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Joplin
Posted on Friday, August 22, 2003 - 06:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Heya Court and all,,,,
To keep it short, I recently purchaced a 1995 S2 from an individual. When I attempted to title it here in Colorado, they had problems with the VIN. Seems the 5 in the 10th position should be an S. Trouble is, the AZ title has a 5, the motor is stamped 5, the frame is stamped 5 and the ID tag in the frame has a 5 in that position. I even had called Buell with some recall questions before I knew the extent of the problem and they couldnt pull it up with the 5 but when they changed it to a S it was finr and pulled up my pearled white S2. Now Coloado wont title it without a new VIN verification (the one I have now shows the # with a 5) showing a S in that position. I dont know as yet how the previous owner titled it (probably had a cousin in the MVD). Granted I havent called Buell CS cuz I just found out the depth of the problem and they arte closed, but I just wanted to see what you (Court) might think about it. Thanks for any input,,and happy birthday,,,

JM
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S2pengy
Posted on Friday, August 22, 2003 - 09:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Buell service bullentin B-003 dated March 1995 titled VIN update covered this... A new embossed number plate should have been installed....
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Joplin
Posted on Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 10:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

doh!

thanks
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Rex
Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 03:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

hummmmmmmmmmmmmm...my S-2's title has a 5, not a Z......So will I ever have problems? REX
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Reepicheep
Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 09:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thats why, hypothetically speaking, if a guy were to have a 2000 M2, again totally hypothetically speaking, and noted during a call to Buell Customer service about, oh, I don't know, maybe a shock recall or something, that the VIN on the title by both the previous owner and the current owner had the VIN wrong (say a 5 was an S or vice versa).

Hypothetically, if that guy was to just shrug his shoulders and give a stupid look when the guy at the title office when he said that vin shows no valid manufacturer, and were to say "well, it's a Buell, its parked right out front" then the title guy would probably just peck a few keys and enter the title anyway. At least in Ohio. In the Forest Park title office. Hypothetically.

The power of suggestion works really well during the VIN check on an out of state transfer by low motivated DMV employees as well. They look for a 5, they see a 5. They look for an S, they see an S. Hypothetically of course.

I can't imagine how much time and heartburn it would take to get something like that straightened out with the DMV.
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 10:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You should here the tales of when there WASN'T SUCH A THING as a Buell and the choice, while folks were getting impatient in the line behind you, of choosing between a Bricklin and a Buick.

:)
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99x1
Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 10:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My '99 Buell is titled in Ontario Canada as:
BRAND - NONE
Make: HARL Model: DAV

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Buelliedan
Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 10:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In Texas there still is not such a thing as a Buell at the DMV. I just tell them to put it down as a Harley.

Court,
Did you ever find a build sheet for my RSS?? Thanks

chevydan1@hotmail.com
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Bartimus
Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2004 - 08:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just ran into the same problem transfering a title for a '95 S2 i purchased in Georgia.
The DMV here in Tucson was very helpful and got the job done in a matter of time.
How would one procure a copy of this bulliten B-003 dated March 1995 ?
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Court
Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 06:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll bet King Todd, long time Buell archivist, can get one into the hands of someone who can .pdf that babe....


Toddddd....TODDDDDDDDDDD....TOOD...come here!

Court
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S2pengy
Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 08:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court
Already taken care of.... Right Bart...
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Court
Posted on Saturday, February 21, 2004 - 06:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Toddster:

send me a copy if you can.

Thanks for the help,
Court
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Firemanjim
Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 12:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So,what is all of this about vin #'s on 1995 S-2's??As I have 3 of them this may concern me???
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S2pengy
Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 11:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Service Bullentin B-003 Dated 3/95
Incorrectly Stamped Serial Numbers. The 10th digit was incorrectly stamped 5 when it should have been S.. A new rivet type serial number plate was to be installed and the orginal sticker was removed.....
Court drop me a line off line at s2pengy@peoplepc.com
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Blake
Posted on Monday, February 23, 2004 - 12:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

FMJ,
The law has gotta already be after you anyway. No worries.
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Rex
Posted on Tuesday, February 24, 2004 - 12:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jim....let's talk about this at American Sport BikeN, okay? REX
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