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Buellsrule
Posted on Wednesday, January 07, 2009 - 02:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Does anyone know of Buell drag racers that are competing with aftermarket belts (final drive)? I am massaging my tuber to go drag racing and won't to retain the belt but think it might be safer to convert to a chain. What say you? BR.
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Endoman33
Posted on Wednesday, January 07, 2009 - 07:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

we run in top street around here pretty much stock except for exhaust. my 04 xb12r had 25,380 miles on when i sold it for the 1125r stock belt never failed some on the 1125r but only 6,850 miles on it right now
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Buellsrule
Posted on Wednesday, January 07, 2009 - 07:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I assume you are not running wheelie bars and a strut? Thanks for the comment. Frank.
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Cronan128
Posted on Wednesday, January 07, 2009 - 07:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i ran stock belt on my xb 4 two seasons and the belt held up but out of fear i switched to chain plus more options this way as far as gearing... wheelie bars and strut ran 10.90s on the belt
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2009 - 12:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"want to retain the belt but think it might be safer to convert to a chain."
I'm not sure if "safer" is the right word. Wouldnt a belt be safer since when they break they dont tend to go through cases quite like a chain does?
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Endoman33
Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2009 - 11:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

you'r wright no wheelie bars or strut
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Slc4me
Posted on Sunday, January 11, 2009 - 11:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

530 chain on our ahdra hot street s1
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Buell2001b
Posted on Friday, January 16, 2009 - 11:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i lost a belt and its so safe that i did not even noticed it was the belt that had broken, i thought it was my transmition at first,lol
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Radon30
Posted on Friday, January 16, 2009 - 01:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Get rid of the training wheels, and you can use a belt. Come on what happen to the drivers making the difference instead of wheelie bars, 2 stage trip boxes, ignition cut, just a little clutch & throttle control.
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Cronan128
Posted on Friday, January 16, 2009 - 02:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

why put yourself at a disadvantage when everyone else you are running has bars? I can run with or without bars without a problem
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Fast1075
Posted on Monday, January 19, 2009 - 11:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A properly set up set of bars does far more than keeping the bike from looping...the whole "training wheel" attitude makes me laugh...if you don't like bars, don't run 'em, but your 60ft will suffer...but even worse the consistancy and predictability will suffer more...that may not be a problem if you are running heads up...but if you are running in an ET class where races are won or lost by a few thousands...consistancy and predictably are EVERYTHING!

Next on the scoff list....weather stations
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Radon30
Posted on Monday, January 19, 2009 - 01:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It is a given your 60 ft times would be high and consistency would drop, but nothing is predictable when it comes to drag racing, maybe measurable but not predictable. Also dont forget the drive train shock when you dump the clutch. If it is a daily driver, like mine(somewhat) i would never run bars, if it was strictly a drag bike sure run em. But if everyone had to run no bars the field will even. I run for fun not for competition.
Fast1075 before you pop off make sure you know what he is doing with the bike, if it is a daily driver or some what of one, i wouldn't run bars and change over to chain. To expensive just to run for fun.
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Buellsrule
Posted on Monday, January 19, 2009 - 01:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi guys, thanks to all for your input. I believe at my power level(120 RWHP) that a new upgraded belt will hold the bike. Especially with a strut holding the rear wheel in position and the belt tension fixed. My bike will see both street and strip action. I'm not running a series and will probably not race more than 5 or 6 times during the year. I want to try and run the bike with both wheelie bars and without. I've done a lot of racing without the bars and wondered if a belt would hold the bike with the bars. I believe it will. Thanks to all for your suggestions. Have a safe and enjoyable '09. Frank.
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Buellsrule
Posted on Monday, January 19, 2009 - 01:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

BTW Brad, are you Bruce's brother?
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Fast1075
Posted on Monday, January 19, 2009 - 03:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sorry, I was thinking DRAG bike, not street bike...a STREETABLE street tire most likely wont have enough traction and certainly not the proper carcass dynamics to work well with a bar...so a bar would be of little use with a street tire...the story is different if you are talking about a "DOT drag tire" like a Mickey Thompson or a Shinko 003...those WILL work with a bar.

And sorry, consistancy is what it is all about...if you have ever gone past first round...either you are more consistant than your opponent...or he/she was more inconsistant than you..and that includes predicting what the bike will run as conditions change. And that applies no matter what you ride except in heads up classes where the winner is the first one to the end without redlighting or crossing the centerline, or having some other infraction to get disqualified...
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Cronan128
Posted on Monday, January 19, 2009 - 06:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yeah i'm Bruce's brother, and the metzeler dragtec and racetec will work just fine with bars as well as those tires
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1hatchet
Posted on Monday, January 19, 2009 - 08:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Quote "Buellsrule Does anyone know of Buell drag racers that are competing with aftermarket belts (final drive)? I am massaging my tuber to go drag racing and won't to retain the belt but think it might be safer to convert to a chain. What say you? BR."

I use a belt, very restrictive final gear ratio selection. Chain will give a rider much more options as far as gearing.
(will be converting to chain)

As far as a chain being safer?
My opinion is no, What chains are is stronger and reliable that with gearing options is why most bike drag racers use chains.

Wheelie Bars; Safety, coincidence launch (60"), reasonable priced, easily removed thus lower E.T.'s (A Bracket Racer Must)

More Money; Stretched swing-arm.
Similar results as wheelie bar.
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Fast1075
Posted on Tuesday, January 20, 2009 - 02:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the heads up Cronan...I have no experience with the Metzeler tires...mainly the Mickey in Pro Street.

I have seen chains tear the whole back half off a bike,and tear chunks out of the rider to boot, with an "approved" chain guard...I have never seen a belt do much damage...but I agree that the ability to regear is very appealing...and with close attention and a good predictive replacement strategy, the chain is a good idea..I always run the heaviest chain that will fit, trading 60ft for durability and safety.
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Buelltech6
Posted on Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 09:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i switched to chain for gearing reasons and length changes. belts nice for street reliability.
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