| Author | Message | ||
     Littledog1 |
Bob, Arn't the PM rear wheels 5.5"? I run PM's with 180's on my S1 on the street and I have experienced excellent wear characteristics. Mickey | ||
| Li8ning |
Yes, the PM's are 5.5", but they are also heavier and since this is a race bike, I didn't want to do that. I got with Kosman and they will widen the rim 0.5" for me. Sort of expensive, but then I can run the latest rubber with the contact patch as it should be. Bob | ||
| Rempss |
Bob, You mat want to buy the PM's if the price is right compared to Kosman cost. According to Battle2Win Volume 1 Issue 3 page 46: Castalloy - front 10lbs 15.0oz, rear 15lbs 10.5oz PM - front 12lbs 0.0oz, rear 15lbs 6.5oz Marchesini - front 10lbs 8.0oz, rear 14lbs 15.0oz Weighed with bearings and valve stems installed, but without brake rotors or drive pulleys. I have not measured these myself, but assume this info to be true. Jeff | ||
| Li8ning |
Well, I committed to Kosman. I'm probably nuts. If anyone wants to know, it's now $425 for a rim job. ;-) Anyway, it'll look stock and I saved 2lbs... | ||
| Sportsman |
OUCH! That was probably a mistake. Eventually you'll need another set of rims for rain tires too, just do everything as economical as possible and you'll still run out of money. Street and Compettion sells 23 tooth. I got my 24 from Richard at Innovative. | ||
| Li8ning |
Rain??? Race in the Rain??? I live in SoCal, we don't have rain.... Anyway, thanks for the connection to Street and Competition, great source I hadn't hooked up with yet. Can't find anything on Innovative though, can you give me any more details on how to contact them? | ||
| Sportsman |
You lucky dog! Racing in the rain sucks, but the rest of us still do it. Spent the money, planned the weekend, might as well. Innovatives website is www.racingmotorcycles.com If he can't help you out I'd try Hal's, they'll know somebody if they don't have one. | ||
| S2no1 |
Blake or Everyone. Is anyone attending the CMRA Event at Hallett this weekend? I was thinking about taking my 2 young'uns up to watch the races. Arvel See I put it in the right topic.) | ||
| Blake |
Had planned on it at one time, but unfortunately plans have changed. You should still go. See the schedule at http://www.cmraracing.com/pdf/schedules/Hallett%205-24&25%20Schedule.pdf . GT races on Saturday start at 945am. The 5 hour endurance racing on Saturday starts at 2pm. Sprint racing on Sunday starts at 11pm, but the big bikes don't hit the track until after lunch at 1PM. Well, except for the Super motards. They always have some good racing. Each 8-lap race lasts about 15 minutes including warm up lap gridding and cool-down lap. Don't miss the spectator lap at 12:45pm! Keep an eye on #15 Expert Michael Sanchez. He is on fire, first year expert, leading 6 out of 7 of the sprint classes he is contesting. I expect to see him turning pro in the not to distant future. | ||
| Blake |
Sanches is now leading ALL 7 of the classes he is contesting. Pretty amazing for a first year expert. Ya gotta love RRW... http://venus.13x.com/roadracingworld/scripts/NewsInsert.asp?insert=6260 Hope Mike is okay. Go Shawn! Eighth in SB points! And my boy Haner took 10th in Superstock. | ||
| Blake |
Eric Wood puts Buell on the podium, 2nd place in CCS MW Superbike at VIR! http://venus.13x.com/roadracingworld/scripts/NewsInsert.asp?insert=6554 | ||
| Blake |
Erik Wood Qualifies 7th, crashes out in 4th running with lead pack in FUSA Sportbike at VIR, a very high speed track. Eric was okay, but his Kosko XB9R was destroyed, "essentially broken in half"!  Nobles and Estok finish one-two in Thunderbike but are penalized one lap due to starting grid infractions. http://venus.13x.com/roadracingworld/scripts/NewsInsert.asp?insert=6565 Mike Cicotto finishes 4th in AMA Superstock, now 8th in series. http://venus.13x.com/roadracingworld/scripts/NewsInsert.asp?insert=6564 Shawn Higbee finishes 9th in AMA Superbike, currently 7th in series points. | ||
| Dueller |
Hi guys...haven't posted in a while and I need your help/advice. The track bug has bitten me after a Bargy Street school on my S1W. I have my old faithful 97 M1 Beater that I want to use for track days and eventually do some WERA RR events at some point in the future. I know the bike won't be competitve but again neither will I. I just want to have some fun at regional events...winning is not important at this stage in my life. That being said, has anyone asembled a concise prep guide/build sheet? I'm using the KV but the info is all over the place. I want to concentrate on safety/setting up the suspension initially as the stock motor has enough power for my limited talent. I'm really a babe in the woods as far as where to start. Any input or direction would be appreciated. edited by dueller on August 26, 2003 | ||
| Blake |
Dueller, If no one else answers, I'll get back to you. Work is killing me. | ||
| Dueller |
Thanks Blake. I was hoping you'd weigh in on this query...I know you have experience RR'ing the early M2's. I just didn't want to send you a direct email. No hurry but your advice/expertise in this area would be greatly appreciated. jim | ||
| Li8ning |
Dueller, Here's everything I did to race my 98S1W Removed fender in rear, changed rear brake line to steel, eliminating brake switch. Rear-sets, Buell factory work best. I tried them all. Storz pegs and steering damper. Lots of spare toe-pegs and foot-pegs required, and also clutch and brake handles! Graves clip-ons with extra bars and bar-ends. Lowered front fork tubes 10mm in the triple clamps. (Yoiu might try 5 and see, then go the next 5) Ferodo front brake rotor and pads. (Not necessary but I really liked the Ferodo over stock.) Buell race shock mount to move rear shock forward ½”, also the Buell belly pan and flyscreen. Chain conversion. Breather catch-tank and routing. Buell Race kit (Ignition, air cleaner, header, exhaust) Penske rear shock. THIS WAS IMPORTANT! Race tech massage of front forks. Remove speedo, install filler plate and lap timer. Number plates. Changed 1st and 2nd gear ratios to be 2001 spec with new shift detent plate. That's the basics. Bring everything you would bring to a track day as well. Your tool kit will grow! Chain tools are required, and a jumper battery is a good idea. | ||
| Snowdave |
I will run through the details when I have some more time, but you might want to talk to Henry Duga at Buell. I found him very helpful even in the short conversation I had with him. You will likely need to talk to him to acquire the belly pan anyway. I will tell you more about my bike later. Dave | ||
| Psychobueller |
This is Mike Ciccotto's letter to the AMA for disallowing Buell in 2004 Formula Xtreme. I didn't know Buell was disallowed until I read this. Anyone know what's going on? http://www.cyclenews.com/ShowStory.asp?HeadlineID=5323 | ||
| Tripper |
They did the same thing to Aprilia, who was developing a 330cc 2-stroke. They had initialy said the 250GP class was to be rolled into Formula Extreme, then changed the rule with no discussion with the manufacturer. Is the AMA saying tat Air Cooled twins are not part of the formula now? I assume this also impacts Moto Guzzi who is preparing the MGS-01 for FX? The more I read about AMA racing the more I understand Blakes position. These folks are tyrants. | ||
| José_quiñones |
The plot thickens...... Mike's letter makes it seem like they singled out Buell and left the other air cooled twins eligible (Duc, BMW, MotoGuzzi, etc.) for FX But there is no official announcement about this in the AMA website yet. I think they made all the unrestricted air cooled twins ineligible, like they did with the two strokes. The AMA Pro Racing Board of Directors probably balked at the restricted fours and Duc twins vs. unrestricted air cooled twins proposal. I didn't talk to Mike at VIR last weekend, I'll try to get more info at Summit this weekend. | ||
| Dynarider |
The more I read about AMA racing the more I understand Blakes position. These folks are tyrants. Yep, if true it looks like Blake may be correct about the ama. What a joke that would be. Buell builds a bike which could be competetive, ama agrees & then slams the door on them? | ||
| Court |
>>>The plot thickens...... And, I'd suggest it will get MUCH thicker. | ||
| Mikej |
Reading Mike's letter it sounds like AMA Racing has an issue with the oil in the swingarm deal, not necessarily with Buells. | ||
| Bomber |
AMA has ALWAYS been a tyrant . . .so are most race sanctioning bodies . . . .talk to most any racer of most anything about the sanctioning body (AMA, FIM, USAC, CART, yada yada yada . . .. ) and, next to money, their biggest beef is very likely gonna be sanctioning body . . . (NASCAR is an exception, but they've done two things other bodies havn't . . .. they stopped telling their competitors that it's a race, and fessed up to the fact that it's entertainment, kinda like the 10 o'clock news . .. . thing the second, they've made their top runners richer than crossious (sp?)) the rise of all the local sanctioning (CCS, WERA, et al) groups is tied directly to the failure of AMA to pay attention to grassroots racing, which is, of course, the farm club system for national level stuff . . . .. that these groups have grown to the point where they are no longer local SHOULD be a wakeup call to the AMA, which is in danger of becoming motorcycling's USAC (anyone other than Court, Nevco and Road_thing remember when they WERE auto racing in the US?) | ||
| Tripper |
Your right, race organizers are always the bad guys, but these AMA folks are building a rich tradition of changing rules at the last minute without discussion. At least not with discussion from the competitors, which leads many to question who (which factories) are the major rulemaking influence. I thought the new Formula Extreme was a lame formula when they first said it was 600cc, but then they threw in oversized 250 GP bikes and unlimited Air Cooled twins and it was starting to get interesting. Now it looks like japan inc has raised a concern about who plays in this sandbox and we have arbitrary rule changes occuring. | ||
| Davegess |
Remember USAC? Heck I remember the AAA contest Board. I feel that the AMA should do what AAA did in the 50's, give the racing altogether and concetrate on helping out bikers in general. Spin Pro Racing off into a totally seperate body with a strong man (or woman) at the top. NASCAR and F1 cars are so sucessful because they have a boss who runs the show. They can make decision and ensure they are carried out. Sponsers and promoters like that. So do fans. Dave | ||
| José_quiñones |
Buells are still in FX, I'll explain the situation later. | ||
| Apex1 |
No. We want answers NOW!  Just kidding. But, please do tell. Thanks. | ||
| Li8ning |
Buell's are in. Here is a response from the AMA to my plea for Buell's in FX. Robert, There is some misinformation floating around out there…Buell twins are slotted into the Formula Xtreme class beginning next year. Regards, Merrill Vanderslice Director of Competition -----Original Message----- From: bsetbacken@RENCO.com [mailto:bsetbacken@RENCO.com] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:30 PM To: Andy Leisner; Chris Bradley; Connie Fleming; dwhite@amaproracing.com; Gary Beggrow; Jane Caston; John Farris; Jim Wardell; Ken Rogers; Matt Ringlien; Michele Rossi; Merrill Vanderslice; Patti Bourne; Rob King; Tamra Jones Subject: Formula Extreme for 2004 With regards to the attached plea, I also ask that you allow Buell's to race. Regards, Robert Setbacken Active AMA member | ||
| José_quiñones |
he answered mine too!
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