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Blake
| Posted on Tuesday, August 17, 2004 - 03:14 am: |
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http://venus.13x.com/roadracingworld/scripts/NewsInsert.asp?insert=10265 I mean with his ability to garner attention, you'd think they would be all over the fact that Jordan is involved in AMA Pro Racing. Why aren't they? This should be HUGE for motorcycling. Up to now, it's pretty much been a non-issue. Bigotry in AMAPR? |
Blake
| Posted on Tuesday, August 17, 2004 - 03:22 am: |
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More on Jordan's involvement in motorcycle road racing. This has gotta be really really good for the sport... http://venus.13x.com/roadracingworld/scripts/NewsInsert.asp?insert=10274 Maybe finally moto racing in America will have a chance to step up to the level it enjoys in the rest of the developed world. |
BadS1
| Posted on Tuesday, August 17, 2004 - 08:19 am: |
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Hes out there so he can promote his Jumpman clothing line.That was told to my brother actually while they were staying at there hotel where my brother has a condo in Elkhart Lake.It came out of one his peoples mouths.That weekend the guys from Jackass,the shows thats on MTV put hundreds of Jackass stickers all over his Ferarri.When I seen the car Sunday at the races it was already detailed.LOL |
Glitch
| Posted on Tuesday, August 17, 2004 - 08:20 am: |
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I don't get it. He puts on pair of underware and they start selling like crazy. He drinks a Coke and sales go way up. He puts on a pair of shoes and kids are killing each other over them. Looks as tough anything he puts his name on turns to gold, but in the US if it has something to do with sport bikes you don't hear anything about it outside the circle? Bettcha if he started "building" choppers, they'd line up for 'em. Hopefully I'm getting ahead of myself and the US will see sport biking as a true sport and not a dangerous fringe group of hooligans. Can you tell I'm jealous of the crowds of people you see at any other track outside of the US? |
Buckinfubba
| Posted on Tuesday, August 17, 2004 - 09:07 am: |
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maybe if he had a rider that would actually place the bike somewhere it would make a difference. montez sits out with an injury at road america and pascal picotte gets on the bike and places 8th, whats the best montez has done? its sad but it kinda looks like a tax right of for mister jordan. sometimes it does come down to substance, and right now his team is runnin pretty low on that and unless pridmore is part of the team for real, instead of just an advertisement, none of this will make a splash. its just throwing his money around. you have to get in the ring and play. I had high hopes for this but he ain't doing nuthin to promote it. hey micheal put your mug on the tv and do the promotion (Message edited by buckinfubba on August 17, 2004) |
Blake
| Posted on Tuesday, August 17, 2004 - 09:09 pm: |
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Brian, Did you read the 2nd article? Dana, Every sponsor is out to promote their wares. Why should Jordan be any different. |
BadS1
| Posted on Tuesday, August 17, 2004 - 09:27 pm: |
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I supose but what does High top tennis shoes and warm up suits and the like got to do with motorcycle racing???This ain't Space Jam!!!! TH TH THA THA Thats all folks. |
Midknyte
| Posted on Tuesday, August 17, 2004 - 11:26 pm: |
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Maybe he'll star in a an animated movie with cartoon motorcycles. No wait, that's been done. Torque... |
R1DynaSquid
| Posted on Tuesday, August 17, 2004 - 11:29 pm: |
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Jordans heart isnt in it. He doesnt do this type of venture because he likes winning, he does it because he has a super sized ego & likes to see his name in print. Look at Joe Gibbs, why is that everything the man touches turns to gold? Wins NFL championships, then gets into Nascar & gets not 1 but 2 championships. Gibbs does it because he puts his heart & soul into it. Winning is what drives him. Anything less is unacceptable. |
Cyclonemick
| Posted on Tuesday, August 17, 2004 - 11:46 pm: |
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I would dare to say to Michael Jordan likes winning too, How many rings does he have (6). And a couple of gold metals to boot. I'm sure Michael puts alot of enthusiam into his racing program but we don't see it because it's not mainstream. |
R1DynaSquid
| Posted on Tuesday, August 17, 2004 - 11:50 pm: |
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Its a toy for him, like his little baseball stint or being the president of the wizards. His heart isnt into it like it should be. |
Blake
| Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 01:37 am: |
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Mr. Negative speaks again. If you cannot say something nice about someone, then it is better to say nothing at all. Treat others as you would have them treat you. |
Wyckedflesh
| Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 01:37 am: |
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How many basketball players are running the Prostreet Bike circuit now? Yet the biggest influence for the Prostreet bike circuit is still Angele. This is Jordan's first season at this game. He is attacking it with caution. He did it right for the first season. Now that he has seen upclose and personal what it is going to take to be a real team owner and sponser he is shopping for the next step. Montez was a great choice of rider, why because it will cost less to have him run. This year was to establish the name in the sport, put the preverbial foot in the door. I expect to see more out of him next year and the year after that as a true business outing. |
Ebear
| Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 03:15 am: |
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I repectfully disagree Dyna!As Wycked said,this is his first year and if you caught the little piece on TWT tonight you might give the guy some slack!He's a guy with the ability to buy or do anything he wants to,has nothing to prove, and is sampling everything that interests him.After going to Daytona he said he was so jazzed by the 'energy/commotion and interaction involved in this level of racing that he decided to alter his(extremely full) schedule to attend all the Races.Unalterable plans probably kept him from Seca but I saw him at all the races I attended this year and I found he was VERY approachable and acted like an excited newbie fan rather than an advertising horse or team owner.We met "Tez" at Fontana at the Dave and Busters the night we had our Brag meeting there.Once you got past his homies and talked to him he was kinda unnassuming.Once we caught him at his garage or pit area and he could talk openly you found he was a VERY likable and open guy and was very appreciative to be sponsored by anybody,never mind Michael Jordan!He seemed to be giving his all to live up to these expectations and breaking his wrist in Colorado was a huge dissapointment and Ill bet he beat himself up over it.If you follow RoadRacing News you might have read the statement by Pridmore about Michael helping him out seemingly"just because".Jordans complete interview should air on Speed in the next couple of weeks.Ill BET if you view it with a non-jaundiced eye you may alter your opinion!Tez WAS a great choice but according to him HE asked Jordan to sponsor him,Not the other way around.Before that I dont believe Jordan was involved in racing like this.Compared to his other interests this will probably COST him rather than profit,and there just isnt a big enough fan base to benefit any other way.In fact this just may bring more people into this sport and I feel the more people involved,the more attention and support we'll benefit from. ...just my 2 cents.... |
R1DynaSquid
| Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 06:10 am: |
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Once againI give my opinion & you attack me, yet others have said the same thing & not 1 word? maybe if he had a rider that would actually place the bike somewhere it would make a difference. montez sits out with an injury at road america and pascal picotte gets on the bike and places 8th, whats the best montez has done? its sad but it kinda looks like a tax right of for mister jordan. sometimes it does come down to substance, and right now his team is runnin pretty low on that and unless pridmore is part of the team for real, instead of just an advertisement, none of this will make a splash. its just throwing his money around. you have to get in the ring and play. I had high hopes for this but he ain't doing nuthin to promote it. Its a toy to get him out of the house. He would rather sit around smoke cigars & sign autographs for basketball fans. |
Davegess
| Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 07:43 am: |
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Check our superbikepalent.com for their take onMr. jordan. |
Buckinfubba
| Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 08:27 am: |
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Dyna I think the difference is that I didn't claim to know where his heart is. I said it was a business decision. But I feel with all his celbrity power he could have spoke out more in the mainstream press about it. and yes they would have printed it because he is Jordan. I idn't expect him to win this year or even get a podium, but I did expect more. there are other privateers out there doing much better than his team and they get no press, and thats just wrong, ...so his celebrity was used but not by him. he needs to help bring this sport into the mainstream himself, because the results his team has got, when written about are nothing to right home about, and that is what the public , that doesn't understand is hearing. I am just saying he ain't doing enuff, I still think his involvement is a good thing , as long as he puts his face and name out there to help this sport that he himself likes. |
Gravedigger
| Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 08:40 am: |
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Blake, Speed television anounced last night on Two Wheeled Tuesday that they will have a 1/2 hour interview with Jordan on next weeks show. Dyna, I think that any attention that Jordan can bring to our sport (a small amount or a large) will have nothing but positive affects on it. Whether or not it is a toy to him, If it encourages one individual to join our sport, he has had a positive affect. |
R1DynaSquid
| Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 09:05 am: |
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Grave, i agree that any publicity he can bring is great. But considering his wealth & what he could bring to the table, he is not going balls out like Joe Gibbs did. If you are going to play, then play to win. |
Sandblast
| Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 11:11 am: |
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Is everybody just being really polite and ignoring one really obvious reason for Jordan to have picked Montez as a rider? Not to be the guy to say the King has no clothes, but I mean... you know. And I am going to venture a guess and say the bike and crew basically are competitive, because of AMA rules being what they are. He got his rider and his equipment and went racing, probably had a lot of fun, and maybe he got the bug and we will see more out of him next year. The only thing he could have done different to "win" would have been a different rider, and looking at the field I don't think, for his first year anyway, there was anybody quite as personally interesting to Mr. Jordan. Which is fine with me. |
Gravedigger
| Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 01:21 pm: |
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Dyna, I agree he should play to win, that is the major goal of all sports. To have winners we must first have participants. Is his contibution any less to our sport if he does not win? the Harley Davidson VR1000 project brought alot of new faces to our sport. How many times did they win? |
Wyckedflesh
| Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 03:57 pm: |
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Nope the choice of Montez has more to do with the fact Jordan already knew him. Already knew he raced and had no problem helping him get more tracktime then he already could get all the while using him as a test run to see what it would take to really participate in the sport. |
Davegess
| Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 10:59 pm: |
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Typed that link wrong www.superbikeplanet.com Very good comments on jordon. Thye take him seriously and if they do I do, very good site |
Blake
| Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 11:26 pm: |
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Envy is an insidious thing. Preponderance and history Greg. Cease all objections. Simply reply as follows: "Yes my master in all things, I shall seek the light." |
Blake
| Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 11:31 pm: |
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Jordan is a winner's winner. Simple as that. In anything competitive, do not count him out, and never ever underestimate his will to succeed. He is certainly not the type to want to sit at home smoking cigars. All things in time. Did you expect him to win the first time out of the blocks? It's all good. Absolutely nothing bad about Michael Jordan sponsoring an AMA Pro Racing team. It's ALL good. No downside, all upside. |
BadS1
| Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 11:37 pm: |
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Lets just see if he stays with it.He really hasn't stood still with anything since the Bull's for anything long term.If his clothing doesn't generate profits through cycle racing he'll move on. |
R1DynaSquid
| Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 11:47 pm: |
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As Dana points out, Jordan quits everything he gets into. How many times did he retire & then un retire? Bulls player, not a Bulls player, Bulls player, not a Bulls player, Baseball player, not a baseball player, wizards president, not wizards president, wizards player, not a wizards player, wizards president, not wizards president. Not envious at all Blake, but I would like to see the man stick to one thing for a period of time & dont go back on his word. |
BadS1
| Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 11:52 pm: |
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Like the saying goe's..... It's nothing personal it's just business!!!! |
Blake
| Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 12:22 am: |
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Some people cannot stand the success and accomplishments of others. They try to make themselves feel better through derision and criticism of others. Pathetic. |
Wyckedflesh
| Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 02:40 am: |
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wizards president, not wizards president, wizards player, not a wizards player, wizards president, not wizards president. You can not be a team owner or officer and a player at the same time. Had he been allowed to be prez and player at the same time he would have done so. Yes this is a business venture. With that in mind its safe to say if there ends up being no money in it he isn't going to keep taking a loss. I think we should however wait until such a time happens. He is already showing that he is willing to take the next step and secure sponsorship of a "winning" rider or two. |
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