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Buell101
Posted on Saturday, August 08, 2009 - 11:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I recently purchased an 1125r and just got my race license. I am getting it ready for my first ccs event and have a couple of questions that hopefully can get answered. I've searched this forum and am getting cross eyed and hoped someone could help make this easier..

1. Best way to mount the belly pan with stock exhaust?

2. Best DOT tires I am running bone stock with latest flash?

3. What should be my next race mod purchase?

4. Anything else I need to do?? Ive denoided, safety wired to ccs standards, exhaust wrap, heat reflective tape on inner frame around air box to hopefully stop the gas boiling thing...

any help is greatly appreciated
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Blake
Posted on Sunday, August 09, 2009 - 12:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

1. Belly pan mounting: Just hold it in place and giterdone. I'm going on experience from my Cyclone's belly pan. I dunno about best, just do it.

2. I really like Pirelli. You'll probably be well served by the medium or hard compound.

3. If you already have excellent racing safety gear, then suspension upgrades and tuning would be the first investment I'd go for with a new track bike.

4. Stop worrying about fuel boiling.

Good luck!
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Buelldyno_guy
Posted on Sunday, August 09, 2009 - 01:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

We put the bike on the lift, then held the belly pan in place using a scissor jack as we trimmed it to fit. Home Depot or any good hardware store carries some kind of aluminum flat stock. We used four pieces 3/4 wide by .080 thick and about 10 inches long. Attach them L,R,F&R and with the pan in place look to see where and how to bend them to pick up 4 1/4-20 nut locations. You will do fine and good luck at the track. ... Terry - www.jtsperformance.com
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Smoke
Posted on Sunday, August 09, 2009 - 06:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

send me your email address and i will send some pix of bellypan mounting on 1125r. where are you making your debut. i'll be riding mine at Barber next weekend. i'm running supercorsa pro's right now but have run slicks and supercorsa 3's as well. i have run strada's at trackdays before at a good pace. the best thing you can do now is get your suspension adjusted properly. email tim@arrowaviationco.com good luck,
tim
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Buell101
Posted on Sunday, August 09, 2009 - 11:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks everyone for the posts, I will forget about the boiling gas, I'm use to drag racing squeezing every HP possible, there is more to focus on in road racing.

my debut is at my local track www.blackhawkfarms.com in 2 weeks. I will probably have to settle for a friday test day have a wedding to go to... with any luck I can get in a race Sunday, has anyone ran michelin power ones? email is jahanson1978@yahoo.com

good luck at Barber, Josh
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Hurricaneleah
Posted on Sunday, August 09, 2009 - 05:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

101,

I would also suggest replacing the stock brake pads, especially if you have a 2008. you can get by if you have a 2009 and the SE-7 compound, but you can't go wrong with the 2015 nissin race pad compound available from Hebry Duga/Buell racing.

In my opinion, the next best bang for the buck upgrade on an 1125R is a race shock or a re-sprung stock shock. I tried racing on the stock shock and it was always compromised (as any street shock would be). Went with a single rate racetech spring and racetech re-valve and it worked outstanding.

good luck,

WFO
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Paint_shaker
Posted on Sunday, August 09, 2009 - 06:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

1. A helping hand and some imagination.

2. I have raced Pirella SuperCorsa and Bridgestone 003. Both seem to have the same traction characteristics. The B-stones wear a bit better and cost less.

3. Suspension, braking and steering damper.

4. More throttle, less brake!! Enjoy!!
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Smoke
Posted on Monday, August 10, 2009 - 05:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

buell101, did the pictures go through? Blackhawk was the first track i ran stradas at. have fun and keep a smile on.
tim
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Tnxbrider
Posted on Monday, August 10, 2009 - 05:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ran Power Ones at track day this last weekend, completely shredded a very expensive "C" compound rear.

The "V" compound front holds the track really well.

Steering dampener and a really good suspension tune should be your first priority. no wait a minute finishing the day without scuffing up your bike or your butt should be first priority

"no one ever won a race they did not finish"


Good luck,
T
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Buell101
Posted on Monday, August 10, 2009 - 09:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks for all the post, I am looking at getting an upgrade in forks hopefully getting them back by the 21st for the track. Any thoughts on racetech revalve ect. vs. the Buell 25mm kit any thoughts? Looking to pull the trigger quickly.

Tnxbrider, I seen a set of michelin DOT mediums on sportbiketrackgear.com for $240 Is it worth it? thx
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Sethbuchbinder
Posted on Monday, August 10, 2009 - 10:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Next component to spend your $ to get your 1125 going faster is a custom part commonly known as "seat time". dont go changing shocks and forks, or modding the engine on a bike that you aren't familiar with. spend your $ on a bunch of track days and take the time to learn your new machine so when you do spend that $1200 on a fancy fork, youll know what its doing to the feel of the bike.

Id race it just as you have it set up with the acception of the break pads and tires, also dont waste big coin on the best super soft mega $ i. a set of the older style dragon super corsas will do you fine and save you like $150 per set over the current Diablos.

Once you get to the point where your riding the snot out of the bike and cant possibly get it to go any faster as it is, then start with the suspension mods etc. In the end youll be a better (faster) rider and have a much better appreciation and understanding of the modifications you've made.

just my .02 but this method has worked pretty well for me accept for the part where I actually get around to spending $ to upgrade the bike.... Im poor.

good luck

Seth Buchbinder
CCS/ASRA # 148

S
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Alessio66xb12r
Posted on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 09:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

+1 on Dragon sc1(soft)front and sc2(medium)rear.
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Alessio66xb12r
Posted on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 05:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

...i forgot, even not replacing the rear shock or the entire front end find a way to raise or lower the front and the rear ends . you will find the best eight on front and rear on each track ...in my little experience i found this step the MOST important step in setting the bike for circuit only use. making changes on front usually are not a problem , rear changes without an adjustable shock are more problematics but doable working on the seat using shims or somethings similar.
hope you understand what i mean
don't forget this is one of the most important step in setting the bike.
stock eights usually are not the best for you and for that use.
I must say that the rear seats of new Buells are higher than any jap rockets like gixxers r1's exct. exct. so better suited for circuit than others..but find your own way thrust me.
bye Alessio
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Buell101
Posted on Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 10:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The other component is confidence. Knowing my bike can handle well beyond my riding level helps me be faster, plus I will need the parts eventually. Like a lot of people here I am hopelessly addicted.

I'm going with Michelin Power 1 race it's hard to beat the price plus the track record holder at blackhawk uses them. Also ordered the Nissin race pads and thicker rotor. Hopefully will be here to install this weekend.
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Crash7
Posted on Friday, August 14, 2009 - 09:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I run Michelin tires and they work great. I suggest buying your tires at the track from a vender. I pay $385 a set for mine and I usually run a V front with a A or B rear depending on weather. I would ask the tire vender what to run on your bike because they are very knowledgeable. The reason that I suggest buying them at the track is because when I first started racing I purchased some "race" Michelins from a local dealer and they were not actual race tires. Nobodys fault, we just didn't know. They worked ok, but are nothing like the real deal. I hope this helps. I will be racing at Blackhawk the next race if you have questions.
-am #300 Buell XB12
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