| Author | Message | ||
     Xb1125r |
the amaproracing has not upload the latest race, only showing daytona | ||
| Sparky |
You're on the wrong page, dude. Go here for Round 2 results. | ||
| Riohondohank |
He is not speaking about the results, but about the video of the races that they did with Daytona. http://www.amaprolive.com/rr/dvr/ I asked about this on their Facebook page and have not received an answer, so I am not sure if they are going to continue the practice. There may be a problem with their contract with CBS Sports Channel that prevents it, as Daytona was broadcast on Speed. (Message edited by RioHondoHank on June 06, 2013) (Message edited by RioHondoHank on June 06, 2013) | ||
| Dennis_c |
Want to watch the races Call 1-800-462-9450 DIRECTV then mention my account number #051129536 and each one of us will get $10 off our bill for 10 months. DIRECTV is much better than Time Warner. | ||
| Gregtonn |
The races have been re-aired several times on CBSSN (channel 158 on Dish). Superbike race 2 will air again tomorrow at 1:00 PM EDT. G | ||
| Riohondohank |
YouTube links to all the Road America races as broadcast by CBS Sports Channel. http://youtu.be/gvVG26qx0xo http://youtu.be/2ESkSGLmhb0 http://youtu.be/7V7xuSEGK7Y http://youtu.be/4L3E0IZtkPQ | ||
| Xb1125r |
thanks dude | ||
| Xb1125r |
wow CBSsport is really doing a good job, beats SPEED hands down | ||
| Bads1 |
Looks like a rumor is that the AMA races for Laguna will not be televised. WTF!!! | ||
| Jaimec |
Problem with CBS Sports is that it is "Standard Definition" only. I've gotten SPOILED watching the races in HD on beIN and Speed. And beIN has the BEST coverage by far. No commercial interruptions at all during the race. I've gotten so disgusted with Speed coming back from a commercial break only to learn someone crashed out, or there was a spectacular overtake that completely changed the complexion of the race, etc. My friend said it was like the pit crews were holding up signs: "Commercial break, make your pass NOW!!" | ||
| Mog |
I am trying to get into town again to watch on the Hell's Kitchen TV in Wilmington, NC. The KTM looks to be a real threat to the EBR, go Erik & crew!!! What are the specific show start times for the CBS SuperBike race on this Saturday and Sunday?  | ||
| Crusty |
http://www.amaproracing.com/rr/events/tvlistings.c fm?year=2013 | ||
| Mog |
Crusty, Thanks so much. Thought I had placed it on the desk top last time but it got displaced along with some other stuff when a RAM stick crashed the puter. It is on the desk top now. CBS Sports, Sat., July 13th show begins 1:30pm and SBK Race#1 is at 3pm...... Sun 14th begins 2pm and SBK Race#2 (schedule says Race 1 but is a typo?) is at 3pm.  Sat. 81F @10mph ENE, Sun 87F @7mph SE | ||
| Xdigitalx |
http://www.amaprolive.com/rr/ | ||
| Smoke4ndmears |
Not a bad race for EBR! Still getting mugged by the big boys though. Almost a 5pmh difference in trap speeds overall. | ||
| Blake |
Ohio is no high speed track and a 5 MPH diff. is hardly "getting mugged." Traction control can make that much difference. | ||
| Hughlysses |
On his last Pitpass Radio interview a couple of weeks ago, Geoff May mentioned that the rules were changed since last season and allow all the teams to run custom-ground cams. EBR hasn't had a chance to develop any because, according to Geoff, all the engineers have been working on the upcoming new production models. He said that as a result some the other teams had made power gains that EBR had not. Hopefully with $15M in the bank (and $10M more on the way) EBR will be able to quickly rectify that problem, and the lack of traction control quickly. | ||
| Imonabuss |
More than 5mph. In qualifying 2, Hayes went 180mph, Geoff went 167. Check out the AMA individual segment times. The power difference is HUGE. | ||
| J2blue |
I didn't know about the rule change for cams. Certainly there is a huge gap between the top 4 or 5 bikes and the rest of the field. I'm not quiet sure how to artificially subtract that advantage to make a virtual comparison of all the bikes. Is it enough to gain 2 seconds a lap? | ||
| Hughlysses |
Here's a link to the interview where Geoff mentions the rules change regarding cams: http://www.pitpassradio.com/podcast/index.php?id=1 291 | ||
| Smoke4ndmears |
Actually yes, 5mph is getting mugged in racing. | ||
| Reepicheep |
Only giving a 200cc displacement advantage in return for a 100% cylinder advantage never made any sense to me from a simple physics standpoint. It seems like the twins are still getting screwed. | ||
| Riohondohank |
Physics wise it is more about the amount of air an engine will pump rather than the number of cylinders. The amount of fuel air mixture equals horsepower. A 1000 cc engine turning 12,000 rpm should equal a 1200 cc engine turning 10,000 rpm. Of course there are many other variables such stroke length that effects torque curve. The AMA has attempted to make a level playing field since Superbike existed but it is difficult to make an orange equal an apple. They are just two different animals. When Cory West's dad was racing for me they were 750 cc fours and 1000 cc twins and the twins were given a 50 lb weight advantage, but we still couldn't keep up. The 4 valve Ducati changed that. (Message edited by RioHondoHank on July 15, 2013) | ||
| M2typhoon |
The fact that most of the twins are finishing in the same spots from race to race is an immediate signal that the AMA should do something for the twins Buell or not. | ||
| Bads1 |
No its just development. Both the KTM and the EBR are very early in development and also both companies are a bit slender on funding comparison to the big four. | ||
| Reepicheep |
Thanks Hank, do we know what are the relative peak RPM's for the twins versus the inline fours? Seems to me that if an inline four is only revving 20% higher, given that they only have to move their pistons 50% as far in the same amount of time... that the inline four designers must not be trying very hard. And for pumping air, given the inline fours have twice as much potential intake areas as twins, wouldn't they also have a 100% "breathing" advantage over the twins? I guess the cam rotational speed ends up being the limiting factor on the fours, while piston speed ends up being the limiting factor on the twins. (at least until the 4's go to pneumatic or electric valves or something.) | ||
| Riohondohank |
As I mentioned there are a lot of variables involved. One is the fours have twice as many valves so the valves can be smaller which allows higher rpm before valve float. As I mentioned the four valve Ducatis finally allowed the twin to start winning in Superbike and one of the factors that helped them was the desmodromic valve system. Bottom line though is twins and fours are different animals, so it is extremely hard to find a level playing field. | ||
| Riohondohank |
I am not sure what the peak RPM that the fours are turning, but it is more than the twins. I do know that some of the EBR problems at Daytona were valve related because they were pushing the envelope on RPM in the quest for more HP. | ||
| Xdigitalx |
Curious..How come there is no Ducati Panigal in the SuperBike Race?? 1199 v-twin? How well do you think that bike would do?? | ||
| Bads1 |
Ducati is only involved IN WSB and Moto GP. if you wanna run a Duc your doing out of your own pocket. The Duc isn't doing well in WSB either...... early development. |
