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Jeromius
Posted on Monday, February 24, 2003 - 03:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm inspired to do some crazy stuff to my Blast now - EZ, you've raised the bar!

But the question is - what's next?
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Ezblast
Posted on Monday, February 24, 2003 - 09:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ST universal 3" w/ 17 disc's can, Dakota dig. speedo/tach., s-1 single rear, Penski shock and works front springs, and alot of black powdercoating. Then when the motor gets tired it goes to Nallin for 'Blessing'. Quicksilver double pumper still weighs heavily in the back of my mind. Then there's the idea of a hard tale Blast I'm researching - lol - Its always something, Just Blasting on the Dark side! EZ
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Aaron
Posted on Monday, February 24, 2003 - 10:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That's awesome Ed!
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Ltlboybuell
Posted on Tuesday, February 25, 2003 - 06:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ed, just a P.S. but the tech that did my 515 said he thought I might make out better with 8-10 discs on the White Brothers. It's running all 12 now. Just thought I'd pass it along, no dyno time until April :(

Rich
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Ezblast
Posted on Tuesday, February 25, 2003 - 08:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Check out the exhaust section here in the regular kv- exhaust section under the supertrapp exhaust. First point of refference. Past experience on VW's w short dual ST, and recomends from single dirt racers - 16 to 21 discs is the recomended. Bro your running the WB - its a diff. set up - diff. header size - and much quieter than my future set up(or current) even with all the discs put on. WB are racers - I'd ask them what they sugest for their set up. The ST has a choice of packing - street or track - gee I wonder which I'll choose ;0)- lol- Just Blasting on the Dark side! EZ
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Ltlboybuell
Posted on Tuesday, February 25, 2003 - 10:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ahh, very informative. Shoulda been obvious that there would be basic material differences. My mistake.

I gotta tell you though, the discs with the newer high comp set-up has a nice 'snap' to it, if only the weather would break. Back down to the single digits tonight. Think I'll be ordering a Givi and look up some goodies from Xroads. The point cover is a must, don't feel like prying the stocker off everytime I wanna tweak the ignition (yeah right, it just looks good :) )
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Ezblast
Posted on Tuesday, February 25, 2003 - 10:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cool - I just got myself one of the new stock metal ones - replacing the plastic - going to take the paint off and engrave something significant onto it, you guys are very lucky to have a snow season to have time to dial in your rides - here in Cali. its always riding time and if your down your loosing riding time - thats why its taken me so long to do the things I've done - rather be riding - ya know. Hey the WB set up is one of the best - I'm just riding down that different road - ;0) Enjoy your down time - by the time you hit the road you'll be ready;0) Just Blasting on the Dark side! EZ
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Ralphthe3rd
Posted on Tuesday, February 25, 2003 - 01:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Speaking of covers and removing paint. I've had an idea ever since the '03 models came with that primary chaincase "metal" inspection cover. My idea is to buy the aluminum cover and remove the paint with chemicals or sanding. And also do the same to the clutch "Lump" on the primary. Just a circle plate area that goes no further than the clutch cable entry. I'd either brush the aluminum or sand and polish. Giving the area a polished derby cover look. What do ya think, sound cool ? I guess it would look(show off) best with rearsets. But that's an idea I have...so far I've never seen Any Blast have that done. Have you?
I guess Ed wouldn't like that as he likes the Color Black too much. BTW, as an aside to EdZ new Look-Vader... ya know, to me it looks more like the BatMobile than anything from StarWars....?
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Ezblast
Posted on Tuesday, February 25, 2003 - 10:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yea Yea - and you want to play Robin - snow must be getting to ya buddy - ;0)lol .I learned something very usefull today on the dyno - if you modify the air box, and run the K&N and do those few other details - reroute breathers, etc. you'll be breathing at close to 90% of a stack. Brought my jetting back down to what it left the shop with - lol - live and learn. Now I'm not disapointed - just suprised at how well the stock set up can be modified to breath and yes I miss the echo, yet I like the new sounds - the clear song of the engine - sweet and strong, so far the mounting seems solid - bracing that is for the carb. The look is very clean and I always remember to bring a ziploc baggy for the stack for parking - lol - Just Blasting on the Dark side! EZ
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Joey
Posted on Wednesday, February 26, 2003 - 06:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

EZ! Let me get this straight. You are complaining because you have to choose to modify instead of to ride on any given day? You believe those of us who are snow bound are in a better situation because we have lots of time to modify because we can't choose to ride? You think that's a good thing? Are you on drugs? Give me some!

There's a metal ignition cover? What's it cost? Do auto parts places have the 10R12 spark plug, or do I have to go to a HD/B place?
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Ezblast
Posted on Wednesday, February 26, 2003 - 08:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No complaints - but thats the reason your bikes always look nicer than the Cali. bikes. yes for 10r12 or get the NJK equiv. most anywhere. same w/ cover. Just Blasting on the Dark side! EZ
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Ralphthe3rd
Posted on Wednesday, February 26, 2003 - 02:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ed, ok you say your short(stub) stack flows 90% what a modified airbox does? Well that can't be good. I think you need to tune the stack. You know- with a longer flared bell "Velocity" stack. I think you actually lost some power by going to such a short "stub" stack. Weren't those stacks originally designed to be used INSIDE some type of airbox ? I never said anything B4, but I've seen alot of stacked carbs...and they all had a bit more stack that was flared out more. I think it would increase velocity like a Ram if you had an inch or two more(real) stack. Just a thought...
Also... since your B50 cams are on the mild side, I don't think they are opening the valves long enough to grab that Big a GULP of Air/fuel ? I dunno, just thinkin aloud.
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Ezblast
Posted on Wednesday, February 26, 2003 - 02:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ralph - you got that backwards bro - a very modified airbox/filter combo. will run about 90% of what the stack does. My cam is'nt that mild - just not a racers - lol - and I hear the gulp just fine;0) - I was just too rich because I rejetted when it wasn't nescesary - my bad, but a learning experience for everyone else. Just Blasting on the Dark side! EZ
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Ralphthe3rd
Posted on Thursday, February 27, 2003 - 02:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ed, My Bad too ! I did mean 90% the other way around- YEAh, that REALLY would have been Bad , ~LOL~ Yikes !
Ya know , I never really wanted to show my dumbness and ask. But I'm gonna now. I read and re-read the original airbox mods your described a long time ago, but can't for the life of me figure out what part you cut out ? If it's the wall I think it is, I can't really see where sucking more air off one side of the air filter does any better? Also, if it IS the wall I'm thinking of. That is also there for support-isn't it? My airbox doesn't exactly fit together perfectly as is...but I think it would start to warp even worse with that support wall webbing romoved. Oh Hell, I maybe totally off track here and you mean something else. Could you just describe what area(s?) you cut out and spell it out like you were tellin a six yr old...Thanks Dad !
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Ezblast
Posted on Thursday, February 27, 2003 - 02:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you look to where your air filter mounts you'll see a small bugle/venturi sticking out the other end. This gets cut off and the hole widened to the edge of the filter mounting point, all breather stuff is rerouted out of box(at least turn breather spigot directly away from carb), finally the optional step (done by cheating car racers everywhere) take a 1/16 drill and drill your k&n filter - without piercing to the inside at random 1" intervals - take a lighter to any loose threads the bit pulls out. The idea is to create even more ease of air flow without totally defeating the purpose of the filter. The most important parts are cutting the venturi off and widening the hole and using a K&N filter, AND TURNING THE SPIGOT 180 AWAY FROM CARB. You'll be breathing like a champ and the new echo is way cool. Just Blasting on the Dark side! EZ
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Ralphthe3rd
Posted on Thursday, February 27, 2003 - 06:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OH ! Okay, I understand now (although 8 months ago when I read it I didn't). I had already mounted an external oil breather a year ago...so thats already been taken care of. And the air horn removal and widening of the hole makes perfect sense as that is the smallest restriction. I had actually looked at that and thought about doing that, but figured it wouldn't be widening the hole very much before the inside rubber edge of the filter element was the restriction. (Btw- You really don't wanna know what I WAS thinking about... which made No sense, but that was the reason i finally asked). Yeah, I'll open her up that extra bit...but I'm not gonna drill holes in my $50 K&N Filter ! Besides, too much air will mean I'll need to rejet again...and I don't wanna lose any more MPG's. Not on this ride :-)
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Jimalexander
Posted on Friday, February 28, 2003 - 11:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

After reading this comprehensive article and seeing the viscosity test results between Castrol and the various motorcycle oils, synthentics included. I have been thinking about using Castrol GTX in my Blast. Check this out,
http://www.xs11.com/stories/mcnoil94.htm Any thoughts, experiences? Jim.
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Joey
Posted on Friday, February 28, 2003 - 12:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Since auto part stores are everywhere, and the nearest HD/B dealer is a long drive out of my way, does anybody know the part number and brand of the appropriate Blast! spark plug? I tried 10R12 at Pep Boys, but they didn't have anything that matched that number.
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Ezblast
Posted on Friday, February 28, 2003 - 01:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Joey - check the electrical section in the Knowledge Vault section here at BADWEB. It will give you the NGK number that you can cross reference to most any other plug mfgr. Just Blasting on the Dark side! EZ
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Jeromius
Posted on Friday, February 28, 2003 - 01:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here's the plug info:

NGK Reference: DCPR7E
Denso Irridium: IXU22

And for some reason, the spark plug for the Blast is now 10R12A (extra "A" at the end) - just in case you need to order one. Not sure why they renamed it.
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Joey
Posted on Friday, February 28, 2003 - 01:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks, guys! Anybody considered converting the Blast! to fuel injection?
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Rick_A
Posted on Friday, February 28, 2003 - 04:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was told the 10R12A was just the Harley designation for the same Buell plug. Most dealers I've been to don't even stock the 10R12 designated plugs anymore.

The NGK 10R12 equivalent is DPR9EA-9

If the Pep Boys guys tried to cross reference that through their computer system they won't find squat. You have to get out the books.

There's other plug brands that have 6R12 equivalents but the plug catalogs at my job show NGK is the only other source for the 10R12.
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Joey
Posted on Friday, February 28, 2003 - 04:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I went to the electrical section, as EZ suggested, and found 3 choices, and the DPR7EA-9 was the hot one. It had "not recommended" next to it. The DPR9EA-9 was the Buell one, while DPR8EA-9 was medium. What would the advantages and disadvantages among these choices be, and what would make someone choose a hot plug or a cool plug?
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Ezblast
Posted on Friday, February 28, 2003 - 04:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jer - that was the old numbers before they switched to the 10R12. If you recall - thats the plug set up(non-resist for the direct hits) that blew my motor when the boot cracked. That number is too hot - unless your racing and don't care if the motor lasts till tommorrow. Denso # is: IX27B. The A on the Blast/V-rod plug stands for "added sealing" - Used on both bikes for different reasons. Ask me some time and I'll tell, but its a long wierd tale that most people won't care about. Just Blasting on the Dark side! EZ
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Ralphthe3rd
Posted on Friday, February 28, 2003 - 06:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

BTW-Ed, Racers go to a colder plug....Not Hotter ! Cold plugs are for high speed use, hot plugs are for low speed where carbon often builds up on the tip...and the added heat of a hot plug keeps the tip clean. So- now you know why your motor really blew up.... go fast=cold plug..go slow=hot plug....
Actually some racers use a hot plug for a couple of warm up laps...then pull them when motor is up to operating temps and replace with cold plug.... thats been going on forever.
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Ezblast
Posted on Friday, February 28, 2003 - 06:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Ralph - my bad - someone needs to let the word out on the plug change though - the only mention is a service warning I found here on BADWEB after the fact - lol - if life, lemmons, etc., still a lot of people running the sportster plug which is bad juju for Buells esp. the Blast. Again Ralph thanks - I've forgotten to darn much on the topic and appreciate the real reason comming to the fore. Going to go riding - have fun! Just Blasting on the Dark side! EZ
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Ravensmith22
Posted on Friday, February 28, 2003 - 07:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Weehoo!!! Just rode my Blast for the first time. Put 5 miles on it going 'round and 'round the neighborhood. Nice to know that I haven't forgotten everything about riding. Actually, I'm rather proud of myself. I haven't ridden since I was 13. Long, long ago, in a galaxy far,far away...Sorry EZ, couldn't resist. Now if only I can get the big, stupid grin off my face before I go to work at the pub.
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Fssnoc2501
Posted on Friday, February 28, 2003 - 11:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Lou,

Don't sweat the "big, stupid grin", if they ask just say I Had A Blast!!! :) :) :) :) :)

Ray
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Chaser
Posted on Saturday, March 01, 2003 - 09:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ravensmith22,
Congrats and welcome to the fold.
Did you take the MSF course?

Josh
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Blasterd
Posted on Saturday, March 01, 2003 - 10:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hello everyone,
I'm doing a service this weekend, finally, and I wanted to know about oil. I was going to use Mobil 1 Synth, is it 20w 50? I didn't see any at Wally World(Walmart). Will I need more than 2 quarts?
Ken
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