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Norcal_blast
Posted on Wednesday, September 01, 2004 - 01:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

edZ... you must have driven your Blast on many of the local concrete freeways that have the grooves ground into them

with the stock Blast tires (or any bike with narrow tires, my friends with classic bikes, old Nortons or BMWs, etc say the same thing) the ride is really poor if not outright unsafe

do you think the Chen Shins might be wide enough to improve the handling in those conditions? What's your freeway experience with some of the other tires you've tried?
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Ezblast
Posted on Wednesday, September 01, 2004 - 09:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

our city roads are half groved, then there is all the corigated steel roads for bridges, underground transit, basically the city eats the red bikes tires and the twisties eat the tires on the Black - When the Avons heat up, they are almost as good as the Pirrelli, and have very good rain behavior, with the Pirrellis close behind - the stock suck all around - the Avons last a 1000 to 2000 longer but are very pricey, the Pirrelli last as long as stock, but the performance is TOL - sticky from the go and they are very inexpensive, the Chen Shin are around the same price as the Pirrelli in SF but I'll check them out - only a few have tried them, but wear is said to be very even, holds air very well, very sticky, good balance - except for the looks - sounds promising - I'll burn through them soon enough anyway - lol
Got Thump?! Just Blasting on the Dark side! EZ
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Gren
Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2004 - 03:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ack, the more I look at tires the less I'm sure about. My front tire looks pretty good so I've been concentrating on rear tires. Here's what I've found so far:
PIRELLI DIABLO 130/70ZR16 (61W) Code: PU1429600 Price: $99.99
METZELER ME550 130/90V16 Code: PU11011970 Price: $94.99
DUNLOP CRUISEMAX-F 130/90-16 BLK Code: PU417640 Price: $69.99
DUNLOP K630 130/80-16 Code: PU32PU80 Price: $64.99
All from http://www.motorcycletire.com/
I'm leaning towards the Pirelli at the moment. I'd like to get the new rear this week, so somebody please idiot check me. Is 130/70 good? Should I stick with 130/80ish? 130/90? If you can't tell, I'm dumb with tires. Thanks in advance!
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Ezblast
Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2004 - 10:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

120/80 & 100/80 for the Pirelli MT 75 - the only other sizes are mfgr. styled and fit where another will not - the Chen Shin 130/80 (use the 100/90 front)will fit - the rest of the 130/80 won't - the 130/70 would be a front end tire - do not use for rear, Kenda makes a 140/70 that fits - use the 100/90 front, but though it is the longest lasting tire and looks ok, it handles just a little better than stock, the Avon and Pirelli come in stock sizes and are both very good with only subtle differences - the former longer lived and better wet handling, and the later - pretty much sticky from the go, and best handling. The Chen Shin has recieved high praise from all its owners so far, though not a pretty tire it is V rated - so is next on my list , but untried by me so far.
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Gren
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 12:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks EZ! I was really confused. I think I'll go with a MT75 rear. $61 from Chaparral. :-)
Hopefully Hurricane Crazy Ivan won't stop me from enjoying riding on a real tire.
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Vjb77
Posted on Monday, October 18, 2004 - 11:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ez,
What tires are you running? I just ordered the Kenda K671 rear...I am curious also why you recommend the 100/70 instead of the 110/70...the 110/70 does fit, correct? As always, thanks...
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Ezblast
Posted on Monday, October 18, 2004 - 12:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So far the Pirrelli's - they are still the stickiest I know of.

100/90 is more stable than the 110/70 in corners - the most important thing - lol
GT - JBOTDS! EZ

(Message edited by ezblast on October 18, 2004)
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Monday, October 18, 2004 - 08:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

& all you really get with the 110/70 is more tread up the sidewall.
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Johnnylunchbox
Posted on Wednesday, October 20, 2004 - 11:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am going to be taking the rear wheel off to have a local shop install a new tire. Are there any special considerations when removing the wheel?
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Ezblast
Posted on Wednesday, October 20, 2004 - 04:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not really - just follow the manual - haven't done it myself - but I've watched it done plenty - just make sure of your torque values upon reassembly.
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Burnmyheartdown
Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2005 - 10:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Has anyone seen wave rotors for a blast? I think that would be something neat to look into the possible benefits there...
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Ezblast


Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 10:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Banke said they'd do a set - if anyone is interested - would be pricey, but the up sides are hard to deny.
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Monday, January 17, 2005 - 01:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I put that modification under the 'Do It When You Need It' file. IE:When you can actually exceed the limits of the stock brake setup.
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Ezblast


Posted on Monday, January 17, 2005 - 11:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Actually I put this on the to do list when I wear out the front rotor - lol
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Mmelvis


Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 09:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

EZ what is the upside to wave rotors?
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Ezblast


Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 09:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Very even pad wear, less overheating and warpage, making for more consistant braking - more noticable probably on the track or to a real back road fan.
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Jprovo


Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 03:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the downsides:
Cost, currently unobtanium.

I've heard that you get really agressive pad wear. Since I've never heard of a warped front rotor on a Blast, I wouldn't worry about rotor warping.

But hey, they do look cool, and I'd buy one to try it if the price was right.

James
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Ezblast


Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 03:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Banke said they would do one F&R for any Blastards interested - give em a call - its something I asked them about in passing and got a no problem answer to - but I didn't persue it at that time because the need was not yet - but when I do replace it - thats what I'm getting!
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Jugallo94
Posted on Friday, April 22, 2005 - 10:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a 2002 blast, and spun my rear wheel bearings, ruining my wheel. I am trying to find a aftermarket wheel that I am able to keep my stock tire on. I have been unsuccessful locating any. The harley shops tell me there are no aftermarket wheels for this bike. Any suggestions?
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Ezblast
Posted on Friday, April 22, 2005 - 11:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Besides Ebay - A Ninja 250 wheel - but even though the same size - douptfull it would fit.
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Swampy
Posted on Friday, April 22, 2005 - 08:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would be too much trouble to convert to the pully and disc bolt patterns.

EZ, I ordered a 110/70/16 Kenda 671 for the front of the Big Kids Blast, off the top of your head, does that go on without modifications to the fender? Thanks
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Friday, April 22, 2005 - 09:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Swampy: Yes, It goes on without any modifications. I just took mine off (after 1000 miles) and put on a Pirelli. You could of had it cheap!

Jugallo: stock wheels are $100 or less on ebay. I've seen them go for $40! Paid $90 for mine.I havent heard of anyone finding or making a replacement aftermarket wheel,unless you are looking to modify to make it fit.

(Message edited by GearheadErikO on April 22, 2005)
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Swampy
Posted on Friday, April 22, 2005 - 10:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Did you not like it?
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Saturday, April 23, 2005 - 12:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

*Well the 110 is a little wide and a lot of the tread goes up the sidewall, the 100 should be a better fit.The 110 does fit and look good though.
*Front tires outlast rears by about 2:1 and it just didnt seem prudent to compromise on front tires. Given that and that the Pirelli is a far better tire (being $60k in the hole from an accident also had an influence on future tire selection).
*The rear Kenda, although looking cool, after about 1700 miles of 75% freeway riding, is squared off and the handling is not so good anymore(not the case with the Pirrelli or even the Dunlop). It also didnt ride and handle as well as the Pirelli, the heavier tire affected ride quality (definitely) and R.W.H.P. (theoretically,waiting on testing).
*I cant say that the Kendas are bad, just not as consistant a performer as the Pirellis (from my experience).
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Jprovo
Posted on Saturday, April 23, 2005 - 11:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I agree with going the Ebay route. Someone in the group might have an extra one since I don't see one on there right now.

James
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Swampy
Posted on Saturday, April 23, 2005 - 10:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Gearheaderiko,
Thanks for the info on the Kendas, we have one on the back already that needs replacing, and yes I agree it is very square. So what Pirellis do you recommend? The MT 75?
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Saturday, April 23, 2005 - 10:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

MT75 is the only stock size (and Blast specific) tire that Pirelli makes. There are other Pirelli's but are not Blast specific and while some might fit the front, the rear is as always limited and you'd be mixing tire designs.

(Message edited by GearheadErikO on April 23, 2005)
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Ezblast
Posted on Saturday, April 23, 2005 - 10:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Pirelli will have between 3/4 to 4/5 the life of the stock tire - that is the down side - the up side is they cost less than half the price of the stock tire and are 3 times as sticky - yes the MT75, and they handle rain and traffic groves, etc. in a very superior fashion compared to the stocker as well. The Avon's 51/52 cost about as much as the stocker, last about a 1000 miles longer, are almost as sticky as the Pirelli, there downside being that they need time to warm up where as the Pirelli are sticky almost from the go. I've always wondered how a Pirelli front and an Avon rear would feel like - a tad stickier front - hmm - I'm not one to mix tires though I'd sure like to know how that combo feels - lol - Scott and I just finished a nice Stinson Beach loop to keep the tires rounded -
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Jprovo
Posted on Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 02:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.americanmototire.com/

Avon AM 51 Front/AM 52 Rear $47/$53
Pirelli Mt 75 $41/$49
Dunslop K330 $46/$57

The tire prices on the website are seem realy cheap, but they are about right. I just paid $78 for a AM52 but that includes mounting and balancing. If I bought if from AMT, it would cost $53 + $12 shipping + $15 Mounting and Balancing at the local shop = $80. So in the end it washes out. I might as well buy the tires from my local guy to start off with.

I prefer the Avons. I have got more than 5000 miles ot of an Avon when I went to Wisconsin and Back two yers ago. With the Pirelli I got about 4000 and with the stock Dunlop it was around 3500.

I really don't see the huge performance advantage of the Pirelli on the street. If I was racing the Blast, I might re-think that. I'll gladly spend the 10-15% premium for the Avon than the Pirelli for 25% more tire milage.

James
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Swampy
Posted on Saturday, April 30, 2005 - 03:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Kenda has officially left the building



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