| Author | Message | ||
     Bads1 |
Lil rumor that Dominguez will ride for Team RSRacecraft on Kawasaki last rounds and possible factory support. They didn't do well on the EBR. Have to see what unfolds | ||
| Firstbuell |
hey Bads1, it must be tough for DD to accept his season so far - best of luck to him on that Kaw I'm surprised that any factory support will be part of RSR's program - exactly how convincing can their team owner actually be? | ||
| Svh |
With the whole DMG TV deal mess it will be interesting to see how sponsorship money goes next year. Not giving fans a way to view your final race of the season, especially in a season that may come down to that race, is beyond idiotic. I really wonder if France even knows what these fools are doing with his series. I hope I am wrong but if something doesn't change soon I think the end is near(less than 5yrs). | ||
| Trojan |
I really wonder if France even knows what these fools are doing with his series. Surely if it is his series he must have an idea of what is going on? I agree that this is beyond stupid though, and surely must give the AMA a good shake up. if they can't even agree a TV deal for the country's top Superbike race what chance to US riders have of getting noticed on the world stage, or even getting sponsorship even to race in the US. I think we'll be seeing a few more US riders in BSB next year  | ||
| Bads1 |
Plenty of talent here for sure Matt. | ||
| Trojan |
Plenty of talent here for sure Matt. I certainly wouldn't argue there. PJ Jacobsen and Tommy Aquino have both shown that they can run at the front of the BSB/Superstock pack respectively this year, so I hope that we get to see JD Beach, Cameron Beaubier, Jake Gagne and other exciting young US riders here in the next few years I sadly really can't see opportunities opening up for them if they stay in the US to race . | ||
| Jaimec |
So... who's going to be in Millville this weekend?? | ||
| Smoke |
me. crewing the yellow Thrashed Bike XR for Dave Estok. tim | ||
| Bads1 |
To my understanding Kenny Roberts has got iron on the stove for getting a couple bikes going in Moto2 for next year.... hopeful but 2015 is a better time frame as to what hees saying. I guess his aim is at the US riders naming the ones you listed. That would be a good thing. | ||
| Bads1 |
Looks like I was part correct. Hes going to start development on the Kawasaki 636r In DSB. I guess you can say bye bye to the EBR after this year. What will happen with Cory I wonder??? | ||
| Trojan |
Kenny should be looking at running a world championship team, not just in AMA. His talents as a team owner are wasted in domestic championships and production bikes surely? It is going to take someone like Roberts or Schwantz to grab the attention and get a US based Moto2 squad off the ground. I know the monocoque chassis Taylor Made (now rebadged as a Brough Superior in the strangest marketing tie up I have seen for years!) is going to race in 'selected' Moto2 rounds next year, probably with a US rider, but it needs a full time comittment not just occasional wild card outings. | ||
| Xb1125r |
were are the marketing guys from AMA, there ass should be fired. they should be bringing investors like Mircrosoft, Apple, oracle. I mean the CEO of oracle spends hundres of millions on his boat, he could be spanking the apple and microsoft at the track. and how about the financial guys. ING, BOA. AMA should be bring all these sponsors to the teams. the top 19% of america has been getting richer with Obama, thee is plenty of money out there. | ||
| Jaimec |
Here's the rub: Those people don't WANT to share their profits. They want it all for themselves and to HELL with anyone else. It's amassing wealth for no other reason than to amass wealth. | ||
| Trojan |
AMA should be bring all these sponsors to the teams It isn't up to the organisers to arrange sponsorship for the teams, that is for the individual teams to chase. However, if the AMA/DMG can't/won't televise racing on channels that people can actually watch without having to jump through hoops then sponsors won't be interested in supporting racing. The majority of sponsors (and I have known some exceptions) don't know anything about bike racing so to them it simply another advertising stream. If you can't give them figures/evidence that it is worth their while they go elsewhere. Apple/Microsoft etc need to get something out of sponsorship that they currently don't get from TV or other sports sponsorship. It is difficult to see what they would get currently that would attract them to AMA racing. I have been involved in both sides of the fence, both as a team chasing money and as a minor sponsor, and I can tell you that some teams just take the money and you never hear from them again until next years cheque is due. They then get surprised when you don't want to support them! Teams need to attract and retain sponsors by building a relationship and giving them 'extras' such as corporate hospitality and appearances rather than just relying on TV coverage, and that means the teams getting more professional. The difference between the very professional 'corporate' BSB paddock and the AMA paddock is quite startling when you look at them together. AMA is more like a club meeting whereas BSB has huge corporate hospitality areas for every top team. BSB has gone about 'professionalising' the paddock quite deliberately over the years, even to the point of teams being told that if their transporters etc aren't professional looking they will have to park elsewhere. Top teams employ a lot of people to look after their sponsors, so there is no such thing as a free lunch  | ||
| Reepicheep |
"The problem with communism is that eventually, you run out of other peoples money." I've always been a big EBR fan. I was becoming a big AMA racing fan, it was fun even when EBR wasn't at the top. Now they moved it to a channel I can't get on my cable tier, so instead of waiting a few hours to see it (which mostly ruined it), I have to wait a week to see it (which completely ruins it). They should lower costs and just stream it live. Or bill me for a "virtual ticket" to watch a live stream. I'll buy a $1.99 "virtual race ticket". I'm not going to sign up for a whole new cable tier to get it. | ||
| Jaimec |
Before anybody is willing to part with their hard earned cash, the racing teams have to be able to PROVE there would be some VALUE in it. You can't get sponsorship if no one even knows about the event or the teams being sponsored. That is solely in the hands of the France family. DMG was awarded the contract because they would do a better job of promoting the series than the AMA. The AMA sold the series because it was a "distraction" from their primary purpose of protecting motorcyclists rights and fighting STUPID, anti-motorcycling laws at the Federal (and to some extent, the State) level. DMG has bolluxed up their end of the deal BADLY. They ASSUMED they could package and sell the series just like NASCAR. They were wrong and they need to FIX it. | ||
| 46champ |
One of the problems with DMG is they tried to treat motorcycle roadracing as NASCAR circa 1990 and not what it was NASCAR late 1950' early 1960's. | ||
| Sparky |
Since they say that there is not going to be TV coverage of the final round of AMA Superbike races at Laguna this year, is there any way of finding out if AMA will have DVR coverage of this race on their DVR website, if that's possible? I'm sure that TV coverage of FIM WSBK by BeIn is a conflict with coverage of AMA Pro Road Racing by CBS Sports Network, but what do I know? | ||
| Jaimec |
Both Aaron and Geoff's bikes had this date on their swing-arm this weekend:  Some exciting news October 16? I shook Erik's hand yesterday and said that I can't wait for the day when there is something AFFORDABLE with his name on it. He smiled and said "We're working on it!" | ||
| Hughlysses |
October 16 is first day of AIMExpo motorcycle show in Orlando, where EBR will be present and hosting their dealers. October 16, 2013 is 4 years to the day since the Buell closure announcement. Seems like a good bet for a big announcement to me. | ||
| Jumbo_petite |
The shutdown announcement was on the 10/15/09 did the shutdown start on 10/16/09? | ||
| Bads1 |
Great race but I do feel Hayes got robbed on that penalty. If the bike moved it was 2 inches. Eslick FINALLY showed that he can ride the bike. All year he hasn't done a thing. Herrin is showing 100% turn around from the beginning of the season. Cardenas is as you can see going to be a force to recon with. | ||
| Jaimec |
I agree. Hayes gained NOTHING from that jump start, especially since he stopped and pretty much let everyone else ahead before proceeding. The five second penalty was excessive. I think the AMAPro officials are starting to feel a recurrence of "Mat Mladin-itis" and are doing everything possible to keep one man from dominating the series again so soon. | ||
| Xb1125r |
like I said before, the champ should be released after 2 chanmpionchips, you need to let other young guns at the sport, so its not boring. the champ of AMA should be the only one who gets a garanteed ride at the motgogp at the races in american tracks. that gives him exposure and hopefully that would land him a ride with a crt team. motogo GP is making tons of american money, they need to also help AMA. | ||
| Jaimec |
It means a whole lot more to BEAT the previous champion than to just have the title handed to you because the previous winner was disqualified because he won enough already. Can you imagine if the ATF told Federer he'd already won enough titles and had to stop playing? Or Rafa Nadal? Of course, I wouldn't mind at all if the MLB told the Yankees to just "go away." Sheesh!! | ||
| Jaimec |
That logic reminds me of a story that came out when I was still a kid. The Taiwanese were told they were not welcome at the INTERNATIONAL Little League Tournaments because the other kids had no chance to beat them. Sounds like THOSE were the values that were instilled in you. Unless you can beat the best, you can't claim that you've earned the title. Period. | ||
| Trojan |
motogo GP is making tons of american money Please explain? Laguna reputedly pays the least of any track during the season to host a MotoGP race because they don't have Moto2 or Moto3. Indy is on borrowed time and COTA hasn't had a chance to put much money into MotoGP yet after just one race. If you look at teams, riders, and sponsors there is very little American input when compared to Spanish, Italian and Asian money. The US may be a huge market for the bike manufacturers, but I really don't think the US contributes hugley to MotoGP in terms of money. | ||
| Bads1 |
Matt Indy is spending Money on the track not just for Bikes but for Indy car's. Which brings lots of money. Indy is negotiating a long term contract as we speak. We already know it will be there next year and the contract was up this year. Laguna is the one that has problems with a new contract as well as need many upgrades in the pits to my understanding. | ||
| Trojan |
I don't dispute that Indy spends lots of money on the track, but how much actually goes to MotoGp with just one meeting per year? I think MotoGP is just a grateful beneficiary of the scraps they throw after they spend on car racing. Laguna has got away with paying the minimum to DORNA for years and that must have been a financial thorn in the side to them, so the arrival of COTA (which can pay for all 3 GP classes of course) was an almost certain nail in the coffin for Laguna, despite it being popular with rider and spectators. I think the new circuts in new markets (Asia/South America/Middle East) wishing to host future GP rounds will be forced to pay even more than the current 'classic' circuits, and it won't be long before we see some favourite and more traditional European rounds axed in favour of high paying races in Asian markets. Shame, but you only have to look at F1 to see where our sport is heading in terms of marketing and audience. | ||
| Bads1 |
But F1 is what Indy is working on. They are completely revamping the infield. Quite frankly that's where it needs it though. Laguna is reported as a possible getting axed this year?? |
