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MAC110 2000 X1
Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2000 - 08:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court,

I'm trying to get information in regards to the "shock recall"? I found out about it by accident while surfing the net. What exactly is the problem and is it safe to ride the bike? I have a 2000 X1 and contacted my dealer who had very few details, no replacement parts and no tentative date for a fix!

Thanks,

MAC110
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Court Canfield
Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2000 - 10:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

First.....

Ed, mucho thanksalotta for the kind words. It appears that age has "wisened" both of us.

I called Aerostich yesterday and the wait for "Hi Viz Yellow" is something on the order of 4 to 5 months. When you get your 'Stich, you may expect to be elated with the quality of workmanship, design and comfort.

What headlight modulator did you use ? I have a Gall's in my vehicle, along with Whelan white strobes in all the external lens and alternating tail/back-up light flashers. In my business, I have reason to be stopped alongside the road. Being seen is essential. I am hoping to integrate strobes into the new Street Fighter I am building.....careful, don't ask...hehehe.

Thanks again for the kind words.

MAC110:

Here's the deal.....

I've pretty much said as much as I can/should/know in a couple other areas on this site but let me do an up to the moment summarion.

First, there is no need for "panic". My gut feeling is that I could repeat the failure on a "closed course" but I am willing to venture it'd be nearly impossible on a public road. If I had an affected Buell, was wearing the gear I typically wear, I'd consider myself at no greater risk than I am on a daily basis. I'd exercise appropriate diligence and monitor the area of concern more diligently. Period.

Your dealer, I say again, is not necessaily to blame. Dealers, for the most part, are less than properly Buell-fluent and are laregely dependant, for information, on the Buell factory.

Now, let's really exacerbate things...imagine playing that game where you whisper the FACTS in the ear of the person next to you, they do the same and so on down the line. Recall how screwed up the message used to get ?

Now, insert in the middle of that line of folks the same legal-beagles who raided the Buell website . . . .see what's happening here ?

Buell, appropriatelt by the way, can say little. The little they CAN say is filtered by non-moto-head JD's and ultimately transmitted to dealers who think Uni-Planar is a Kelly Johnson design and they have a phone number of an 19 year old summer intern in WI to call with questions.

In the words of Erik Buell...."just go ride the motorcycle". Dissappointed, I am. Alarmed, I an not.


That's my VERY PERSONAL take.

If you want some REAL news . . keep your eye on the www.teamelves.com website. I am writing a Team Manager's report that'll go on in the next day or so and there are some exciting things happening.

But shirts !

Ride safe, lean much and smile more,
Court
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Ed Thacker (Edthack1)
Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2000 - 07:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court,

My Head light modulator is "Pathblazer" by Kisan Technologies. Neat little module with day light sensor. Installation is simple: just plug onto headlight between bulb and wire harness, mount daylight sensor & your done.

Got mine from Compitition Accessories +- $80. Handles up to 115W bulb.

Ed
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acetrick
Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2000 - 12:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

HEY ALL, I AM LOOKING FOR A NEW 99 OR 00 BLACK M2 I UNDERSTAND 99'S HAVE A $1500.00 REBATE AND 00'S ARE $1000.00 I WANT MARCHINI? OR POLISHED OR
CHROMED WHEELS. DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A WEST COAST DEALER W/ INVENTORY. ALSO WOULD YOU RECOMMEND THE 99 VS 00. PRICE SHOULD BE ABOUT $6400.00 ON 00'S. I OWN A 96 S1 AND HAVE NOT RIDEN THE M2 WILL I BE HAPPY W/ NEWER BUELL.PS THX FOR ALL THE SUGGESTED FIXES FOR MY S1. THX ACE
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Ed Thacker (Edthack1)
Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2000 - 09:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court,

Did a Courtly thing last week-end. Had to break in the new Aerostitch so drove to Cleveland from Mansfield (6:30 departure)to have breakfast with the Cleveland chapter of Honda Sports Riders. 80 miles , Went to see friends bike collection in Cleveland afterwards- Drooled for couple hours- 18 bikes, all pristinely restored, Honda CB160, Kenny Roberts Rd350, couple of Ducatis, CBX,CB400, KAW 1000, Bimoda.etc. All have current tags,battery tender, insurance- ready to ride. Awesome.

Left Cleveland around 11:30- Hungry & remembered a great barbeque joint in Albion Pa. Only 90 Miles east. Had a great lunch there, Hummm I'm only 75miles from my inlaws in Spring Creek, Pa (east) Saw inlaws & decided to go south thru mountains & pick-up I80 to home. Got to I 80, Hummm I'm only a hour or so from My brother in laws in Pittsburgh I'll go see him. Got home 11:45 ; 515 miles Aerostitch worked great in rain , me thinks a worthwhile investment.

Shock intact & no change to tire contact patch!

Ride Safe,

Ed Thacker
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Court Canfield
Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2000 - 10:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ed:

You are a dog and I think you are AWESOME !

Now do it over and over for 30 days......I hope I get to meet you on the ROAD someday.

Smart move on the 'stich. Remember to wear it and keep the skills honed.

Go get'em Tiger !

Court
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Ross Northwood (Pilot)
Posted on Friday, July 28, 2000 - 08:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court, Oz Radio link no linked, post again please
So as I can check it out. Thank You Ross
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Court Canfield
Posted on Friday, July 28, 2000 - 09:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

appears to be....

vnd.ms.radio:http://www.thebasement.com.austreaming.audio.asx for the sound.....

Website for them seems to be...weel, I can't find it...check the link I sent yestereday or try searching Syndey radio stations...this thing is COOL !

G'Day Mate...

Court
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Anonymous
Posted on Friday, July 28, 2000 - 02:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court,
I posted this question in the suspension section but received no responce.
How can you tell which application a showa shock is intended for? Are there any part numbers stamped into the shock or any other identifing features to look for? I have the preload maxed out with no thread showing and still have a problem with it bottoming out when riding hard. Im thinking that perhaps the wrong shock was installed when they replaced the WP. I have a S3T, ride solo and I weigh 190.
Can you shed any light with info on this?
Thanks.
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buellie dan
Posted on Thursday, August 03, 2000 - 03:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court,
It appears that your sources lied to you. Buell has no intention of giving us new shocks. Jay at ATC was told in no uncertain manner that once you get the SRP put on your bike, "that's it!!" Sounds like Harley Lawyers have completed the takeover! This really bites!!

Dan
99S3 & 00X1
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mikej (Mikej)
Posted on Thursday, August 03, 2000 - 04:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dan, read the recall letter, the SRP can be either final or temporary until the replacement shock becomes available at the owner's discretion or preference. The people who are saying the SRP is final and total have not read the second half of the paragraph: "When the new shock absorber is available, if you choose, you can have it installed at no charge through our dealer network." The words in green are straight out of the recall notice letter from Buell. I believe the printed letter holds more worth than assumed misinformation. Jay should get a copy of the letter and go back to his source. (No offense to Jay, some dealers have been spewing the same misinformation to customers.)

Sorry for playing in your backyard here Court, but this shock deal is frustrating enough as it is.
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Court Canfield
Posted on Friday, August 04, 2000 - 06:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Agreed, Mike.

I hope you remember my comments when Jay announced that BMC would quickly develop and ship the new shocks. There is no such thing as "quick". Buell has no control over the process which is mandated for testing and development. Minimum of 18 months.

I think the semantics controversary has been played out and I think Buell made a good move...quick fix to get the bikes moving, followed by the "real" fix.

Ride with the SRP and be patient. The details of how this came about are quite astoundsing and Buell REALLY (for the 3rd time I can think of in the last 5 years) was blindsided.

Ride safe,
Court
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Anonymous
Posted on Friday, August 04, 2000 - 08:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They were blindsided because they don't do enough DURABILITY TESTING.

Touche,
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mikej (Mikej)
Posted on Friday, August 04, 2000 - 11:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yep Court, I sort of remember that. When those people I knew were going into the snowmobile business I warned them that there were a whole lot of details and regulations they'd have to contend with beyond just developing their sleds. I don't know all the details, but I do know there are a whole lot of details.
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Court Canfield
Posted on Friday, August 04, 2000 - 11:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wrong...and you've given us a clue as the the reason for the need of the "anonymous" moniker with that comment....

Buell did extensive testing and didn't miss a lick.

If you need something to ponder your weekend...work on this...IF, just IF, Harley-Davidson had never entered into a corporate allegience with Ford, there'd be no SRP.

Nothing about the present situation has anything to do with any malfeasance on the part of Buell R&D. Buell was blindsided and there's no way it could have been avoided and more that if everyone in Nagasaki had held there hands up to keep the A-Bomb from hitting the ground.....unavoidable, and Buell's done a fabulous job of handling the situation quickly and effectively.

Court
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mikej (Mikej)
Posted on Friday, August 04, 2000 - 11:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You scared my Court, I saw "wrong" and thought oh-oh, but see you were referring to the anon, whew. Okay, back to my morning mail and muddy water (coffee).
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Anonymous
Posted on Friday, August 04, 2000 - 12:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Buell was blindsided and there's no way it could have been avoided and more that if everyone in Nagasaki had held there hands up to keep the A-Bomb from hitting the ground....."

Of course they could have avoided it, if they would have tested the bike adequately when they decided to go with the lighter flywheels. The reason they went with the lighter flywheels was to try to eke out the last bit of performance of that lovely lump of a motor. Hopefully next year when the HD/Porshe/FORD/Cosworth VR1000 Buell comes out then they will have a high-performance motor that does not have to be tuned to the ragged edge to offer acceptable performance. How many races has Tilley finshed this year? I have seen that bike and it looks like a bomb waiting to explode at any lap. It usually does. Buell has a choice, if they want to race, they must evolve to stay competitive. If they don't want to evolve they should not race and concentrate on being kick butt, fun and reliable real world motorcycles, something like a sportier BMW.
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Court Canfield
Posted on Friday, August 04, 2000 - 02:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wrong again.

OK.....I gotta get outta here for the weekend. (yes, I am going riding on my BMW) But, I'll give you one more guess.

You're not even close yet so think before you hit send.......

Court
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Turnagain
Posted on Friday, August 04, 2000 - 11:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey Court,

Hope all is well up there!

Touched up your History page with some more info/links. Gave the same treatment for Aaron's & Dave's too. Still in the market for a nice RW750 and RR1200 pic, so if you have anything, I'd appreciate it much. 'By line' for sure!

OK, just put together a page to show y'all that not all Buell's are for the twisties. Take a peek at some straight liners here:
http://www.dcbrag.org/races.htm

Enjoy & cyber later, s
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Vik (Eeeeek)
Posted on Saturday, August 05, 2000 - 12:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Heya Court! I went looking at a used Viggen today.

MMMMMMMMMMMM.

Vik
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