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Deltacruiser
Posted on Saturday, April 30, 2005 - 11:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm looking at a Kerker muffler I found cheap $90 for my wife's blast. How loud is this thing? I don't want her to completely hate it if it's too loud. Will it be louder than my X1 with the factory race pipe?
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Ezblast
Posted on Sunday, May 01, 2005 - 01:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yes
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Monday, May 02, 2005 - 01:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Diesel: Pro Series. Quieter & should last longer, though not as pretty. However if you want noise I would go with the V & H. Havent heard a Bub yet, but from what I read here its almost a drag pipe and shouldnt need any repacking as the V & H will, so it should last a little longer.

(Message edited by gearheaderiko on May 02, 2005)
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Diesel379
Posted on Monday, May 02, 2005 - 07:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the info Gearhead. When you say the Pro Series is quieter I assume it still sounds significantly better then the stock pipe though correct?
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Monday, May 02, 2005 - 09:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Most definitely! Its not quiet, just not as loud as most of the others. It has a deep tone and will set off car alarms!
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Blaster_s
Posted on Monday, May 02, 2005 - 07:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have the ProSeries and Gearheaderiko is right. It is a deep sound but in my opinion is just right. It's not so much as loudness but tone.
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Jonnyblaster
Posted on Monday, May 02, 2005 - 08:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd personally say that the Pro-Series is far from quiet. I was visiting relatives in the country this week and they were all able to hear me from two miles out. And the tone is just enough attitude to make people go "What was that?!"

...Car alarms are so much fun...
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Blaster_s
Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2005 - 06:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jonnyblaster, you're right...I love it when people say, "What is that thing?"
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Blaster_s
Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2005 - 06:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



Yeah, com'on!!!!!!!!!
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Dapeach
Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2005 - 08:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Stop that...you're making me drool
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Diesel379
Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2005 - 05:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

does the carb need to be adjusted if an aftermarket pipe is installed?
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Ezblast
Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2005 - 05:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes - the jetting recommendations are at the top of the page.
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Blaster_s
Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2005 - 08:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Had mine jetted and installed the ProSeries intake.
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2005 - 09:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dont forget to read the exhaust manufacturers recommendations. Not all will need to be re jetted.
While tuning in the carb to your engine, climate, riding style, modifications etc., is advantageous, just changing jets for the sake of it is pointless.
I think EZ has listed the link for an easy way to remove the aluminum plug covering the air/idle adjustment screw. (bc rider?)
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Mmelvis
Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 12:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well my Jardine failed today. The header pipe has a mount welded on to the pipe. Well part of the weld failed and now I have a crack at the bottom of the mount and a hole in the pipe. Need to call Jardine and see if this would be covered under warranty. Lasted for about six months, have to put the V&H on for now. Will keep you updated to see if Jarine will replace under warranty....
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Matty
Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 01:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mmelvis,
Jardine is a stand up company, so I don't anticipate you having any issues. Has anyone else had this problem?
Funny story for the day -
I was sitting in my truck at a red light and I heard something approaching in the distance. From the sound I thought it was a big enduro bike with an old performance pipe. As it got closer and I grew more deaf, my blurring vision showed it as a blast!
The guy had a stock headpipe on it... that's it!
It was chopped off at the front of the motor, just as the pipe started to curve to the back. I don't recommend it =)
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Kdan
Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 04:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh hell no, I don't recommend that either! My exhaust system separated at the weld where the head pipe meets the muffler. I had already ordered the Kerker setup, so while waiting for the new pipe, I ran it for a few days with just the headpipe. My ears are still ringing.
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Burnmyheartdown
Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 05:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mmelvis, my jardine is cracked underneath that weld on the actual headpipe where it mounts to the engine case, right after that bend. I haven't contacted Jardine, I was just going to go have it welded as it's only a superficial crack now, but keep us posted on what they do, if they are helpful I'll give them a call, but I don't have a spare exhaust to run so i really don't want to have to ship my head pipe off and have nothing left to run on the bike.

Oh yeah, noticed this crack about a week ago, the pipe is...nov. dec. jan. feb. march. apr. may....just about 6 months old...interesting.
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Naustin
Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 09:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

oooooohhh . 2 makes a pattern of failure.

Is it really that difficult to make an exhaust for this little thumper that will not self destruct?

Sorry to hear about your troubles guys...
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Blaster_s
Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 10:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have the Pro Series and it comes loose frequently where the header meets the exhaust under front of the engine. I actually didn't like the design of a two-piece set up until I heard about the ones that are breaking.
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Mutt2jeff
Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 12:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am currently running my Kerker pipe without the can (which is trashed) until i get my new exhaust. It is VERY loud, sounds quite a bit like a race bike. I was pulled over a couple of days ago, apperantly the pipe will spit a bit of fire under heavy acceleration . Didn't get a ticket though.
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Swampy
Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 09:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Big Kid has purposly tried to destroy the Kerker but it is still holding together. I noticed the bottom screw to the end cap is missing. And yes it is louder then he77! I can hear it when he hits the highway 3 miles away.
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Mmelvis
Posted on Friday, May 13, 2005 - 02:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Spoke with Jardine last night, I might be able to get it replaced at no cost. Standard warranty I was told was 90 days. I was told they sometimes do replacements up to year. Now I have to find my receipt so I can show when it was purchased. Piles of paper to look through. Will keep all updated. Have a great day
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Friday, May 13, 2005 - 09:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Naustin: The problem with HD's (mostly older ones now) and the thumpers is that a lot of manufacturers jump in the market and you wind up with a lot of aftermarket stuff that wont stand up to the vibration.Okay if you ride once a week on Sunday, but ride every day and the stuff fails. Thats why I try to buy HD/Buell made stuff because it has the best chance of lasting and one reason I push and use the Pro Series exhaust.
White Brothers gave a one year warranty on the Blast exhaust (their mistake) while only giving a 90 day warranty on all Harley exhausts they make. That should put up a warning flag right there!
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Naustin
Posted on Friday, May 13, 2005 - 10:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Gearhead - yeah, it's obvious that these companies aren't putting a real effort into it. They are bringing high profit, low quality parts to market without testing them.

I'm definetly going to go with the Pro Series unit when I get around to it.
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Ezblast
Posted on Saturday, May 14, 2005 - 01:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So why don't I ever hear complaints about the D&D, and the later constructed Bubs where considered bullet proof - mines still humming - ok - shouting contentedly - and all I do is give it a fresh coat of high temp ceramic black paint each year. The WB header has always been fine - it is the can that has a weakness at the inlet weld - I had one with a HD weld and still later - recently went and had that area doubled up on the weld - the can surface tension will give before the weld - now., people are always rebuilding their V&H - pretty regularly - all of the above where gems though compared to the priciest exhaust with the most power and torque - but almost as soon as it would leave the dyno it would have weld longevity issues - thats plural - the serious would just have a good welder go over them hard and they then held up well with no backing by the mfgr - and the highest price on the market - lol - the Force - was it worth it - if you wanted every last ounce of power perhaps - lol - but the WB done right is only an hp away and 2 ft-lbs - the Bub 1 ft-lb more actually than the WB though a few hp down from the WB -
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Naustin
Posted on Saturday, May 14, 2005 - 09:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, I might go with a Bub, except they are discontinued.
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Monday, May 16, 2005 - 02:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Naustin: Dennis Kirk still lists the Bub for sale.
EZ: I didnt say every non Buell/HD part fails just that a good many of them are prone to failure. A good replacement part shouldnt need maintenance if the original part didnt need maintenance. If you have a choice of the same part by Buell or by another manufacturer, you are better off going with the Buell part.
I dont know why every time I post this, it gets people fired up. I have BOXES of brand new parts which failed in a short period of time (or didnt even fit) that were not OEM. I've spent the moneyto prove this out and I've had much better luck buying used old original parts from the swap meet.

I'm the first person to say the WB is a better performer than the PS, but who wants to spend all that time on maintenance?
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Ezblast
Posted on Monday, May 16, 2005 - 10:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

- Thats just it - I don't - only thing I've done is double up on the inlet weld to the can inlet - otherwise I dog em both - you know my bikes are not show bikes - lol
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Naustin
Posted on Monday, May 16, 2005 - 10:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Gearhead - yeah, I saw that last night too when I went on ebay.... Thing is, I need a rear tire first. ; )
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