| Author | Message | ||
     Riohondohank |
In the video you can see the forks are gold indicating the Ohlins rather than the Showas that are on the 1190RX. Looks like a RS to me. Perhaps they got some sort of exception. | ||
| Trojan |
Perhaps they got some sort of exception. I'd be very surprised if the tech team give any exceptions given the amount of cheating allegations flying around in Superstock already. Maybe the people at BSB just don't know the difference between an RS and RX model, or just don't care as they don't think it will be an issue? If it gets into the top ten I would expect some form of protest from a regular top team if it is an RS though (assuming they know the difference if course). The BSB Superstock rules are very clear that the model has to be FIM homologated before it is eligible. The RX is FIM homolgated but the RS never was (I think). http://www.msvracing.co.uk/media/12601/g%205.2.7%20stk.pdf (Message edited by trojan on August 07, 2014) | ||
| Riohondohank |
Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe the British Superstock requires that the bike be homulgated by the FIM. As I read the the FIM homulgation rules they are the same for Superbike and Superstock. So it appears to be if a particular model is legal for WSBK it would be legal for British 1000 Superstock. Hence a stock 1190RS should be legal. http://www.fim-live.com/fileadmin/alfresco/2014_SB K_SS_SST_HOMOLOGATIONS-1.pdf | ||
| Riohondohank |
Opps, I forgot that May and Yates are riding RX's | ||
| Trojan |
This is the 2014 list of homologated models. EBR have the RX homologated but NOT the RS. http://www.fim-live.com/fileadmin/alfresco/Listing _of_FIM_homologated_motorcycles_for_2014,_Updated_ 19_February.pdf There is a caveat in the BSB rules that says they can allow a bike if they believe it 'would be eligible under FIM rules for homologation', although that would be stretching it a bit for the RS as there were not enough made to justify that claim. | ||
| Hughlysses |
The difference in the RS and the RX in race trim may be non-existent. The RX's they're running in WSBK are using RS radiators (more compact and much more expensive). I'd think any engine parts which would be different between the two bikes in stock trim would be the same for racing. Come to think of it, Larry Pegram's RS was apparently raced as an RX at Laguna Seca. The only change that was specifically cited was that he had to change to the aluminum wheels of the RX as the magnesium units on the RS weren't legal in WSBK. | ||
| Riohondohank |
The big difference between the RX and RS in race trim would be the suspension. It would not matter for a Superbike class, but I suspect that a Superstock class would not allow changing the forks, but maybe British Superstock allows it. | ||
| Classax |
The superstock rules allow them to change the shocks and forks so its a non issue. The major differences between the RX and RS in race trim are engine internals, and (a few) carbon fiber components. Seems like everyone associated with EBR refers to either bike in RACE SPECIFICATION as an RS. It may well be a slip of the tougne ah la saying Kleenex when one really means tissue. (Message edited by Classax on August 07, 2014) | ||
| Riohondohank |
Some wet practice.  | ||
| Simond |
Wet practice will be useful this weekend!! | ||
| Trojan |
I'd think any engine parts which would be different between the two bikes in stock trim would be the same for racing. But the Superstock rules specifically prohibit fitting or changing to different engine components. I would hope that they are referring to it as an RS just as a figure of speach, otherwise it could be embarrassing on Saturday when they roll up for first practice. | ||
| Trojan |
FP1 has just finished. Cory was 32nd with a time of 1'41.973. Leading time was Danny Buchan on the Kawasaki in 1'37.392 FP2 is this afternoon at around 3pm (UK time). As the EBR is listed as a wild card entry and not as a series regular, it may be that it has been given dispensation to run as an un-homologated RS. | ||
| Riohondohank |
Dry practice this morning. Weather report is for 90% chance of rain this afternoon. Less chance tomorrow, but 90% again on Sunday. | ||
| Trojan |
Here is the full timing for FP1 http://www.tsl-timing.com/?loc=major&season=2014&s eries=BSB&event=races&source=ed_BSB&eventid=143204 &table=143204fp1stk&tabletype=gif Pirelli National Superstock 1000 free practice one - conditions dry 1 83 Danny BUCHAN Kawasaki - Tsingtao WK Kawasaki 1:37.392 10 12 99.50 2 122 Jason O'HALLORAN Honda - Honda Racing 1:38.038 9 11 0.646 0.646 98.85 3 14 Lee JACKSON BMW - Buildbase BMW Motorrad 1:38.491 7 11 1.099 0.453 98.39 4 20 David JOHNSON Kawasaki - PR Racing Kawasaki 1:38.930 12 14 1.538 0.439 97.96 5 3 Filip BACKLUND Kawasaki - SMT Racing 1:39.027 3 14 1.635 0.097 97.86 6 11 Adam JENKINSON Kawasaki - Northern Escalator Racing 1:39.060 11 14 1.668 0.033 97.83 7 2 Josh DAY Kawasaki - Be Wiser Kawasaki 1:39.206 14 14 1.814 0.146 97.68 8 10 Josh ELLIOTT Kawasaki - GA / Homer Racing / Socialites Electric Cigare 1:39.302 10 13 1.910 0.096 97.59 9 1 Hudson KENNAUGH BMW - Linxcel Trik Moto Racing 1:39.349 10 12 1.957 0.047 97.54 10 17 Dominic USHER Kawasaki - G&S Racing Kawasaki 1:39.563 9 12 2.171 0.214 97.33 11 54 Jimmy STORRAR BMW - Jimmy Storrar Racing 1:39.575 7 13 2.183 0.012 97.32 12 55 Ashley BEECH Kawasaki - Jones-Dorling Racing 1:39.637 12 12 2.245 0.062 97.26 13 53 * Joe BURNS Kawasaki - JG Speedfit Kawasaki Racing 1:39.872 3 11 2.480 0.235 97.03 14 35 Gavin HUNT Kawasaki - Nei Motorsport 1:39.911 12 13 2.519 0.039 96.99 15 78 Freddy FORAY Honda - Honda Racing 1:39.994 14 14 2.602 0.083 96.91 16 81 James EGAN Kawasaki - MWR Kawasaki 1:40.026 5 13 2.634 0.032 96.88 17 32 Kyle WILKS Kawasaki - Tsingtao WK Kawasaki 1:40.209 13 14 2.817 0.183 96.71 18 4 Johnny BLACKSHAW Kawasaki - Accident Advice Solicitors Racing 1:40.238 13 13 2.846 0.029 96.68 19 28 Victor COX Kawasaki - Abpac Racing 1:40.535 12 13 3.143 0.297 96.39 20 99 Michael ROBERTSON Kawasaki - MRR 1:40.687 9 13 3.295 0.152 96.25 21 40 Ben YOUNG Kawasaki - Team WD40 1:40.707 12 14 3.315 0.020 96.23 22 15 Leon JEACOCK Kawasaki - Allied Racing 1:40.720 13 13 3.328 0.013 96.22 23 56 James EAST Kawasaki - ILR Kawasaki 1:40.856 7 11 3.464 0.136 96.09 24 51 Luke QUIGLEY BMW - Bathams Prize Winning Ales / Formwise 1:40.977 11 11 3.585 0.121 95.97 25 80 Mike BOOTH Kawasaki - RapidSolicitors.co.uk 1:41.031 5 14 3.639 0.054 95.92 26 21 Tom TUNSTALL Kawasaki - Doodson Motorsport 1:41.185 13 13 3.793 0.154 95.77 27 8 Jesse TRAYLER Kawasaki - Morello Racing 1:41.260 10 14 3.868 0.075 95.70 28 86 Daniel JOHNSON Kawasaki - ICE Kawasaki Racing 1:41.378 10 13 3.986 0.118 95.59 29 23 Shaun WINFIELD Kawasaki - Anvil Hire TAG Racing 1:41.400 11 11 4.008 0.022 95.57 30 45 Tom FISHER Kawasaki - G & S Racing Kawasaki 1:41.478 12 12 4.086 0.078 95.50 31 30 Rob McNEALY BMW - McNealy Brown Ltd 1:41.486 6 12 4.094 0.008 95.49 32 13 Corey WEST EBR - RS - Splitlath EBR 1:41.973 9 14 4.581 0.487 95.03 33 222 Nicolas GROBLER Kawasaki - MWR Kawasaki 1:42.120 13 13 4.728 0.147 94.90 34 33 Gary WINFIELD Kawasaki - Anvil Hire TAG Racing 1:42.765 7 12 5.373 0.645 94.30 35 121 Chris BARNES Kawasaki - AP Broome Racing 1:43.521 6 8 6.129 0.756 93.61 36 100 Connor TAGG Kawasaki - Morello Racing 1:43.553 10 12 6.161 0.032 93.58 37 22 Dan FULLER Kawasaki - Dannic Racing 1:44.540 3 6 7.148 0.987 92.70 38 5 Deane BROWN Kawasaki - Brabus / Opus 1:45.245 2 4 7.853 0.705 92.08 | ||
| Trojan |
Here is the full timing for FP1 http://www.tsl-timing.com/?loc=major&season=2014&s eries=BSB&event=races&source=ed_BSB&eventid=143204 &table=143204fp1stk&tabletype=gif Pirelli National Superstock 1000 free practice one - conditions dry 1 83 Danny BUCHAN Kawasaki - Tsingtao WK Kawasaki 1:37.392 10 12 99.50 2 122 Jason O'HALLORAN Honda - Honda Racing 1:38.038 9 11 0.646 0.646 98.85 3 14 Lee JACKSON BMW - Buildbase BMW Motorrad 1:38.491 7 11 1.099 0.453 98.39 4 20 David JOHNSON Kawasaki - PR Racing Kawasaki 1:38.930 12 14 1.538 0.439 97.96 5 3 Filip BACKLUND Kawasaki - SMT Racing 1:39.027 3 14 1.635 0.097 97.86 6 11 Adam JENKINSON Kawasaki - Northern Escalator Racing 1:39.060 11 14 1.668 0.033 97.83 7 2 Josh DAY Kawasaki - Be Wiser Kawasaki 1:39.206 14 14 1.814 0.146 97.68 8 10 Josh ELLIOTT Kawasaki - GA / Homer Racing / Socialites Electric Cigare 1:39.302 10 13 1.910 0.096 97.59 9 1 Hudson KENNAUGH BMW - Linxcel Trik Moto Racing 1:39.349 10 12 1.957 0.047 97.54 10 17 Dominic USHER Kawasaki - G&S Racing Kawasaki 1:39.563 9 12 2.171 0.214 97.33 11 54 Jimmy STORRAR BMW - Jimmy Storrar Racing 1:39.575 7 13 2.183 0.012 97.32 12 55 Ashley BEECH Kawasaki - Jones-Dorling Racing 1:39.637 12 12 2.245 0.062 97.26 13 53 * Joe BURNS Kawasaki - JG Speedfit Kawasaki Racing 1:39.872 3 11 2.480 0.235 97.03 14 35 Gavin HUNT Kawasaki - Nei Motorsport 1:39.911 12 13 2.519 0.039 96.99 15 78 Freddy FORAY Honda - Honda Racing 1:39.994 14 14 2.602 0.083 96.91 16 81 James EGAN Kawasaki - MWR Kawasaki 1:40.026 5 13 2.634 0.032 96.88 17 32 Kyle WILKS Kawasaki - Tsingtao WK Kawasaki 1:40.209 13 14 2.817 0.183 96.71 18 4 Johnny BLACKSHAW Kawasaki - Accident Advice Solicitors Racing 1:40.238 13 13 2.846 0.029 96.68 19 28 Victor COX Kawasaki - Abpac Racing 1:40.535 12 13 3.143 0.297 96.39 20 99 Michael ROBERTSON Kawasaki - MRR 1:40.687 9 13 3.295 0.152 96.25 21 40 Ben YOUNG Kawasaki - Team WD40 1:40.707 12 14 3.315 0.020 96.23 22 15 Leon JEACOCK Kawasaki - Allied Racing 1:40.720 13 13 3.328 0.013 96.22 23 56 James EAST Kawasaki - ILR Kawasaki 1:40.856 7 11 3.464 0.136 96.09 24 51 Luke QUIGLEY BMW - Bathams Prize Winning Ales / Formwise 1:40.977 11 11 3.585 0.121 95.97 25 80 Mike BOOTH Kawasaki - RapidSolicitors.co.uk 1:41.031 5 14 3.639 0.054 95.92 26 21 Tom TUNSTALL Kawasaki - Doodson Motorsport 1:41.185 13 13 3.793 0.154 95.77 27 8 Jesse TRAYLER Kawasaki - Morello Racing 1:41.260 10 14 3.868 0.075 95.70 28 86 Daniel JOHNSON Kawasaki - ICE Kawasaki Racing 1:41.378 10 13 3.986 0.118 95.59 29 23 Shaun WINFIELD Kawasaki - Anvil Hire TAG Racing 1:41.400 11 11 4.008 0.022 95.57 30 45 Tom FISHER Kawasaki - G & S Racing Kawasaki 1:41.478 12 12 4.086 0.078 95.50 31 30 Rob McNEALY BMW - McNealy Brown Ltd 1:41.486 6 12 4.094 0.008 95.49 32 13 Corey WEST EBR - RS - Splitlath EBR 1:41.973 9 14 4.581 0.487 95.03 33 222 Nicolas GROBLER Kawasaki - MWR Kawasaki 1:42.120 13 13 4.728 0.147 94.90 34 33 Gary WINFIELD Kawasaki - Anvil Hire TAG Racing 1:42.765 7 12 5.373 0.645 94.30 35 121 Chris BARNES Kawasaki - AP Broome Racing 1:43.521 6 8 6.129 0.756 93.61 36 100 Connor TAGG Kawasaki - Morello Racing 1:43.553 10 12 6.161 0.032 93.58 37 22 Dan FULLER Kawasaki - Dannic Racing 1:44.540 3 6 7.148 0.987 92.70 38 5 Deane BROWN Kawasaki - Brabus / Opus 1:45.245 2 4 7.853 0.705 92.08 | ||
| Jdugger |
Wow, what a tight field. | ||
| Trojan |
Superstock is always very tight because they are all pretty stock bikes. The top riders are the ones who make the difference in this class, so it is no surprise that the top 4 have all raced in BSB Superbike recently. | ||
| Trojan |
Qualifying 1 times from this afternoon: 1 83 Danny BUCHAN Kawasaki - Tsingtao WK Kawasaki 1:37.446 4 5 99.45 2 122 Jason O'HALLORAN Honda - Honda Racing 1:37.513 13 13 0.067 0.067 99.38 3 1 Hudson KENNAUGH BMW - Linxcel Trik Moto Racing 1:38.102 4 12 0.656 0.589 98.78 4 14 Lee JACKSON BMW - Buildbase BMW Motorrad 1:38.406 3 8 0.960 0.304 98.48 5 3 Filip BACKLUND Kawasaki - SMT Racing 1:38.422 4 13 0.976 0.016 98.46 6 78 Freddy FORAY Honda - Honda Racing 1:38.629 4 13 1.183 0.207 98.26 7 11 Adam JENKINSON Kawasaki - Northern Escalator Racing 1:38.728 13 13 1.282 0.099 98.16 8 20 David JOHNSON Kawasaki - PR Racing Kawasaki 1:38.833 10 14 1.387 0.105 98.05 9 35 Gavin HUNT Kawasaki - Nei Motorsport 1:38.992 6 13 1.546 0.159 97.89 10 10 Josh ELLIOTT Kawasaki - GA / Homer Racing / Socialites Electric Cigare 1:39.009 5 13 1.563 0.017 97.88 11 86 Daniel JOHNSON Kawasaki - ICE Kawasaki Racing 1:39.319 5 12 1.873 0.310 97.57 12 2 Josh DAY Kawasaki - Be Wiser Kawasaki 1:39.334 3 9 1.888 0.015 97.56 13 28 Victor COX Kawasaki - Abpac Racing 1:39.361 10 13 1.915 0.027 97.53 14 54 Jimmy STORRAR BMW - Jimmy Storrar Racing 1:39.388 6 14 1.942 0.027 97.50 15 17 Dominic USHER Kawasaki - G&S Racing Kawasaki 1:39.437 4 13 1.991 0.049 97.46 16 55 Ashley BEECH Kawasaki - Jones-Dorling Racing 1:39.558 10 14 2.112 0.121 97.34 17 81 James EGAN Kawasaki - MWR Kawasaki 1:39.638 14 14 2.192 0.080 97.26 18 99 Michael ROBERTSON Kawasaki - MRR 1:39.763 3 13 2.317 0.125 97.14 19 80 Mike BOOTH Kawasaki - RapidSolicitors.co.uk 1:39.804 14 14 2.358 0.041 97.10 20 32 Kyle WILKS Kawasaki - Tsingtao WK Kawasaki 1:39.881 3 13 2.435 0.077 97.02 21 51 Luke QUIGLEY BMW - Bathams Prize Winning Ales / Formwise 1:39.881 12 14 2.435 0.000 97.02 22 21 Tom TUNSTALL Kawasaki - Doodson Motorsport 1:40.091 12 14 2.645 0.210 96.82 23 23 Shaun WINFIELD Kawasaki - Anvil Hire TAG Racing 1:40.275 4 9 2.829 0.184 96.64 24 8 Jesse TRAYLER Kawasaki - Morello Racing 1:40.279 10 12 2.833 0.004 96.64 25 40 Ben YOUNG Kawasaki - Team WD40 1:40.285 11 13 2.839 0.006 96.63 26 15 Leon JEACOCK Kawasaki - Allied Racing 1:40.369 11 13 2.923 0.084 96.55 27 30 Rob McNEALY BMW - McNealy Brown Ltd 1:40.592 10 11 3.146 0.223 96.34 28 45 Tom FISHER Kawasaki - G & S Racing Kawasaki 1:40.682 4 13 3.236 0.090 96.25 29 4 Johnny BLACKSHAW Kawasaki - Accident Advice Solicitors Racing 1:40.794 6 13 3.348 0.112 96.14 30 222 Nicolas GROBLER Kawasaki - MWR Kawasaki 1:40.929 4 15 3.483 0.135 96.02 31 13 Cory WEST EBR - RS - Splitlath EBR 1:40.977 12 13 3.531 0.048 95.97 32 100 Connor TAGG Kawasaki - Morello Racing 1:41.303 10 13 3.857 0.326 95.66 33 5 Deane BROWN Kawasaki - Brabus / Opus 1:41.687 9 11 4.241 0.384 95.30 34 121 Chris BARNES Kawasaki - AP Broome Racing 1:42.214 9 12 4.768 0.527 94.81 35 33 Gary WINFIELD Kawasaki - Anvil Hire TAG Racing 1:42.794 4 12 5.348 0.580 94.27 36 22 Dan FULLER Kawasaki - Dannic Racing 1:44.086 2 8 6.640 1.292 93.10 QUALIFYING LAPTIME (110.0% of 1:37.446) = 1:47.190 37 56 James EAST Kawasaki - ILR Kawasaki 1 38 53 Joe BURNS Kawasaki - JG Speedfit Kawasaki Ra | ||
| Classax |
Man they ride Kawasakis much in the BSB? I mean with the world champ on one you'd figure at least somebody would ride one? Sheesh! | ||
| Jdugger |
Stock that's the bike to be on, IMHO. The ZX-10 is cleaning house in the CMRA. | ||
| Riohondohank |
Cory tweet from today. @Corywest13: Notes from today; Oulton is wicked, field is deep, riders are fast, short sessions, I'm the only twin and I'm learning fast! #nevergiveup I figure that he is not really pushing it since he doesn't have a spare bike, just taking his time, playing it smart, and learning the track. He showed some improvement this afternoon and I bet he moves up the ladder tomorrow. | ||
| Rocket_in_uk |
Oulton is wicked Well he found another second which could mean he's learning the track. No mean thing for Oulton! It's got bags of character. I remember racing there myself a few years ago in BTCC Playstation 2 but with seat, steering wheel and pedals. Much better than a hand controller lol. Rocket in England | ||
| Riohondohank |
He didn't improve much this morning and appeared to be having issues. Only 9 laps completed, in the pits a lot the last 10 min. Qualified 33 3.38 sec off the pace. | ||
| Riohondohank |
I just found out that they decided to hold the 1000 Superstock race today because of the threat of bad weather tomorrow. He improved on his 33rd grid and picked up 8 places to finish 25th. | ||
| Hughlysses |
That seems like a respectable finish for a first effort. Go Cory! | ||
| Riohondohank |
Cory's tweet @Corywest13: 25th today from 33rd grid spot. Ran into clutch issue in QP2 and then quick shifter stopped halfway thru the race. It was difficult but fun! | ||
| Riohondohank |
@Corywest13: Thanks to my @Splitlath boys for the hard work, the #bsb fans and everyone @OfficialBSB for making me feel so welcome! Ready for Donnington! | ||
| Ljm |
Seems like a great first outing with a new team, on a new, but similar bike and on a circuit he hasn't seen before. Showed the learing curve that you would expect. Moved up a few places in the race cut off some time. Nice job, Cory. | ||
| Smoke |
congrats on the good work Cory! hope you had FUN! tim | ||
| Riohondohank |
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=omN53zD_4EQ&sns=fb |
