| Author | Message | ||
     Gearheaderiko |
Just for the sake of the archives: After installing a Screaming Eagle adjustable ignition in the Blast it wouldn't start (it would run, but was very difficult to start). Although the battery was on its last legs,it would start fine with the stock module. Installed a good battery and it fired right up. The conclusion is the SE ignition draws more current than the stock module and if the battery is NG then you'll have problems (the SE instructions do note to be sure the wiring is up to snuff). We did have the same hard start problem with the racebike, but I wasn't able to verify the old battery as being a direct cause until now. 3/3/07 I wont retract the above statement, but it seems that SE ignition module was defective and although the circumstances pointed directly to the forgone conclusion, the module is defective so I dont think it can hold much merit. The conclusion might be the same, but I dont have reliable evidence anymore. (Message edited by gearheaderiko on March 03, 2007) | ||
| Kdkgrizz |
Do you know the P/N of the SE Ignition Module?? | ||
| Ezblast |
Read above section | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
32942-02 | ||
| Ezblast |
Do you think the ignition is drawing .4 volts off the top for a 12.8 charging vs a 13.2 that is stock? GT - JBOTDS! EZ  | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
No! Regrettably I dont have the time to check charging specs (on the bike) for you. | ||
| Bhawk |
Wasup Gear, just a quik quest.lookin for the cat whos been throo 2 or more Ign. mods.on the blast hope its good fer ya | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
Bhawk, I'm completely confused  I think Swampy's been through a couple ignition modules and I've been through a few on different bikes. Whats the question? (Message edited by gearheaderiko on March 07, 2007) | ||
| Swampy |
I replaced one on the Big Kids Blast a while back. It was the module that was acting up, cutting out, backfiring, loosing power, then over time finally quitting only to restart when I got there to rescue it! | ||
| Joey |
Is that the one you sent me? | ||
| Swampy |
Yup! | ||
| Joey |
One of the three wires on the hall-effect sensor was broken. | ||
| Bhawk |
Gear,heregoes.the B had set for a couple of years,at about 700 mi.<got> she started to act up,wound up bein the mod. anyway,at about what point will it fail again<shes>given its location near all that heat,your best SWAG please. thanks | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
Maybe never. It seems that the early years (2000-2001) were more prone to failure (my observations). It may never fail again. Seriously. There is no reason to suspect it will fail again unless you purchased an old stock module or a related problem causes early failure (loose wires, shorts, etc). | ||
| Swampy |
Dang! Joey, thats cool that you could figure that out! You must be some sort of electrical genuis, I should have paid more attention to that stuff in school! How did you figure it out? I hope you can use it for the cause.... | ||
| Ezblast |
Concur! | ||
| Joey |
I had to take all that rubbery crap they put in there first. I sucked the solder off the 3 pins that connected to the hall-effect sensor. I then had to break the plastic apart to get it separated. The hall-effect sensor had 3 wires, but part of one was still in the circuit board.  I should be able to solder a wire to it, and make it work. Oh--I got my PIC programmer yesterday, so now I'm ready to start testing code! Woohoo! | ||
| Creepingmee |
help!!! I just installed a crane hi-4 in my 2001 blast. The bike runs, but runs poorly and has an erratic idle. Anyone help with this? I was under the impression that it was the same as the pro series!?! maybe someone could help me that has a pro series as I don't have the docs for the blast just the ones that came from crane and they don't mention the blast. thanks -Marc | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
I can email you the docs for the SE ignition. Does it have the switch for single or twin mode (or does it say in the instructions what to turn the mode switch to)? Is the timing cup tight? Are the auto enrichner and TPS wires hooked up? You might want to try disconnecting them (from the carb) and see if the problem goes away. The advance curve switch can make a difference, but not much. Is the timing correct? I had erratic idle problems with mine and I believe EZ also had the same type of problems with his(?). It turned out to be the timing cup for me. Have you changed anything else besides the ignition? | ||
| Creepingmee |
Please email me the docs for the se ignition. From what I understand, the crane hi-4 is the same as the SE?!?! It has the 4 rotary switches for mode, curve, rpm limit X1000, rpm limit X100. I wired the enrichener to ground so that the heating element would work. I have checked and set the timing all over the place in an effort to get the bike running well. It runs it just runs like crap.. No matter where I set the timing. It works with the factory ign. fine. But when it gets hot the factory module quits. Then when the bike cools it runs fine again. I bought the crane to replace it and now it won't quit when hot like the factory one, but it just runs poorly. thanks for any info you can give me. -Marc | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
Marc, please pm me your email address! (hidden in your profile) | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
Did the heating element not work when the ignition was hooked up without the ground? | ||
| Ezblast |
Make sure your charging system is up to snuff and your battery is good, the SE/Crane does draw more juice than stock, my experience currently when I compare my two bikes. Also - does it idle fine when warmed up - say after a 1/2 hr riding? I didn't touch the carb TPS at all and the only effect I got from that is that it shuts off too early and I have to keep its idle at 1000 for its first 15 min. on and riding when at idle. If stock head gear, then 6500rpm would be where to set your RPMs, 5 for the curve setting, I think its two for the mode - that should cover it. Timming set static just the same as stock. If your going to do a custom curve, you'll have to have their software and cord to hook it up to the laptop - they sell it. GT - JBOTDS! EZ | ||
| Ezblast |
Usefull link - http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/201 64/24366.html?1061758974 | ||
| Creepingmee |
It always runs poorly no matter how long it's running. The heating element is grounded by the stock mod. and cannot work without that ground. Mode 2 according to the docs are for single fire mode!?! It won't run at all in mode 2. It dosn't matter where I set the curve it always runs bad. THIS SUX! | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
Not sure how you grounded the heating element, but I'd disconnect it and see what happens. I am curious to know if the SE ignition does indeed disable the auto enrichener. The instructions say nothing about it and I never checked. I do know the TPS acts a little funky (as EZ stated) so we disconnected it. | ||
| Creepingmee |
Thanks for the SE docs gearheaderiko, it is def. not the same module and the crane. They look the same but the 2 have all different wires and maps... I think i screwed up buying the crane. Damn.... -Marc | ||
| Creepingmee |
Thanks EZ, Gearheaderiko, Ralph, and anyone else who helped me. The old version of the hi-4 is the same as the screamin eagle, however the current ones are NOT the same at all. I had to cut a 2nd notch in the timing rotor to tell the mod. that I was running at the correct RPM. Otherwise it thinks I'm turning 1/2 the RPM that I am. That was causing my problem. IT also helps to jumper the auto choke to ground and hook up a VOES as the new one will not accept the TPS on the blast. However if you do those things IT works just fine after that. Thanks again everyone and if ever someone has a future question on hooking up a hi-4 to a blast let me know I'll help if I can. -Marc | ||
| Ezblast |
Done! | ||
| Ezblast |
Where did you cut the second hole - you only want the last 4 curves programed - 5-8. 5 being close to stock and progressive from there. GT - JBOTDS! EZ (Message edited by ezblast on March 21, 2007) |
