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Swampy
Posted on Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 08:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

$115? Where did you get them from?

That is a great price for both of them
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Xgecko
Posted on Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 01:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

American Moto Tire has them for $102 before shipping...for me shipping is $20 ground still a goond deal though I'll have to pay for spooning on
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Swampy
Posted on Friday, September 21, 2007 - 09:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That is funny because I have been to that website before, but I forgot that the AM63 is in the Scooter Tire section!
Yep, that looks like they have the best price.
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Nevets
Posted on Friday, September 21, 2007 - 10:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I got them from chaparral. Shipping was free.
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Swampy
Posted on Saturday, September 22, 2007 - 10:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When I get them from Chaparral, I have to pay $7 for shipping because I live three quarters away across the country!

Jugallo94 has two rear Vyper Strykes sitting at my house waiting to go on, the one he ordered from Dennis Kirk was dropshipped the next day for regular price and the Chapparral came more than a week later after being on backorder for almost a month!
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Medic24
Posted on Saturday, September 22, 2007 - 06:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What are my options for a rear tire? What have you all found to be the best for the blast. And where did you purchase them? Thanks in advance.
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Slowhand96
Posted on Saturday, September 22, 2007 - 10:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Medic

This has been discussed at great length within this section. It depends on what you want the tires to do and your riding style. My best advice to you is to do a search and or just look through the archives of this area. At the very least let us know what is important in a tire you you so we are better able to recommend something to you.

Welcome to the Thumper Forum!!
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Mar_wilmington
Posted on Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 01:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If your an aggressive rider I'd go with the Avon VyperStrykes AM63 at 140/70-16 and modify the shock mounting tab or you could go stock size so you don't have to modify anything (but it's an easy mod plus the 140/70 makes the bike A LOT MORE STABLE at speed and in corners). I've only put 350 miles on mine so far but I'm in love thanks to the changes in the agility and control of the bike.

The Pirelli MT75's are also pretty sticky, cheaply priced for the quality and an overall good tire. There is some debate about the short lifespan though (some ppl have squeezed out 4,ooo miles+)

Avon Roadrider AM26's are another less tested choice that has just come out. They're expensive but from early reviews have a good lifespan and are also V rated if that matters for you (IMHO P rated is plenty on the Blast)


Good places to compare & shop:
American Moto Tire
Chaparral
Dennis Kirk

Those are the choices I was looking at before I picked the AM63's. I'm sure there are a bunch of others but from my reading those best suited my needs and style. Hope it helps.
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Buuueller
Posted on Tuesday, January 01, 2008 - 01:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Good places to compare & shop:"
Just an FYI, I tried to find Avons 140/70/16 and 110/70/16 locally and everyone said they (Avon) were back ordered. American Moto Tire was also out of stock.

But I found them at Chaparral for $114 and shipped free. It only took 4 days (including Christmas) to get here.

Boy, what a nice upgrade.
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Swampy
Posted on Tuesday, January 01, 2008 - 04:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All I have to say about that is this:


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Krid80
Posted on Tuesday, January 01, 2008 - 07:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

agreed. great upgrade. avon likely isn't backordered but parts unlimited (main wholesaler to dealers) may be.
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Buuueller
Posted on Wednesday, January 02, 2008 - 12:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

True true...

The bike def feels more confident now. The front requires a bit more input but the outcome is a more stable feel. I love the way they keep wanting to lean over almost like their asking for more.

The rear almost feels like it tracks out in turns more than before but its very predictable.

happy happy
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Berkshire
Posted on Thursday, April 24, 2008 - 05:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anybody feel up to taking some measurements of the Vyper Stryke 140/70 rear? I'm trying to gather info on the actual shape of various tires when mounted - see the "Wider Wheels" thread in this forum for info on which measurements are needed.
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Ezblast
Posted on Thursday, April 24, 2008 - 05:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I did a measurement - remember - here's a copy from a 1/2 used Pirelli vs 100 mile Viperstrike

Ok - I did a rough measure - v vs p - 128.78/121.28 rr and 105.14/102.60fr and clearance from swing arm to tire is 0.309.

Then your going to love the Avon!
ez
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Berkshire
Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 - 03:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes, I remembered that post, and I assumed you'd measured the 128.8mm width with the same technique I was using (or close enough), but what I don't have is the distance from edge to edge across the face of the tire (see "1-2-3-4" graphic in "wider wheels" thread). The trouble is that that distance gets shorter as the tire wears, so it would need to come from a new tire to get an accurate comparison.

The swingarm clearance measurement is useful (gotta have clearance!), but without some other measurements it doesn't reveal the profile of the tread area. Also, it's a tricky thing to measure consistently - especially with different people doing the measuring, and on different swingarms that may or may not have been "clearance enhanced" with a big frakkin' hammer!

and yes, I AM a BSG fan!
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Berkshire
Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2008 - 07:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ed, did you look at the measurement technique in the "wider wheels" thread? The 128.78mm doesn't tell the full story - the other measurement is needed as well.

...unfortunately, that other measurement needs to come from a new tire - it decreases as the tire wears. Anybody out there with a new or low mileage viper strike in the 140/70 size?

Also, a pic showing straightedge from sprocket to tangent point on tire would be nice - look in Michelin thread for an example.

(Message edited by berkshire on May 15, 2008)
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Kmbuell
Posted on Tuesday, May 27, 2008 - 04:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Does anyone know what's up with the Avons?
Chapparrel canceled my back order after almost 90 days because they have no idea when the rears will become available?
Thanks for the help!
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Aaomy
Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2008 - 02:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

could some one with the am63 tires post some picks. i would love to see a set on a blast. will the 140-70-16 work with the stock rear "hugger" fender on? how close does this come to the swing arm (picks if possible).. many thanks aaron
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Swampy
Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2008 - 06:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Aanomy,

Here are some pictures of one of Ezblasts Blasts with the larger Avon tires on them.

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/201 64/217609.html?1154281015

And yes, the rear hugger fits just fine, but the shock absorber lower mounting tab has to be adjusted so it is clear of the tire. The adjustment can be performed with the help of a large hammer.
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Aaomy
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2008 - 10:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

my bike currently has the avon 51s and 52s i believe,, they are getting worn, front 1/2 way, rear almost touching wear bars..
the rear wanted to wash out cornering in the rain the other day.. had to drag boot to keep her up.
does the am 63's provide more grip than the 51-52 combo? wet? dry?
if not any other tyre recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
will probably stick with stock size as i enjoy the twisties..
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Xgecko
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2008 - 12:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

my 63 experience is with the big ones but yes they provide better grip wet or dry but especially cold, I have ridden through the past 2 winters, the first on 1-2 month old 51/52's this last winter on 6 month old 63's and there is no question in my mind I prefer'd the 63's even past the wear bar I had none of the dancing around that the 51/52 have when cold. Plus I got nearly 9K miles on my 63 rear, front will likely need replacing at 13-14K. As for size I have no issues with running the big tires in the twisties and CT isn't exactly known for straight roads (most are just paved cow paths lined with 200 year old rock walls) the bigger rear makes turn in a bit quicker but a bit more stable once you are leaned over IMO. My only slippery wet riding happens on a steep uphill offcamber right hander that I take too tight and hit the painted stripe next to the shoulder... otherwise I haven't had any issues with the 63's though I am glad to have a new rear
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2008 - 07:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pirelli's sticky, wear quickly. Avons not as sticky (when cold), better for tread mileage.
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Thumpe
Posted on Friday, June 13, 2008 - 05:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Do you guys run the same air pressures F&R with the big 63's? I have a set on the way!
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Ezblast
Posted on Friday, June 13, 2008 - 11:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have always run the Track day 30.5 F&R, this will not promote long life, but it aids cornering and handling.
EZ
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Aaomy
Posted on Friday, June 13, 2008 - 12:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ezblast... how many miles on your set of am63's?
how are yours holding up?
pros, cons???
will probably order a set.. now trying to decide stock or the over sized.
any one running a over sized rear with a stock front???
many thanks,, aaron
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Ezblast
Posted on Friday, June 13, 2008 - 01:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm getting a little over 3500 which is 1500 more than the Pirelli gave me, however, as noted above - I run a lower pressure than the recommended to improve my fun factor - lol - don't mix size combos, it will screw with your handling. The oversize speed up handling imput - so it depends how you feel about your bikes current handling ability - I like them a lot.
EZ
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Thumpe
Posted on Friday, June 13, 2008 - 01:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

EZ I'm just using them for the street i'm looking to get long life out of them! But lol the way i drive i'll uses them up!! You run the same pressures for the street?
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Buuueller
Posted on Friday, June 13, 2008 - 03:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Be gentle on downshifts. With the light weight and the strong compression of the Thumper engine, downshifts tend to skid the rear a little (speeding up the wear).

I loved the sound of mine when doing hard downshifts but I quickly noticed that is sure wore the rear out fast.
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Ezblast
Posted on Friday, June 13, 2008 - 03:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yuppers - I figure I loose almost a quarter of their life compared to other folks, but its worth it to me - I live in the land of twisties - it behooves me to take full advantage of that - lol - the average I've seen through the boards is 4000 to 5000+
EZ
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Thumpe
Posted on Friday, June 13, 2008 - 06:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

EZ do you use the same air pressures F&R for track day and for the street? With the big 63's
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