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Cvc
| | Posted on Sunday, August 16, 2020 - 04:59 pm: | 
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I know it is an old post but the link is good and those tires are on sale for $32.01 might be fun fr fire roads and sh!#y city streets |
Gearheaderiko
| | Posted on Sunday, August 16, 2020 - 07:59 pm: |
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Thumbs up!! |
Ezblast
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 09, 2020 - 07:12 pm: |
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https://www.summitracing.com/parts/PMR-2772400?sei d=srese1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw-uH6BRDQARIsAI3I-UfmwLVANF7 0MM3k6XzAKhWotpQrTSEfw51Yp8t_8XlBfqm42kVjjQgaAj9FE ALw_wcB
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/PMR-2770800?sei d=srese1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw-uH6BRDQARIsAI3I-UfOelKJVIQ vN8GVRJDL6WfJ50UmuDOEvhE5WZ5AtPggdvd7W4h8hW0aAv0GE ALw_wcB
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Apotheon
| | Posted on Saturday, September 26, 2020 - 11:46 am: |
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I have a pretty new (street) front tire on my Blast, but the back tire is wearing down, so I want to keep using the front tire for a while. I also want to switch to dual-sport tires, in part because of some dirt roads I want to ride. Is there any safety reason I shouldn't switch the rear to a dual-sport tire and keep the street front tire until it has worn down? If that means putting off riding on dirt roads, I'll live with it. I have other things to do before I take it on the dirt roads, anyway. |
Missionbolts
| | Posted on Saturday, September 26, 2020 - 01:32 pm: |
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Apotheon - The most important factor will be going around corners at too high a speed for the front tire. Sometimes, a dirt road will throw a surprise decreasing radius at you. It might be a fallen boulder just out of sight around a corner, or just the way the road was cut. You will also need to adjust your overall riding style to a much slower pace than if you change out the front to match. It's a lot like driving a car in snow. Feels easy when you're going straight, but corners become drastically dangerous without warning. You can do that combo & get away with it. You just need to be prepared to ride slower. 1st day I rode my Blast, had a good sport tire on the front with a worn out sport tire on the rear. Just getting it out of the backyard onto the driveway involved planting the bike on it's side twice in a row as I was riding on damp grass. Had to reset the shifter and dig chunks out of the handlebar controls. Then I rode out of the backyard like I was on black ice and it wasn't so bad. Once I was on pavement, it was ok to ride normal. On dry dirt was more predictable, but the front was still washing out if I pushed it just a little. Really feels nice to ride home with a sore heel from putting my foot down hard enough to keep the bike from wiping out! I bought dual-sport tires as soon as I was able to and saw no loss of traction on dry pavement, just an increase in noise due to the larger air pockets |
Apotheon
| | Posted on Saturday, September 26, 2020 - 07:36 pm: |
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Thanks. I'm probably not taking it out on dirt while I have the street tire on the front, but maybe I'll get bold and try it. The places I'd ride on dirt at this point, there aren't any blind turns -- it's all pretty flat-ish territory. It's just dirt roads (that haven't been graded recently). I usually use my pickup there.
It looks like I'm picking up the new tires (same kind you have) on Tuesday, and will (figuratively) sit on one of them until I wear down the front just having fun putting miles on the bike, then swap in the second 244.
It looks like these tires are getting rare. If not for it getting harder to find places that can get them, I'd have just gotten one for now. |
Missionbolts
| | Posted on Saturday, September 26, 2020 - 09:08 pm: |
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I've never seen a 244 locally. I just mail order them through the post office. They leave me an oversize notice, and bring me my tire at the counter |
Apotheon
| | Posted on Sunday, September 27, 2020 - 10:53 am: |
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I looked around online (including places linked on badweb) and some have them in this size, but some don't. It kinda looks like they're getting harder to find, but maybe I'm just not good at searching for them. Anyway, it's both cheaper and faster to drive an hour to pick them up than to pay for shipping. |
Missionbolts
| | Posted on Sunday, September 27, 2020 - 11:16 am: |
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Well, if you have a local source that works better, then by all means use that!
I look on ebay 1st, before looking at any other vendor. I have yet to see a decline in 244's on ebay. Even if I limit that to any under $70 with shipping, there's always been plenty
If I can wait on the shipping time, then I can focus on other projects. I just changed out the rear last month. It still had about 30% left in the center, but there were a couple plugs in the sidewall that I didn't like. While the tire was shipping, I put another 100 miles on the old tire |
Apotheon
| | Posted on Saturday, October 03, 2020 - 01:10 pm: |
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Hey, Missionbolts, I have a question:
How the heck does a 3.00 tire fit on the rear wheel of a Blast? That's a big wheel, relative to a tire that size. It looks more like a 4.00. |
Missionbolts
| | Posted on Saturday, October 03, 2020 - 02:26 pm: |
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I think the rear can run 4.5". A 3" on the rear swingarm leaves plenty of room from the front of the tire to the inside of the swingarm. Plus plenty of room on all sides. The tire weighs less than OEM & has a lot less rolling resistance. So acceleration will pick up a notch and handling will be much better at following dips & bumps on pavement. On dry pavement, traction & grip is pretty impressive considering how much less contact area there is. I think the compound is softer, so the tire will wear faster. The rear will wear twice as fast as the front. I recommend rotating the tires when the rear reaches 50~60% Something about rotating tires on a motorcycle just seems appropriate for a Blastard!
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Missionbolts
| | Posted on Saturday, October 03, 2020 - 02:28 pm: |
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ps - rim width is the exact same front & rear. Was that what you were addressing? |
Apotheon
| | Posted on Saturday, October 03, 2020 - 03:08 pm: |
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Yeah, I was talking about rim width. Unfortunately, I'm not near the bike right now, so I can't check it myself, but the person who has it in his garage right now (I don't have tools for changing tires) is telling me it's a wider rim. I'm beginning to feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone. |
Missionbolts
| | Posted on Saturday, October 03, 2020 - 03:36 pm: |
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I'm running bone stock everything except for whatever I've mentioned elsewhere having changed. This will be: tires, home made speed sensor, rear turn signals replaced with home made LED units that are snag-resistant, hacking the stock muffler and a 'Very Q&D' fix on the starters control wire
So maybe the rear was a wider width and I just didn't have any issue with that? But, the 3" tire sits on the rim the same way as the front
Maybe your mechanic is telling you the rear rim is wider simply because he thinks it has to be?
Ok, I'm measuring what I have: 6" caliper inside the rim, measuring the outside width of both rims. Front = 3.25"/Rear = 3.53"
So I was wrong about the rim width's, but it's not that big a deal. I do remember using a ratchet strap, wrapped around the rear tire, in order for both beads to get enough of a seal to pop into place. But for me, that's not a detail worth worrying about. Out in the forest, I would fix a flat without removing the tire, using a plug kit & CO2 cartridges. I've also aired up dirtbike tires with a propane plumbing torch I was using for a chili can heater |
Apotheon
| | Posted on Sunday, October 04, 2020 - 03:18 am: |
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I went to look at the bike myself, and the wheels were pretty nearly the same width to a close (but not caliper) inspection -- less than half an inch, which is less of a difference than I'd been led to expect. That aligns with what you just told me.
Thanks for all the info. I should have it up and running in a day or so, I think. |
Missionbolts
| | Posted on Sunday, October 04, 2020 - 10:27 am: |
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It doesn't hurt to double check things once in a while. I was a bit surprised I had forgotten about the rim widths. But the tires look the same on front & rear, a quarter-inch difference is hard to call by eye! |
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