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Sarodude
Posted on Friday, March 22, 2002 - 09:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can't find anything Blast related on Banke's site except for where they mention the words 'Blast' and 'Firebolt'. How do I see what they have and what it'll look like?

-Saro
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Xgecko
Posted on Friday, March 22, 2002 - 12:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

look under "services" there is one photo of the rightside rearset. You can also use my method....write letters to them asking about possibly buying a set and ask for photos
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Sarodude
Posted on Friday, March 22, 2002 - 12:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

WRITE LETTERS? What's that?

-Saro
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Xgecko
Posted on Friday, March 22, 2002 - 04:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

letters/email messages...no I didn't mean Snail Mail I reserve that for my wife only
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Ezblast
Posted on Friday, March 22, 2002 - 10:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

they also have an exhaust - and I bet they could do something about our intake problem - that CF one looks real nice
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Xgecko
Posted on Saturday, March 23, 2002 - 01:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey Ezblast...I'd bet that Banke is the manufacturer for ASB's Blast intake. That would make too much sense for it not to be the case. Damn I forgot to pick up my intake spacer from the Machine shop. I guess I'll have to ride instead of work on the Blast this weekend
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Cherokee_Ed
Posted on Saturday, March 23, 2002 - 11:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Help- Just got my 1000 mile service at the dealer. complained about auto choke and idle and klunk at idle. they fixed idle and auto choke and klunk - so far at least. Picked bike up at closing and rode it home. Discovered it doesn't have near the power it did before service. top speed was 77 mph after service and straining to get that. What happened? nothing unusual noted on repair invoice.

Cherokee Ed
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Ezblast
Posted on Sunday, March 24, 2002 - 01:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

possible causes without senses - inlet system air leak, enricher valve not seated, or vacuum fubar - either the valve or leak. or even a dirty air filter -though not likely since was just serviced - yea sure;0) - think carb. area since thats when douptfull hands were.I,m growing into self maintenance - with a single its not so hard(as say a vw or sm.blk. chevy eng. would be). Since you say they were working on the enrichner - thats the first thing I would check. After that your into vacuum problems - the best advice I've read on that is already in the KV section under carb.s etc. - good luck(it could even be thread/lint clogging a jet(happened to me doing a vw as a kid ( my sloppy days!) Good luck - keep Blasting!
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Prof_Stack
Posted on Sunday, March 24, 2002 - 09:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cherokee-ed: concerning your Blast loss of power:

Same thing happened to me, exactly, at the first servicing. The primary chain was overtightened because the tech did what the service manual said.

Get down and do it yourself. Loosen it about 2 to 3 flats (about 1/2 revolution) and try it. Better a little loose than too tight and binding.

My Buell tech used my Blast to learn more about the bike. It was first one sold at the shop.

Prof
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M2cyclone00
Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 01:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

We have a new Buell in our family. My girlfriend (wife, domestic partner, or whatever names fit?) just traded her Virago for a Blast! on Saturday. She loves it. Yesterday, she handled the corners noticeably faster, enjoyed riding it much more, & I enjoyed the ride following her on my M2 much better. We already had our first oil leak at a whopping 68 miles. The oil filter gasket was leaking. First time I've experienced that. So, I changed the oil & gasket. I wanted to change the oil between 50 & 100 miles anyways & again at 500.

She bought it through Orlando Harley Buell. I know some have had nothing but problems from their dealers. I bought my M2 from them & had it serviced there and they have been great. They've opened a huge beautiful new store. They conduct motorcycle safety courses in their parking lot, have a recreation of the original HD shack for weddings, & a great hot dog & burger vendor. Makes the place a great place to spend the day (or my $). It's great having 2 Buells in the garage now!

Dave Frye
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Court
Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 02:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dave:

Congratualations!

She is going to love the BLAST®. Moving from a Virago, the BLAST® will provide a much keener sense of excitement and feedback....it makes a GREAT bike for further devloping skills for riders of any level.

I am thrilled to hear about your good experience with your dealer.....one at a time.....one a a time.

Ride safe and have fun,
Court
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M2cyclone00
Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 02:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Court,

Having fun goes without saying. The safe part, well I'll have to restrain myself!

Dave
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Blake
Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 03:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dave: We expect to see pics and firsthand personal testimony from your GF. We'll be nice, promise.
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Mapes
Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 05:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


Just finished my MSF class this weekend and looking to purchase a Blast next weekend. I took the MSF 2 years ago and have been struggling with the "do I want to ride or not" dilemma. I know that's not a dilemma for most people, but it was for me. I decided to repeat the class to see if I was able to ride with anymore confidence. I passed the first time through, but was not very confident...lots of stalls and "stutter" stops.

This time through, I was much more comfortable and did a lot more grinning.I'm finally seeing what the fuss is all about.
I have been researching different bikes for the past 2 years and I keep coming back to the Blast.

Does anyone have any experience with Gainesville HD? I am fortunate to live in an area with a few dealers to choose from and would like to buy from one with a good reputation and service department.
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Mapes
Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 05:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

One more thing...

I was considering getting the saddlebags and the Hero tail guard for the Blast. Has anyone purchased these and if so, what are your opinions?
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Mapes
Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2002 - 09:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Can you tell me what the recommended maintenance intervals are for the Blast?

I am looking at a used Blast and was also wondering what I should expect to pay to have the dealer do a safety check on the bike and make sure the fluid levels, etc. are correct.

Thanks in advance for your help.
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M2cyclone00
Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2002 - 10:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey Mapes, the maintenance is pretty light on it. I've probably paid between $80 to 300 or so for most services including tires for my M2. Should be about the same for my girlfriends new Blast! More for the 20,000 mile service. Most of it involves changing oil at 2500 miles intervals, changing transmission fluid at 5000 intervals, checking tension on the primary drive. I like to change oil & tranny fluid every 2500 miles down here in hot humid Florida if not sooner. I don't remember the other maintenance intervals, but I can look them up tonight. If it's like my M2, there is major service at 20,000 miles with changing seals & fluid on the front forks. How much mileage on the used Blast!? I've heard good things about the Gainseville shop.
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M2cyclone00
Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2002 - 10:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Blake, I need to figure out how to post a picture? I feel computer illiterate.
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Xgecko
Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2002 - 10:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

imagelink

Or you could use the insert image button below. Either way the image in question needs to be smaller that 50K
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2002 - 01:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

M2Cyclone00: What the X-lizard said.

Like X-Gecko points our, "insert image" format panel button (), the tenth button front the left, facilitates uploading up to a 50 KB jpeg or gif file that will appear within the body of your post. Select the "Full" format panel mode to have the complete BBS formatting tag inserted into your post (at the end of your post at time of insertion).

Additionally, you can display an existing web image via the "insert web image" button (), the next button to the right.

The formatting panel buttons simply insert the tags that you would otherwise need to type into your post by hand.

Give it a try after reading the documentation in the Cool Pics topic and in the BBS Formatting Documentation.

Good luck, we look forward to seeing your pictures.
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Mapes
Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2002 - 02:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

M2Cyclone00,
Thanks for the maintenance information. I am completely new to this and am trying to decide whether to buy new or used. The used bike I'm looking at is a 2000 with 3800 miles on it. I talked to them today and it sounds as if it was pretty well cared for.

Only problem is they already have a better offer
than what they initally offered it to me at. They are saying "first come first serve", but the price is going to be $500-$1000 more than the first quote. I knew the inital price was a bit too good to be true, but the extra money makes it hard to justify not buying new. The used has the lower seat and I would like to have it "safety checked" so I know I will be putting a couple of hundred into it right off the bat.

How is your girlfriend enjoying hers? I am still a little nervous about riding, but the class this weekend helped a lot. I guess I'm ready to take the next step and get one of my own.
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M2cyclone00
Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2002 - 02:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Blake & Xgecko. My son likes photography & took the one of me on my bike in my profile. I'll get him to take some more.

Dave
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Xgecko
Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2002 - 02:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mapes, here's some things to think about, A used bike is already broken in engine wise (whether it was done properly or not is another matter. The book say breaking is 500-1000 miles but the truth of the matter is that the engine really starts to feel "right" at about 4-5K miles. I'm thinking about this right now because I know I'll have to breakin the motor again after I do the Nallin upgrade. Still is the total cost is in the high 3K range you are probably right in buying a new one (with a warrenty vice a used bike without one).
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M2cyclone00
Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2002 - 04:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mapes, my girlfriend, Lisa, loves hers. She's only put 68 miles on it. She rented one for a day & she demo rode one at Daytona. She enjoys it much better than the Virago 250 that she traded in. She handles corners significantly better & faster. She's a lot more confident than on the Virago.

She bought new & bought the extended warranty, an additional 6yrs. If you haven't already asked, you may be able to buy an extended warranty on it if it's been titled less than a year. Or, it may already have an extended warranty which is transferable.

Lisa took the safety course & that helped quite a bit. They're better instructors than I am. I got lost trying to figure out what she needed to know & how to instruct her? She's now reading a Twist of the Wrist II by Keith Code. This is an excellent book that explains how to corner & ride fast in fairly simple terms. I've seen someone increase their corner speed by a substantial degree immediately after reading his book.

Dave
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Dust_Storm
Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2002 - 04:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here's just a thought for you Mapes.. I bought my 2001 P3 (Blast) new from Barnett HD here in ELP, TX. At the time, it was the only Black Blast still in the crate from WI (and the only one ordered that year that was factory Black), and I HAD to have it. So I plopped down the 600$ hold fee so I could wrestle up the rest of the down payment. I got a call a day later from the finance people saying they had recieved a larger hold on the my Black Nightmare ( Some moron went to the head salesman and offered 4000$ cash on the spot for it, so They tried to change my paperwork and "lose" some significant signatures of mine.. ) Didn't work, I had reciepts for everything and raised Holy hell . They (the dealer) almost bought me a brand new X1 becuase of getting caught in the cookie jar. It's amazing what happens when you say the words lawsuit and proof in the same sentance. Moral of the story, Head salesman was fired ( rehired one month later. DOH!) and they took off 500$ off the price, $200 for instore crap (Wouldn't let me put it towards any safety gear, just anything that had Barnett HD on it.. what a waste) and were "extremely appolgetic"..

If the dealer says they'll hold it for you, they should have enough balls to stand up to they're word, not bend when "better" offer comes along. A man is only as good as his word. If it were me, I'd be looking elsewhere...

(and ANYWHERE but Barnett HD of El Paso...)

[Ds]
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Bikelessinomaha
Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2002 - 10:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a very basic "newbie" question for you.

I am going to be taking the MSF course this spring and buying a bike this summer. I am torn between a Buell Blast or a Kawasaki Ninja 250.

I like the Blast for its style, simplicity, and reputation as a beginners bike (not to mention its American made) but it sounds like service from the Harley dealerships is "spotty" as far as quality is concerned. It is also a little more exspensive than the Ninja 250.

I like the Ninja 250 for its style and rep. as a beginners bike as well. It is also capable of higher speeds (so I have heard) and has good gas milage and a big tank (4.8 gallons). However, all of this is at the expense of a very high-reving engine and a long break in time (Kawasaki recommends less than 4000rpms for the first 500 miles. 4000rpms on a Ninja 250 is about 35mph.).

Has anyone here had experience with the Ninja 250 as well as the Blast? What did you think?

Bikeless In Omaha (hope to change that soon !)
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Ezblast
Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2002 - 11:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Xgeko knows;0)
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2002 - 11:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Radiator and coolant maintenance, periodic valve adjustments, two carburetors, carb synchronization, chain adjustment, chain maintenance, lubricant flung from chain, relentless high pitched buzzing akin to a weed wacker on steroids, looks like a racebike sounds like a sewing machine...

versus

None of the above with very generous low end torque and the potential for so much more.

A 250 Ninny faster than a P3? By any significant measure? I strongly doubt it. And for a new rider? NO WAY!! The P3 will leave a 250 ninny in the dust in a roll on competition or in city block stop light take off drag race. Anyway, if you want fast, you are looking at the wrong two bikes, at least in their stock form.

For me the answer is WAY too easy. The Blast P3 is the clear winner.
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Xgecko
Posted on Wednesday, March 27, 2002 - 01:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Actually Blake the Ninja is faster at the top end by about 10mph (indicated anyway, remember 6 gears) but I ran out at a bit over 100 and the wife topped out at a little over 110. Real world use the Blast is better 0-40 they are even (as long as you keep the Revs up from about 35 to about 65 over 65 the Ninja walks away in a roll on. The Ninja is almost as easy to work on as the Blast. Yes the Blast is easy to work on but the 250 Ninja has one of the best maintainence records of any bike. As for sound...well in stock for they both blow you're looking at the difference between a sewing machine and a lawnmower. With a Kerker on each (this is the one that I've actually heard) they sound great. Either is good. The Blast handles better but the Ninja is more stable on the Highway (neither are long distance highway bikes) The Blast weighs more but not enough that you would know it. You can do more to the Blast in the way of customization, the 250 is a great trackbike. They Use the same tires, yea I know that the 250R comes with 130/80/16 rear but the manual recomends 120/80/16 for the back (how come Harley/Buell makes less that 20,000 bikes and they get 3 companies to make a tire that was discontinued from Kawasaki) Anyway either is good depending on what you want a Race Rep look-a-like of a Naked streetfighter starter bike. I like my bike and my wife likes hers She thinks mine is twitchy and I think hers steers like a truck. All in all they are almost equal. I wrote a long post comparing the two for Esportbike but it was lost when their server crashed.
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, March 27, 2002 - 03:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


Quote:

Real world use the Blast is better...


and there you have it, along with all the other stuff I spouted. I've never heard the P3 described as twitchy before. And... I like the way my lawnmower sounds.

PS: Your spouse is obviously a better rider eh? Getting the 250 up to 110 mph where you only made 100 mph? I suppose she's just more aerodynamically trimmed as is the 250 ninja compared to the P3. Both would affect roll-on acceleration from 65+ mph right?
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