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Totway
Posted on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 01:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok Circlip and Prof Stack, I work for a wheelchair seating company and have access to lots of leftover gel. If you would like some to try, give me the size pay shipping and its yours. I could do the whole job but with shipping I'd probably charge almost $75. I did my own seat cover, foam, and embroidery but its lots of work!
(looks great though!)
Let me know,
Tim
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Xgecko
Posted on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 01:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dan there are two choices either
A) blind, in which case you sorta adjusting to your ear.
However the book says that with a torque wrench you tighten the chain limiting screw to 24 inchpounds then back off 3/4's of a turn (4.5 flats) and then snug the Jam nut.
or
B) you take off the Primary. This involves changing way too many seals for my taste.
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Buelliedan
Posted on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 10:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am totally confused by this Blasts primary. Torque wrench on the chain limiting screw? WTF? Obviously this system is totally different from a big Buells primary where you just take the slack out of tyhe chain by screwing the adjuster tighter.
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Aaron
Posted on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 11:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Daniel ... it was a cost reduction thing ... eliminate the inspection window and set the tension blindly instead.
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Buelliedan
Posted on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 11:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm still confused as to how to set it. That spacer appears to be welded on and renders it non-adjustable? Should I knock that spacer out?
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Aaron
Posted on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 11:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Your spacer is welded on?
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Buelliedan
Posted on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 11:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Maybe it is just real tight. I really didn't try to take it off until I knew its intended purpose. So I should remove it and then adjust the chain just like the big Buells only guessing as to the proper amount of tension? Maybe a half turn at a time until it feels right?
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Joey
Posted on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 01:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Buelliedan,

The spacer in my Blast! was in pretty tight, too. I paid HD for the 1K maintenance, so why was it there at all?

Personally, I'm going to invest in a torque wrench. I tried the guessing method, and it seems to work, but I'm not sure if I got it right.
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Prof_Stack
Posted on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 02:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The primary adjustment spacer was put there at the factory to preset the correct tension. It should be removed and tossed after 1000 miles. It is not welded in.

From there tighten the outer nut a few flats (each flat is a 1/6th of a turn) and then tighten the inside nut to lock the setting.

I play it by ear. If you overtighten it the primary chain will start to bind and you WILL notice the noise and reduced power (as what happened when my tech just followed the Buell manual at that point). Too loose and the chain will slap against the case. You'll know it either way.

Better loose than tight. Better still right.
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Xgecko
Posted on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 06:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dan the Proceedure I wrote is straight out of the book...I did it just like that this morning...and then backed about 3 more flats out because it whirred more than I was comfortable with
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Buelliedan
Posted on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 08:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I understand now. thanks for all your help
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Circlip
Posted on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 09:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tim,

Any size limitations on the gel? Could I do the whole seat? I'm not trying to be greedy here, I just move around a lot. Would it make more sense to e-mail you off the BBS?

The Corbin price must have gone up on 1 September. That just adds insult to injury. For $350 it should fit perfectly.
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Xgecko
Posted on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 10:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

check at ASB there's is $299 or something like that
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Englishman
Posted on Wednesday, September 04, 2002 - 08:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Does anyone know if the other Buell (or even XL) primary covers would work with the Blast? I guess I'm not comfortable with the Michael-the-mouse tensioner method :O(
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Xgecko
Posted on Wednesday, September 04, 2002 - 08:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It really does work folks...a torque wrench is better than the eye. however if you really want to the XB's have a window.
On a separate note I'm now in the market for a new fairing/headlight assembly. As I figured Clipons and my present setup do not get along. As nice looking as the look is DarkHelmet look is I'm leaning heavily towards the twin Projector unit below it. You would not believe how ratlike my Blast is right now wires hanging out and such. I'm not gonna do anything about it because I have less than a month before it goes on a boat to Japan but I will likely ship that fairing to Japan (I say that but there is a place here that sells those fairing if they have it I may change it this week). However I love the feel of the Telefix Racer clipons...very nice (Jeremy drop me a line with your address and we can work out payment and shipping)
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Fssnoc2501
Posted on Wednesday, September 04, 2002 - 09:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

David,

There is nothing wrong with the Blast primary adjustment. If you torque to the proper specs (in inch/pounds) then back off starting with 4 flats. Secure lock nut, start bike, and if primary whines, back off 1-2 flats at a time. Until it quits whining. Works every time without fail. Nothing disney about it. Now adjusting the clutch without rearsets, that's disney.

Ray
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Ezblast
Posted on Wednesday, September 04, 2002 - 10:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Xgecko - I got the double risers on mine, but also like the feel. If you cop the CF bars some of the vibration is absorbed by the bar as well and looks good with the black mounting hardware;0). The force is strong in this one;o) Just blasting on the darkside! EZ
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Xgecko
Posted on Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 12:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Telefix don't come in Carbon...I just got back from a shakedown run and whoa has my position changed a bit. I'm higher but a bit further forward than I was with the Clubmans. Easier on my wrists, and Soooo in need of a new fairing. My bike went from Pseudo Cafe Racer past Streetfighter and straight into Rat Bike. That Projector Fairing will pull it back into the streetfighter look.
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Ezblast
Posted on Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 10:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The bars themselves can be switched out - see Lockhart Phillips USA for CF. Just blasting on the dark side! EZ
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Buelliedan
Posted on Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 10:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I adjusted the primary chain on my wifes Blast last night and it now shifts "like butter!!" It was incredibly loose. I bet I had to tighten it at least a 1/2 inch on the bolt!!
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 10:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How many miles were on it?
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Buelliedan
Posted on Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 11:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

800 miles
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 02:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks. My wife's Blast has almost 500 miles on it and seems to shift OK. Maybe it'll shift even better once I adjust the chain.
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Xgecko
Posted on Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 04:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ARGH it turns out that HD/Buell never got/did certifications for export of the Blast outside North America. It looks like I will be leaving mine in storage for 3 years. Pisses me off because until you get past 3 layers of people no one tells you these things. Sales people both here and in Japan...no problem, Buell Customer service....No problem, The mother Company...whoops um no you can't do that. At least I found out now and not with the bike on the pier in Japan. Here what I don't understand a 2002M2 meets both brake and emmisions standard but a 2000 Blast doesn't...actually the 2000 Blast is exempt from the emmisions standards but Brakes??? And now after I've talked my wife into buying a bike we have to stuff them into storage. OK Rant over.

The bars are finally adjusted and even (not easy when you have 2 seperate axis) and man is it nice to ride. That description by Eric that you don't see any part of the bike in front of you when you are riding the XB9S. Well it applies to My Blast now
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Joey
Posted on Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 04:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How does butter shift? I wonder if Court would have had more success if he had used butter instead of oil on the cats. Sounds like I need to tighten my chain as well...
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Buelliedan
Posted on Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 04:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Take a big vat of warm butter and push your hand into it. So smooth!!
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Ezblast
Posted on Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 06:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Xgecko - could you export it as a custom? I knew guys with choppers on my old carrier who did this. But that was mid 80's. Just blasting on the dark side! EZ
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Xgecko
Posted on Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 07:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nope if I did that then I would have to pay the certification fees $2000 (give or take a few yen) for the brakes $1000 for the emmisions (and I would have to pay that because I would be claiming it was something I built since 2000 which was the last emmision free year) All in all about $3000 dollars for a bike that even including what I have invested doesn't total $6000. No It will live in storage and be ready for me when I get back. This way I can save and get a 44" kit for it
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Ezblast
Posted on Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 10:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sorry man 8-( - I guess it was cheeper back then. Truelly a drag... yet for a hobby - you could probably pic up a used KTM and turn it into a proper street warrior and probably sell recouping investment layout. - Just a thought - Blasting on the dark side! EZ
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Xgecko
Posted on Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 11:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Actually the laws changed in april of 1999. Anything built before that is exempt whether or not it has been certified for import/export. As for a Motard screw KTM...Kawasaki makes a Motarded KLR350 with 17"rims and everything. It's blue and very nice I've been staring at it a bunch every time I go to Japan (I spent more time working there this year than in here in Hawaii) but I will likely stay away from bikes (motor) for a while. There is soo much to do anyway and I want to save for either the 600cc or the 44" kit because that will be very fun There is a very good chance I'll end up about 20 miles from Zippers when I return to the USA so there is that to consider. Until today with the new bars there was always something that was off about the way my Blast felt. Not anymore I will miss it. I was serious above riding it now I feel like I am carving the road I see no part of my bike when I look forward just the road and I am so comfortable now compared to before. Now that it feels right I can work on more performance and better looks.
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