| Author | Message | ||
     Blake |
One more thing Owens: >>> I have no plans of going away, I've done nothing wrong. Yes, you did. Despite your protestations to the contrary, you did indeed commence posting to this discussion for the sole purpose of personally criticizing me. There is no arguing against that fact as the entire content of your opening posts clearly show otherwise. As part of one of your attacks on me, you misrepresented my statements here asserting that I claimed that others were "wrong". I made no such assertion.. IWW went through this recently, but you apparently need a refresher: 1. You are not an arbiter of what is acceptable or unacceptable here. Understood? 2. You are to honor the requests of custodians concerning your participation here. Clear? 3. Your opinions concerning discussions should be limited to discussing the topical issues; avoiding antagonistic personal commentary is your obligation. | ||
| Blake |
Sorry all for the distraction. I'd ask that we all drop it and resume discussing MotoGP. I'm all ready looking past 2011 towards what I hope will be an exciting 2012 season with the new 1 liter machines. I know Ducati has a great engine and also Yamaha has a pretty good handle on that size machine too. Honda is the big question mark. But who knows how much the old bikes will translate to faster/better performance now with all the advancement in electrons traction control and the like. What is the difference in fuel capacity for 2007 versus 2012 for the prototype machines? | ||
| Gaesati |
Yes, it should be interesting, particularly if the factories give way to the CRT teams over time. Interestingly, they are still claiming that they have 22 confirmed rides for next year. | ||
| 46champ |
Same 21L as the 800's. Don't know how they are going to run bigger bikes with the same amount of fuel looks like a reduction in horsepower. | ||
| Blake |
Makes me wonder how long till we see an eco-boost direct injection engine in motorcycle racing? A 4-stroke 500cc twin cylinder might be competitive in that form. Let it race!  | ||
| Jaimec |
The speculation on what happens to Marco's factory Honda next year is just starting. In another vein, I'm hoping Josh Hayes makes a far better showing in Valencia than Ben Bostrom did at Laguna Seca. Unlike Ben's ride, however, Josh's season is over so he has no reason to "save himself" for another race. Sad we won't get to see Colin on the CRT bike immediately after the finale, though. It would've been interesting to see how he'd do... he's usually pretty fast in the practice "season." | ||
| Simond |
It's a shame that Yamaha have no WSB/WSS presence next year otherwise we might have seen Eugene Melandri/Laverty/Davies given the ride. | ||
| Trojan |
If he finishes top twelve, it will be a miracle. With so few starters on Sunday and the liklihood that not all will finish, a top 12 for Hayes should be viewed as distict possibility surely? | ||
| Blake |
Yeah maybe so, how many starters? It's a tall order I think though, trying to learn the Bridgestones in such short notice. Ask poor Cal. The kid can't catch a break. | ||
| Bads1 |
So far I've seen Rodger Hayden,Duhamel,and Bostrom ride a GP bike as a fill in or a wildcard. All were in the States. Rodger has done the best so far. Now Hayes is giving a go and at a track hes never layed eyes on bike included. I don't know..... will he finish??? Or could be do ok??? Not easy none the less. | ||
| Trojan |
Yeah maybe so, how many starters? If everybody is present, healthy and fit there is a maximum of 17 starters I think. We know that Simoncelli and Edwards won't start so we have 15. There is considerable doubt over Lorenzo and Spies starting at the moment too, so we probably have around 14 or 15 including Hayes starting the race (assuming Yamaha don't put another Japanese test rider on the factory bikes just to ride around 5 seconds off the pace). If Hayes can stay upright and just keep circulating he is pretty much guaranteed points and may even get a top 12 if others fall over or don't start. I think it will be a Honda walk over anyway, and probably the least entertaining race of a dismally poor season. | ||
| Jaimec |
Spies will be there. Lorenzo is still a question mark. Lorenzo has been the top "non-Honda" rider all season. Without him, it'll be a Honda romp for sure unless Ben can somehow get back into that groove he had in Assen. | ||
| Jaimec |
Another Honda romp for sure: http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2011/Lorenzo+to+miss +valencia Is it even worth watching? Maybe I'll watch it just for the Simoncelli tribute: http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2011/Nov/11110158sy m.htm | ||
| Rocketsprink |
I'll be watching the live feed via MotoGP's website. A far cry better than stupid Speed and the douche that keeps saying "Lorento". | ||
| Jaimec |
"Lorentho." It's the Castillian pronunciation. I'm not sure if the Mallorcan (Lorenzo's origin) pronunciation is the same. There's been some debate on that. I believe I saw an interview with him where he was asked his last name, and he responded "Lo REN so." At this point, Blake will ask me to provide a link, I'm sure. I'm too lazy to Google it and see if I can find it again. | ||
| Jaimec |
All right, I was curious myself and I found it: http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/banter/the-definit ive-guide-on-how-to-pronounce-lorenzo/ Funny though. You read the article and it says it's pronounced "Lo REN so" but if you listen to the video linked at the end, it sure sounds (to me) that he's saying: "Lo REN tho." Check for yourself: | ||
| Rocketsprink |
I doubt the guy on Speed is that "worldly", but ya never know. If that's the case, he's the only announcer I've heard say it that way | ||
| Trojan |
Japanese Yamaha test rider and All Japan Superbike competitor Katsuyuki Nakasuga will make his second appearance in the MotoGP premier class on behalf of 2010 World Champion Lorenzo. Yet another waste of time effort and fuel. What is the point of giving a gp ride to someone 5 seconds too slow and who is not going to be a future gp rider? Yamaha should give the ride to a promising youngster or at least Cal Crutchlow rather than a factory test man. very disappointed in their lack of vision......(again!). If Repsol Honda don't fill the podium this weekend I'll be very surprised indeed. Thankfully we still have a Moto 2 race to watch and save the weekend  | ||
| Jaimec |
And the last two stroke road race ever. Don't forget that, Matt. Next year is Moto3. | ||
| Trojan |
Thankfully we still have a Moto 2 race to watch and save the weekend I've just read that Marc Marquez is still suffering form double vision after his Malaysia crash and probably won't race this weekend, thus gifting the Moto2 title to Stefan Bradl after all. Hopefully it will still be a good race but with the championship decided the wind has rather gone out of it now  At least the final 125 championship has gone down to the wire......It will be interesting to see how the new Moto 3 bikes perform next year in their place, and I shall certainly miss the sound and smell of the two stroke classes | ||
| Jaimec |
At Indianapolis my friends and I were really enjoying the 125GP, knowing that this was the last time we'd ever get to see two stroke road bikes racing. The sounds and smells are "Classic" motorcycle racing. I enjoyed the 125GP more than the Moto2. In Indy, I don't know if you remember, the Moto2 was a MotoGP-style processional with the winner winning by a country mile. I even made a Facebook comment at the time: "So much for a spec engine yielding close racing." I don't remember who won, because frankly, I just didn't care... | ||
| Trojan |
I enjoyed the 125GP more than the Moto2. In Indy, I don't know if you remember, the Moto2 was a MotoGP-style processional with the winner winning by a country mile. I even made a Facebook comment at the time: "So much for a spec engine yielding close racing." I don't remember who won, because frankly, I just didn't care... Hmmm. At Indy this year the Moto2 race was won by Marc Marquez by just 1.8 seconds (a country mile by Moto2 standards) ahead of a great duel for 2nd - 5th places that had gone on for lap after lap and included 3 riders who hadn't figured near the front all year up to that point dicing it out with Bradley Smith and Scott Redding (who qualified 11th). It was only in the last 2-3 laps that the order stabilised to some extent at the front of the the Moto2 race and Marquez made a break. Maybe you just didn't pay attention to it, but I hardly think it falls into the same category as the boring majority of MotoGP races this year | ||
| Jaimec |
On another note: Don't know to whom this would apply but MotoGP just issued an update to their Android app, and it crashes on start on my phone. Fortunately, I was able to restore the previous version but I thought I'd give people here a "Head's Up" that you might want to avoid the latest update. | ||
| Trojan |
Don't know to whom this would apply but MotoGP just issued an update to their Android app, and it crashes on start on my phone. What's an android? Come to think of it...what's a phone? Welcome to Ye Merry Olde England. Having been without broadband in the office for 9 days I'm starting to regress I think !!!! God bless the dongle! | ||
| Gaesati |
Thanks for the link on how to pronounce Lorenzo, Jaimec. It's amazing what turns up in fanzines! I often wondered about the dialectical differences in Spanish. | ||
| Whitetrashxb |
regarding the pronunciation of Lorenzo, we asked Jonathon Green about it, and he stated the 'th' is proper for his home region, but outside of that the 'z' is standard, fwiw.. P.S. anyone seen 'Fastest" yet? or know where/when to see it? It was screened this year at the Harvest Classic Rally in Lukenbach, but i missed it... | ||
| Blake |
The Lorentho pronunciation sounds really wrong to me, like a lithp. If that's what Jorge prefers though, it's all good. Green is a horrid announcer. He babbles on inanely throughout the entire race and his nasaly raspy voice grates on the spine. I sometimes turn the volume off just to find some relief from his raspy grating nasal babble. | ||
| Whitetrashxb |
lol thats funny.. i've hung out with him a few times at local get togethers since he moved here last year and we have some moto buddies in common. I haven't really been following WSB so i didn't know who he was until someone mentioned it. Pretty chipper and pleasant fellow from our few meetings, so i decided to check out a race just to hear him announce.. but i didn't listen long | ||
| Jaimec |
When I took Spanish in High School, we were taught the "proper Castillian" pronunciation even though New York has a very high population of Puerto Ricans who do NOT pronounce the "z" as "th." I still remember being called up for my graduation as: "HI may Crooth." Good thing I recognized that pronunciation of my name. Being American born, I was ALWAYS "JAY me Crooz." | ||
| Blake |
Green lives in Austin, Texas? Yeah, seems like a nice enough guy, certainly enthused about the racing, but sheesh. His color commentator is the opposite of the spectrum usually. Very calm soothing voice. It's funny sometimes, he'll have to reign in Jonathan from some of his overly-exuberant pronouncements. Like when he calls the race winner with multiple laps yet to go. I'll have to look at him in a new light now that he's a fellow Texas transplant. We're all irritating to the natives. LOL. |
