ) Still have my xb9r, but was really missing the blast...
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Ezblast
Posted on Tuesday, September 15, 2009 - 06:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is that the Cali bike? In the Bay area?
EZ
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Gbaz
Posted on Tuesday, September 15, 2009 - 08:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The peg? I'm down in new Orleans as is the bike.
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Ezblast
Posted on Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 09:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cool! Congrats on a cool bike!
EZ
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Imadreadhead
Posted on Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 02:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey guys I have a Vapor Unit and Dash up for Sale...the unit is $125 and the Dash is $40...I'm asking $80 shipped!

I have everything to go with the unit execpt the magnet that goes on the rotor to detect speed...but it should be a $5 from www.trailtech.com

Also if you go to that website it will show you everything you need to know.

It also has the sparkplug ring to show engine temp!

Email me at imadreadead@gmail.com

And I can send pics...I also have some listed here in the phot section a few months back.

I literally had it on for about 10 miles before I sold the bike...and it works great!

Tach works..speed works

Amazing

(Message edited by imadreadhead on September 16, 2009)
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Awf_hand
Posted on Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 04:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Second on GHEriko. The unit is a PCV. I've cracked mine open (the old one, after replacement) and there is a flow check inside which only allows one-way passage of crankcase air.
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Rainman
Posted on Thursday, September 17, 2009 - 09:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OK guys, you're pretty smart. I've been reading the other forums for Uly, XB and 1125r and it seems like everyone has EFI issues and resets and ECU issues that create bizarre fuelling conditions and surges and stuff.

I've never owned an EFI bike, having a carbed Cb350, XL1200, GL1100A and P3. My dad's C-50T zuki is carbed and no issues. Same with my bro's yammie V-Star 650.

Are there more issues with EFI? Is it just harder to sort out? Are people just picky and perhaps the burps and coughs my Blast occassionally belches are no big deal for me but would be major issues for someone?

It seems like EFI is just a pain in the asterisk.
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Damnut
Posted on Thursday, September 17, 2009 - 10:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have an older XB12R and have had no issues with my EFI. Although I do get the burp through the EFI ever once in a while, it doesn't bother me but it may be a major issue with someone else.
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Ezblast
Posted on Thursday, September 17, 2009 - 11:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So far everything is smooth on the CR.
EZ
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Crackhead
Posted on Thursday, September 17, 2009 - 02:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I joining EZ in the land of owning multiple Blasts.
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Ezblast
Posted on Thursday, September 17, 2009 - 03:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And Erik O, and Swampy, and others - lol - welcome to the Club!
EZ
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Rainman
Posted on Thursday, September 17, 2009 - 03:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, tell us more....
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Crackhead
Posted on Thursday, September 17, 2009 - 04:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

it has a 515 kit in it and the owner had the bike running for 5 hrs and then it stopped. he says it wounds like low compression. i am trying to pic it up tonight and check the bike out next weekend.
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Tortoise
Posted on Thursday, September 17, 2009 - 06:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm never getting the 515 kit. It sounds like nothing but trouble.

Crackhead: What year is it? Did you get a good deal? There seem to be a lot of good deals on used bikes right now.
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Thursday, September 17, 2009 - 08:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes, the 515 kit....really makes me wonder about the "bolts right on" capability and reliability of the 600 kit. I certainly wouldnt recommend the 515 and you're not really gaining much displacement and the benefit is more from the high compression piston (which in stock overbores doesnt seem to be a problem).
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Thursday, September 17, 2009 - 09:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As far as EFI-truly a superior system to a carb and you'd think after 40+years of using fuel injection they'd be foolproof. I think part of the problem may be, as with carbs, is getting them to be EPA and fuel efficient (but thats my opinion).

I will say that when I had the choice between EFI and a carb, I went with the carb. I tend to keep things a long time (longer than the dealer stocks parts) and I know I'll always be able to find quickly a replacement carb or parts and it'll be a quick fix. If the EFI leaves me stranded, it may be a hassle getting it diagnosed and fixed.
But it does come from my attitude about wanting to be able to ride to the middle of nowhere and if I break down there'll be a minimum of problems getting back on the road. Simplicity is why I like air cooled motorcycles!
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, September 17, 2009 - 10:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

I think part of the problem may be, as with carbs, is getting them to be EPA and fuel efficient (but thats my opinion).




Bingo. It is a delicate balancing act, and it gets trickier as requirements tighten up, but then new technologies emerge to help get around it like Direct Injection, HCCI, Turbos, and so on. : )
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, September 17, 2009 - 10:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Related question, on carbed motorcycles, specifically the Cube, when you hit the kill switch, what does it disable? Gas flow? Spark?
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Friday, September 18, 2009 - 01:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Power to the ignition module. (spark)
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Gbaz
Posted on Friday, September 18, 2009 - 07:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The cube has 2 carbs...
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Froggy
Posted on Friday, September 18, 2009 - 10:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok, that explains the loud bang last night after I accidentally hit the kill switch trying adjust my mirrors on the highway. The moment I turned it back to on, *BANG*

Ooops! : D
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Friday, September 18, 2009 - 12:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The cube has 2 carbs...
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Ezblast
Posted on Friday, September 18, 2009 - 01:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

LOL
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