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Bueller2003
Posted on Friday, June 03, 2005 - 02:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Gearheaderiko,
Reminds me of when I dropped my buell off to the same dealership I bought my bike from for the 3000 mi. service. When everything was said and done I had questions that no one could answer and when I went to leave one of the service guys said that it just got back from the mandatory 10 mile test ride so thinking nothing of it I jumped on and headed home when I realized it had the same number of miles on it when I dropped it off..
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Naustin
Posted on Friday, June 03, 2005 - 03:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They probably didn't even DO the oil change.
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Naustin
Posted on Saturday, June 04, 2005 - 05:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

anybody listened to this track before??

The Crystal Method: The Dubeliscious Groove (Fly Spanish Version) The Crystal Method Keep Hope Alive 6 of 6 AAC audio file 192 kbps 2 6:46 Electronica/Dance
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Ezblast
Posted on Monday, June 06, 2005 - 03:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The latest rumor - now I heard rumor of a Supermoto - Blast - however, now this just popped up:

HI EVERYONE, I'M JUST YOUR FRIENDLY/INSIDE BUELL- DEEP THROAT.
I JUST JOINED TO SPOIL AND TEASE YOU WITH SOME INSIDE NEWS THAT MAY
ROCK YOUR WORLD? I WANTED TO POST THIS ON THE BADWEB, BUT THEY WOULD
HAVE FOUND OUT WHO I WAS, AND I WOULD HAVE LOST MY JOB AT BUELL.

HERE'S THE NEWS : NEW FOR 2006, BUELL WILL RELEASE A NEW V-TWIN BLAST!
IT WILL BE BASED ON THE XB'S FRAME AND ENGINE BLOCK, AND WILL USE A
SHORT STROKE WITH SMALL BORE(883) CYLINDERS. THE BIKE WILL BE
CARBURATED, AND CARRY A CONVENTIONAL FRONT FORK, ALONG WITH A FEW
OTHER COST CUTTING FEATURES. THEY AIM TO PRICE THIS BIKE SIMILAR TO
THE SUZUKI'S SV650.

I HAVE SEEN EARLY PRODUCTION SAMPLES OF THIS BIKE, AND IT STILL LOOKS
JUST AS SWEET AS THE XB'S. I HAVE SPOKEN TO A TEST RIDER, AND HE
CLAIMS THIS IS AN EXTREMELY FUN BIKE TO RIDE, AND HANDLES AS WELL AS
IT'S BIGGER BROTHERS. IT ALSO HAS MORE POWER THAN THE OLDER 883
SPORTSTERS.

IN LESS THAN ONE MONTH, YOU ALL SHOULD BE SEEING, AND HEARING ABOUT
THIS "BIG BLAST" AFTER THE DEALER INTRODUCTION PRESS RELEASE.

DT
(it would probably be in around 720cc with the Blast stroke)
Things that make you go hmmm.
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Jugallo94
Posted on Monday, June 06, 2005 - 03:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hmmmmm maybe a second bike in the future for me.
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Ezblast
Posted on Monday, June 06, 2005 - 03:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes - the perfect project bike - still - it would have to be made for me to believe - but I would buy one - the potential would be too good to pass up! With todays XB's there is just nothing really to do till rebuild time - lol - with this - all I see is endless potential and a world of aftermarket parts, and factory to easily adapt! - lol
We shall see!
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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P3blastgirl
Posted on Monday, June 06, 2005 - 03:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That is the bike I've been waiting for. Wish I would have waited another year. Well, I guess a trade-in would be feasible!
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Dapeach
Posted on Monday, June 06, 2005 - 04:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wonder if this is gonna be another one of those "first year" bikes that have a few bugs that need working out...

They could give me one to try out for a year or so...
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Dustyjacket
Posted on Monday, June 06, 2005 - 05:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Since this is what a lot of folks want, you know it won't be happening.

Plus, will H-D let Buell compete against the Sportster? That is what a superblast would do.

(Although I would want one as well.)
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Naustin
Posted on Monday, June 06, 2005 - 05:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Why the hell would you buy a 600-700 XB instead of a 900 or 1200? Most buyers would opt for the XB9 rather than what essentially would be an XB6 or 7. The only way to sell an XB6/7 would be to price it like the current blast.

If they do build a 600-700cc xb machine and price it around 4,000-5,000, now that's something to talk about, but then - Who'd pay 9,000 for an XB9??

If you as me, building the above mentioned "super blast" would be pretty stupid for buell. They would lose the Beginner bike market (the whole point of the blast line), and either steal sales away from the xb9 (if it is priced cheap like the blast) or end up with a bike that nobody wants (if it is more expensive -then buyers will opt up to the xb9 or 12).

Just my 2 cents. They should keep building blasts, unchanged. It is cheap, (now) reliable, and is perfect for the job it was designed. Attracting new riders.

An XB6/7 would prove intimdating for the new riders who are currently buying the Blast.
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Ezblast
Posted on Monday, June 06, 2005 - 06:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For the price break of 5g's vs. 9g's - lol - a sporster 883 is hardly intimidating unless you minused 200lbs from it;0)_
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Dustyjacket
Posted on Monday, June 06, 2005 - 09:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Naustin - the idea would be for someone who wants to move up to a standard and not a lean-over sport bike. Or a sport tourer, kind of like the S3T. (Or the Concours.)

That is what I want. Something I can take to Colorado a couple of times a year, yet still do local curvy roads.

Unless Buell comes up with a "more upright" posture bike, maybe one that can do a long-distance 2-up, they are going to lose me to a Sportster or worse. I'd really like to stay with Buell, though.

Personally, I don't think Buell will. I think they'll concentrate on street racers.....
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 01:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Gearheads 2 cents: Buell-HD, whats the difference?! Buell=American made sportbikes, a touring model doesnt seem to fit the Buell 'mission statement'. There are plenty of Harleys that can do that job.
A detuned v-twin would have a better beginner powerband and better performance potential as well as appealing to those who want to ride but are unwilling to ride a single cylinder B-last (Yes, there are many jokes about the Blast).
There is always a market for the inbetween bikes. People still buy an 883 when there is a 1200 available. If the 'Big Four' can sell a full range of bikes, why cant Harley/Buell? (remember Honda sold a Rebel 250 & 450 and who knows how many different sizes of nighthawks!)
Anyway, since EZ doesnt seem to know who this 'post' is really from, we'll have to wait and see if its true or just somebody trying to stir things up.
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Anonymous
Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2005 - 02:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

perhaps...Buell wont even be having a Blast in their 2006 line up...
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Mikej
Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2005 - 08:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you're a true anony then you probably just said something you shouldn't have. If not then you won't be anony for long. ; )
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Dustyjacket
Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2005 - 09:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

haps...Buell wont even be having a Blast in their 2006 line up...



Between sales to the Riders Edge training centers, and some beginners, and some enthusiasts, I would predict that the Blast is their biggest seller. (I may be wrong.)


I would stay with my Blast, except for a few things:
With the crappy Missori roads, the Blast is too light for 65mph and faster speeds. It bounces all over and wind from other vehicles add to the bounce.
Doesn't have a lot of power for dealing with 65+ mph highway traffic. I can get over 65mph, with not much left in reserve and the road has to be FLAT and it takes a long time to get much past 65. (I weigh 231)
Can't do a realistic 2-up for any distance.
I don't think I can do a 600-700 mile day on one, going to Colorado.

It would be nice if Buell comes up with a V-twin Blast, or new version of the S3T, but I doubt they will.

(Message edited by dustyjacket on June 08, 2005)
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Ezblast
Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2005 - 12:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fuell4buell - you shouldn't post as an Anony unless you are solid - just another opinion folks - maybe they won't have a Blast, maybe something else, or nothing - still that doesn't stop the reality from happening - a reality we have no foreknowledge of. Speculation is just that - lol
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Ezblast
Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2005 - 12:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All motorcycles are looking to get lighter, so -Wind - I'd get used to that. Your bike has other problems if it can't do that speed and better easily - probably a too tight primary adjustment. I've done those miles visiting my sister several times - easily doable - if a bit sore from the stock seat - lol
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Gowindward
Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2005 - 02:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Data from H-D's web site on production numbers. 2004, & 05 do not break out the Blast numbers. But it looks like production as declined since introduction.

BUELL UNITS 2003
Buell (excluding Blast) 8,784
Buell Blast 1,190

BUELL UNITS 2002
Buell (excluding Blast) 6,436
Buell Blast 3,489

BUELL UNITS 2001
Buell (excluding Blast) 6,887
Buell Blast 4,056
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Dustyjacket
Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2005 - 03:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

EZ - My post was missing a fact, and a clearly defined point.

The fact: is was very humid for the last 2 days, and I've noticed the Blast lugging at higher RPMs than normal. I assume the humidity is causing this and the bike isn't having problems.

I've had my Blast up to 79.3 (on the GPS) but yesterday, during rush hour, in VERY humid air, it just couldn't get it on. I doubt my primary chain tightened up in the last 1000 miles, but who knows.... Either way, some more HP would be handy in rush hour, where speeds can quickly jump up to 70mph on certain stretches. I entered the highway during one of those stretches last night.

My point is that the very poor Missouri highways are chock full of potholes, raised patches, raised "creases", ruts, gravel, and so on. The Blast is light enough that it feels and transmits every bump, and the front end does a lot of dancing around over 65mph. I can handle it, but I think something heaver will be smoother.

Also, wind isn't a problem, nor the blast from passing vehicles, but the windshield catches "dirty" air from larger vehicles in front of me. I can deal with it, but I'd rather not. Again, I assume, a heavier bike will be a bit smoother.

I love running about on my Blast. It is nimble and gutsy. The only time I am less happy is above 65mph.

I do want to do some road trips to Colorado. A Blast could do it, but not for me. I want a Sport Tourer (or standard) that can do realistic 2-ups for a couple hundred miles a day. If Buell doesn't come out with one, I'll go to H-D. Unfortunately, I cannot afford a H-D tourer, so a Sportster 1200C will have to do. Not ideal, but OK for long-distance solo riding, or 2-up day trips.

I've sat on the lightning and firebolt, and am not a fan of leaning over a lot.

When I do get a larger bike, I am still keeping the Blast. It is a nice "around town and back roads" ride.

I am not "dissing" the Blast, but I have my own opinions and desires. I'll be "voting" with my wallet next year.
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Dustyjacket
Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2005 - 03:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

it looks like production as declined since introduction.




The Riders Edge program (at least North of town) are intending to keep the Blast for 5 years before replacing them. Evidently, they are hearty enough to do that.

Some of the decline in Blast purchases might be from Riders Edge not having to replace them every year or two.

Or not......
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Ezblast
Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2005 - 03:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Try adjusting your primary to the loose side - you'll probably gain that lost top end - the manual and most shops adjust too tight. - A thought.
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Dustyjacket
Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2005 - 04:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have an off-topic followup.
The manual says to adjust to 24 inch-pounds, and back off.

My wrench goes down to 25 inch-pounds minimum.

Can someone try adjusting their Blast to 24 inch-pounds, and then to 25 and tell me how many flats different they are? That way I could do this myself by setting to 25, backing off to 24, then backing off the rest, which I "think" is 8 isn't it?

BTW - My chain hasn't been adjusted since it left the factory. It still has the spacer. I'll be due for my 1,000 mile service ASAP.

(Message edited by dustyjacket on June 08, 2005)
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Ezblast
Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2005 - 05:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There is another way -
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/20164/69705.html?1091406412
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Dustyjacket
Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2005 - 08:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I read that, and will try it this weekend.
But, I was also hoping someone could find out how many flats between 24 and 25 inch pounds. I bought that darned wrench for the bike, before I found it wouldn't go low enough.
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2005 - 09:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think production is down because of the fact there are now so many used Blast 'starter' motorcycles out there (cheap).Why buy new at $4495 and keep it for a year and sell it for $3000?. Buy used at $3000 and sell it a year later for $2500. (actual results may vary!)
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Ezblast
Posted on Thursday, June 09, 2005 - 05:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Concur
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Dustyjacket
Posted on Thursday, June 09, 2005 - 07:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Exactly, although my wife (and I) will be keeping mine.
So, Buell ought to subsidize my next bike, since we'll keep one more Blast off the road.

In fact, if we decide not to do long distance riding (multi-day trips), my next bike will be a Buell regardless of the new models.
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Swampy
Posted on Friday, June 10, 2005 - 04:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Why a 600 or 700 cc Blast?

Insurance!

Dusty Jacket, hot humid air is thinner the the cold stuff, cylinder filling capabilities will be cut down and thus top end performance, you have rejetted?

I just got back home from Mackinaw City this afternoon (been working up there all week)and the wife is nagging me about you guys being my new girlfriend cause the first thing I did was check here! Little does she know!
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Dustyjacket
Posted on Friday, June 10, 2005 - 04:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Swampy - it is totally stock. About 1100 miles.
Only service is change oil/filter (twice) change sprt*trans fluid (once), tear-down of top end due to PCV valve melting down into the rocker box.
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