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Hughlysses
Posted on Thursday, April 30, 2015 - 03:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ten days is quick to hire two teams

Well, I doubt many of Larry's guys have found new jobs yet, and hopefully you could find enough to put together at least one team.
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Vagelis46
Posted on Thursday, April 30, 2015 - 03:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wish we could see an EBR in Imola...not a Hero at Imola ..... Last years Larry's bike had a cool paintjob
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, April 30, 2015 - 03:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I gotta admit, if even half of what I hear is correct, I might drop some coin to support a bike running around a WSBK course that says "*&^% Hero" on the side.
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Vagelis46
Posted on Thursday, April 30, 2015 - 03:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It would be nice to see an EBR in Laguna Seca ...... Just for this race ..... That would be the most important project for Larry .... The other races do not matter much the way things have went.... But showing up for the race in LAGUNA...that would be great ! Also if they could arrange for a couple of days of extra testing ... they would have a good weekend !

(Message edited by vagelis46 on April 30, 2015)
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Bads1
Posted on Thursday, April 30, 2015 - 05:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Funny how HERO was everyones hero and now they are the bad guys.... the Mafia.Nobody knows where that company sits and why they did what they did.
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Thursday, April 30, 2015 - 06:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Let me rephrase - ten days is short to get enough money to transport/pay for two teams, it would seem
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Hughlysses
Posted on Thursday, April 30, 2015 - 09:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Slaughter says an absolute bare-bones effort would be $200k or so, so I think we can scratch this for any kind of quick fix for the team.
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Thursday, April 30, 2015 - 09:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hero pulled from it, right? But what about all of the other sponsors?
Its not like Hero was the only one involved, right?
And, not to downplay Slaughter, but are we sure his numbers are accurate?
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Nobuell
Posted on Thursday, April 30, 2015 - 11:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Forget WSBK and come back to the USA and race Moto America. Trying to raise money to race WSBK will be a lost cause. Why bother?

I guess I am in a bad mood tonight.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Friday, May 01, 2015 - 05:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Forget WSBK and come back to the USA and race Moto America. Trying to raise money to race WSBK will be a lost cause. Why bother?

On the plus side, it appears they learned things in 1.25 seasons of WSBK competition that would might make them significantly faster in Moto America. Also, Geoff May and Cory West are looking for jobs right now, so there are EBR-experienced riders available.

On the downside, Larry may not have the money to ship a couple of containers of motorcycles and parts home from Europe.
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Pjd2ss
Posted on Tuesday, May 05, 2015 - 12:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

move along...nothing to see here...eyes forward...keeping moving...
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Wednesday, May 06, 2015 - 02:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How does attempting to continue this WSBK help anyone? It seems like a huge waste of money to run around on 15-20th place on a defunct brand with an apparently crooked sponsor. As much as I would like to see the EBR crew at Laguna Seca, I just don't see HOW they would justify the expense (or get the money.)
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2kx1
Posted on Wednesday, May 06, 2015 - 03:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think Pegram is trying to put something together.
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Wednesday, May 06, 2015 - 04:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Its still racing, and those guys have that in their blood.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Wednesday, May 06, 2015 - 05:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How does attempting to continue this WSBK help anyone? It seems like a huge waste of money to run around on 15-20th place on a defunct brand with an apparently crooked sponsor. As much as I would like to see the EBR crew at Laguna Seca, I just don't see HOW they would justify the expense (or get the money.)

I don't know how they'll get the money given that people that should know state the cost of a WSBK weekend is $200K+, but it would be a HELL of an advertisement for EBR if they compete at all. Remember, the intent of a receivership is for the company to be bought intact and kept in business. I can't think of a better advertising opportunity for EBR to attract potential buyers even though EBR themselves can't do it.
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Wednesday, May 06, 2015 - 05:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Racing at LS and running mid-pack really aint going to get anyone to want to buy the company.
The company has to be profitable, and racing doesnt really do that (ok, if it costs 200k to race a weekend, they'd have to sell how many 15k bikes to make up the money...and no, dont just divide 200/15, that is not the answer)
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Wednesday, May 06, 2015 - 06:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

Its still racing, and those guys have that in their blood.




Probably this makes the most sense
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Wednesday, May 06, 2015 - 06:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It is what it is bro, I love to race too (drag) and we do crazy things to get track time (driving 12 hours for only a guaranteed minute of track time lol)

These guys are in the thick of it, on the world stage.
They have more sponsors than Hero, if they wanted they could probably pull it off, crowdfunding would help too, as it has in the past.

Is it economically wise for "EBR" to keep racing? No, not at this point (in my opinion), but they already have world-class bikes and a lot of data, run with it, race and enjoy it while you can!
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Nobuell
Posted on Wednesday, May 06, 2015 - 11:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If Team Pegram still has the insurance company as a sponsor, I would bet they would do Moto America. He could get a new R1 and run the production class racing with the super bikes. Having no support for parts and race components does not make racing the EBR likely. Perhaps he has some parts but who owns the bikes and race equipment?

I could be wrong, but there are a few bikes that can be had easily and can be up to speed quickly. Time will tell.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Thursday, May 07, 2015 - 09:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Canepa has a new ride:

http://www.worldsbk.com/en/news/2015/Niccol+Canepa +joins+Team+Grillini

Good for him.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, May 07, 2015 - 09:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Glad he landed on his feet! He is a talented kid who did a great job for the EBR bikes.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Friday, May 08, 2015 - 08:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dispute regarding the break-up of the EBR WSBK race team:

http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/former-team-he ro-ebr-coordinator-blasts-involved-americans/

http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/pegram-racing- responds-to-former-team-coordinators-press-release -blaming-team-instead-of-ebr-and-sponsor-hero-moto corp/
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Ebmachine
Posted on Saturday, May 09, 2015 - 12:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Hughlysses.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Saturday, May 09, 2015 - 04:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A few more details on the story here:

http://www.sportrider.com/pegram-talks-about-mud-s linging-wsbk-press-release?src=SOC&dom=fb
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Hughlysses
Posted on Saturday, May 09, 2015 - 09:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nic's not having much luck; apparently he's running a high fever and was declared unfit to participate in Superpole 1.

Another note of interest- his placing on the Kawasaki was similar to his recent placings on the EBR. Of course, if he's been riding with a fever all weekend, he may not be at 100%.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Monday, May 11, 2015 - 12:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Canepa was apparently too sick to ride all weekend and didn't make either race. Tough luck for his new ride.
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Monday, May 11, 2015 - 07:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

at least he still has a ride
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Jaimec
Posted on Tuesday, May 12, 2015 - 12:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've taken WSBK off of my DVR schedule. I just don't care about any of the competitors or teams, so have no reason to watch anymore. Damned shame, too, because they really had the BEST television coverage of the three series I watched. The MotoAmerica coverage by CBS Sports is just "weird." And Fox Sports' coverage of MotoGP gets annoying with all the breakaways for commercials.
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Figorvonbuellingham
Posted on Tuesday, May 12, 2015 - 12:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fox does suck. They don't even show Moto3 anymore and you never get to see any of the after race stuff like you do if you watch racing in Europe. WTF is wrong with this country...lol. I miss Speedvision.
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Figorvonbuellingham
Posted on Saturday, May 16, 2015 - 05:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anyone know why Bein isnt covering WSB anymore? I just added it to my package last week and watched the race last weekend but they don't have Donington scheduled next weekend. What gives?
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