| Author | Message | ||
     Albert666 |
Gotta be tighter noise regs hence the larger silencer. Won't be so bothered about having to put one on mine now for track days Wonder how the panigale compares? | ||
| Jens |
Assen is a special place regarding the noise limits..... here's the Report of our 2010 victory with the EBR 1190 RR http://pegasusraceteam.com/html/assen_2010.html | ||
| Jens |
And that 's how it looks from onboard when a talented Rider linke Harald Kitsch pilotes the EBR 1190 RR at Assen TT Track to the Poleposition: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AxjRwEpwikc | ||
| Hughlysses |
Track stayed dry for 3rd and 4th practice sessions today. Press release from Team Hero/EBR: http://us5.campaign-archive2.com/?u=b1964295d7f155 fa8c439a200&id=3190fde267 | ||
| Blake |
Jens, That's one of my favorite youtube videos. No doubt that if Harald was jockey size, he'd be a contender in the elite ranks. Do you recall Harald's best Assent lap time from four years ago? | ||
| Jens |
Mine too Blake, in 2010 was mostly wet, best dry laptime in 2011 was 1:44.000 So if you say that that the tyres progressing 1sec per year, our speed was in relation to Geoff's and Aaron,s qualytime from today not too bad (-; | ||
| Blake |
Just as I suspected. Amazing. Did you apply for the WSBK job? | ||
| Hughlysses |
Very interesting photo posted to Facebook today by Geoff, with the question "What new bits do you see?"  The muffler caught my eye right off the bat, but notice that the front caliper cooling ducts have been replaced by a mesh opening in the fender and the front caliper appears to be radially mounted now. VERY interesting. | ||
| Hughlysses |
Geoff just answered his own question on FB regarding the new bits:
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| Vagelis46 |
I know that I will not get very popular by bringing this up, but what the hell ....... I wonder how much time the EBR are loosing because of the ZTL setup, compared to the 2xDiscs setup...... | ||
| Hughlysses |
I wonder how much time the EBR are loosing because of the ZTL setup, compared to the 2xDiscs setup...... I have no problem with the question, as long as you spend it with "...if any." As to the other parts, if they've just now gotten top-tier forks on the bike, it might explain a significant part of their lap time deficit. NOW they have to dial the new suspension bits in. | ||
| Jens |
@Blake, no I am too expensive (-; and it was not me alone what made the success of the 1190, it was a great Team and Rider. The ZTL works fine, just a question of the scoop size and if needed there are some additional tricks available..... | ||
| Satori |
Interesting stuff, I am most curios about the new brake caliper, as well as the forks. | ||
| Snowscum |
Wheres the new bits to make it 20mph quicker? | ||
| Vagelis46 |
Assen , 1st race ....... 2 engine failures for both May and Yates ..... May's engine problem caused a red flag .... | ||
| Hughlysses |
Complete results from 1st race: http://resources.worldsbk.com/files/results/2014/N ED/SBK/001/CLA/Results.pdf This shows Yates out at 10 laps, but unless I'm missing something, May finished in 19th place on the lead lap (?). | ||
| Stevel |
I just watched Yates first and then May experience in race 1 what looks like head gasket failure............again! I doubt we will know what this failure really is, but that's my best guess at the moment. It was May's failure the stopped the race on lap 17. I'm pretty sure we are going to see a cylinder redesign in the near future. | ||
| Hughlysses |
Press release: http://us5.campaign-archive1.com/?u=b1964295d7f155 fa8c439a200&id=7689823e80 The team is opting not to participate in race 2 so they can diagnose the failures that occurred in race 1. | ||
| Hughlysses |
Better photos of new bits on front of bike:  and a close-up:  Contrary to my earlier guess, the new caliper does not seem to be radially mounted. | ||
| Classax |
Wow...that looked like something in the top end let loose. I hate to see the team struggling like this. Its almost like they are going backwards a step for every half a step forward. Good they are willing to admit and take the time to solve the issues. This is what a learning year is like. | ||
| Hughlysses |
Maybe they jacked the compression substantially to increase power, which caused the top end failures? (Message edited by Hughlysses on April 27, 2014) | ||
| 2kx1 |
5 seconds down per lap is better than 10. Still down 25-30 kilometers in top speed. Blowing head gaskets due to compression and not a cooling problem is kinda crazy!! | ||
| Stevel |
Head gasket failure has little to do with compression ratio. It has everything to do with bore instability. You will note that the bore has only one connection on the top at the chain case side. It has 4 water slots at the bottom, but otherwise open at the top. Increasing the bore size from 103mm to 106mm has left the cylinder wall too thin and is moving around under temperature and load. EBR has been suffering this failure for two years, even in AMA competition. The cylinder head also has 4 water slots. Changing the cylinder casting to a 4 slot deck to match the head and increasing cylinder wall thickness will solve the problem as it will add symmetrical bore support and increased deck surface for the gasket. | ||
| Snowscum |
Bummer! | ||
| Ebmachine |
It looks like it may be time to O-Ring the head to ensure sealing like they do with supercharged engines. | ||
| Court |
This is going to be fun and THIS is THE reason that racing is a game in which everyone wins. Tons of data flowing in . . . . based on real world experience and a ton of talented Elves hard at work. This is the way good things start. I'm excited. | ||
| Blake |
I feel like kicking someone. Fire the current team and hire Jens and his guys. How's that for excitement. To date, the WSBK effort has been a literal living nightmare. They missed proper testing, twice. They're no where near competitive; because of that Geoff pushes too hard and gets injured, AND the engines are blowing! Then in a wet race where engine performance is not a factor, the team quits, doesn't even compete! Someone needs FIRED! Hire Jens and team. Give Geoff and Aaron a fighting chance. The current team management is a joke. | ||
| Stevel |
Ebmachine..........You can't use copper "O" ring technique with aluminum deck surfaces. The aluminum is too soft. Court..........You are absolutely correct. This will force EBR into a design change, which will benefit the whole community. This engine has not benefited from evolutionary development. Now it can. There are several small faults that need to be corrected. Hopefully, this is the start. | ||
| Hughlysses |
Woah! Blake, I think that's the first time I've ever seen you criticize a Buell/EBR factory effort. I guess that says a lot. It is very hard for us to see where they're going with this given the present rate of progress. The quote regarding this year's WSBK effort from the interview with Erik in the June issue of Motorcyclist magazine is very curious (page 46):
I think most of us are a bit flummoxed by their showings so far. I can't see that they're getting any usable PR out of this other than getting the two company's names out there. The only thing that makes any sense to me based is that Erik really meant what he said. Maybe they knew going in they had no chance of willing and the whole purpose of this year's effort is to identify areas for improvement that can be incorporated in next year's bikes, which might have a chance of winning? Any other ideas? | ||
| Jscott |
Proper testing and at least one experienced WSBK rider have been the most aggregious missteps. The world stage is not the place to do testing. |
