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Archive through September 17, 2019Fresnobuell30 09-17-19  03:51 pm
         

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Jaimec
Posted on Tuesday, September 17, 2019 - 06:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They've shortened races before due to crashes. Why not remove one lap to give them all a warm up lap? No idea... Actually, I don't remember this from the weekends where they only had one race. Maybe it has to do with the two races in one weekend? Your guess is as good as mine. Must take a LOT of electricity to get all of those bikes fully charged for each session.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Wednesday, September 18, 2019 - 07:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wonder how much fossil fuels are required to actually charge all those batteries?
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Jaimec
Posted on Wednesday, September 18, 2019 - 07:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Actually, none. The whole point of the series was to be as ecologically sustaniable as possible.

https://www.visordown.com/news/racing/motogp/motoe -riders-specification-race-schedule-confirmed

Which is why I said I believe they're limited to how much they can charge all of the bikes for two races a weekend.
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Wednesday, September 18, 2019 - 03:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I though I read somewhere that they used solar to charge the bikes? I can't imagine them hauling and deploying the solar panels around, however. The energy those bikes must consume would not be conducive to solar I would think.

Also, the allure of e-powered vehicles is not really the cost/production of electricity vs. fossil fuels...it's the efficiency of the motors. Don't quote me on exact numbers but electric motors are roughly twice as efficient as gas powered motors. I want to say in general electric motors are somewhere around 80% efficient. I have no idea how efficient the Moto-E motors are..probably safe to assume less efficient as the power demands go up.
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Jaimec
Posted on Wednesday, September 18, 2019 - 05:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fresnobuell, if you read the article I linked above you'll see you're right: Solar. I'm sure there's a backup system if it's a cloudy race, but I believe they set up in advance of the weekend and there are storage cells to store electricity leading up to the weekend. In fact, it was one of those storage cells that shorted out and caused the fire that delayed the season.

Even so, there's a finite amount of energy available over the course of the week and when you have to charge that many bikes that many times, I can understand why they might cut corners on those "two race weekends." On the other hand, we wouldn't've had two-race weekends if not for the fire at the beginning of the season.

But to Pwnzor's point, they STILL burn fossil fuels transporting the bikes from one round to the next. That part hasn't changed.
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Friday, September 20, 2019 - 11:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They claim it's clean energy, but those batteries have some very toxic materials. I have always found it ironic that Prius owners are so righteous about being green when their car has hundreds of pounds of toxic batteries.
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Jaimec
Posted on Friday, September 20, 2019 - 03:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Motor vehicle batteries have ALWAYS been toxic, though. I mean, car batteries are made from LEAD after all.

But this is a motorcycle forum, NOT a horse racing forum, so we take what we can.
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