| Author | Message | ||
     Phoun49 |
Alright, back here with another dumb mistake that I could use some advice on. I noticed my Uly was low on oil before I had to do a 60 mile ride so I grabbed what I thought was the Uly oil but turned out to be the oil for the Subaru instead (0w-30). I noticed my clutch start to slip at about the end of my 60 mile ride. I realized my mistake after I checked the oil bottle. I did an oil change to 10w-40 (it's cold here) and afterwards heard a pretty loud clunk. I rode a few miles with the clutch still slipping. After a while, the clutch wouldn't engage at all. I'm pretty sure my clutch plates are shot. They have about 35K on them anyways. Thoughts? | ||
| Ratbuell |
Yep. MIGHT be able to clean them thoroughly and soak them in cleaner, and then new oil, and get some life back...but they're definitely contaminated. | ||
| Hughlysses |
You do realize that the clutch/transmission oil and engine oil are completely separate, right? Unless that 0W-30 blew past the crankshaft seal and filled the primary, I don't see how it could have affected it. I'd check the oil level in the primary. Set up bike so it's level side-to-side, remove the clutch cover, oil should be just touching the gear teeth on the clutch basket. If the oil level is high, maybe the 0W-30 did get in there. I'd drain it and put in a fresh quart of the proper stuff. Formula + is my preference. If the primary oil level is OK, then I'd say your problem is purely coincidental. I'd do a major clutch adjustment by the book. If that doesn't help, you probably need clutch plates. | ||
| Mnrider |
Primary oil(clutch) and engine oil are separate so engine oil should not effect the clutch. | ||
| Uly_man |
"dumb mistake that I could use some advice on". Gort. Klatu baratta nicto . Or in other words DO NOT screw with things that you do not understand. (Message edited by uly_man on November 20, 2014) | ||
| Electraglider_1997 |
Possibly Phoun49 drained the primary and then overfilled the engine by pouring 10W40 into the swingarm which already contained 0W30. This would mean the transmission was drained and then left dry. That would not be good. | ||
| Electraglider_1997 |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIaxSxEqKtA | ||
| Phoun49 |
I'll check the primary tonight, but it should be okay volume wise. I changed it out right before summer started. I drained the 0W-30 and replaced it with 2.5 quarts of 10w-40. I may have overfilled with the 0w-30 before the ride causing contamination. I'll flush the primary and do a clutch adjustment and see if that helps. Why's everyone quoting Keanu Reeves? Kidding, I watched and loved the classic as a kid. (Message edited by phoun49 on November 20, 2014) (Message edited by phoun49 on November 20, 2014) | ||
| Buewulf |
"Or in other words DO NOT screw with things that you do not understand." Gee, that's very helpful. Screwing with things I don't understand is how I have learned just about everything I know. So long as one can accept "crash and burn" as a potential outcome, then I say go for it. As others have mentioned, your clutch issues sound like a coincidence since the tranny and engine oil are in separate cases on these bikes. Adjust clutch or replace if that doesn't work. | ||
| Uly_man |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVS1xWMU8BM | ||
| Phoun49 |
http://youtu.be/Bhxeb_GfsqI?t=50s | ||
| Uly_man |
"Why's everyone quoting Keanu Reeves?". No one is. | ||
| Phoun49 |
I was jokingly making a reference about the terrible remake. There's another sentence after that. | ||
| Nobuell |
It sounds to me like the clutch adjustment is wrong or the bearing in the adjuster came apart. If the adjustment was to tight, it could have been slipping for quite awhile and continuously damaged the plates. What does the primary oil look like? You should be able to open the cover and smell a burnt clutch and the oil should be black from the friction plate material. | ||
| Phoun49 |
I haven't had a chance to open the cover yet. I'm either going to do it later tonight or the weekend. At least it's winter here and riding season is over. | ||
| Ourdee |
At least it's winter here and riding season is over. I rode to work this morning, home this evening. 61115. Get it fixed and ride. | ||
| Fotoguzzi |
Ourdee, your tougher than me.. it was like 16f this morning here... my Uly has been parked for 3 weeks.. winter is early and harsh.. | ||
| Ratbuell |
My apologies...I assumed (we know what happens when you do that..) the OP was speaking of topping off the primary fluid. Interested in how this turns out. | ||
| Etennuly |
You may want to inspect the primary cover edges inside the derby cover for cracks or a broken off lip. If it were not for screwing with things I do not understand I would not have six grand children. Ooooooh did I say that out loud??  | ||
| Blake |
The engine oil is no big deal, especially this time of year in Indiana. It's unrelated to your clutch anyway as already stated by others here. Your clutch system most likely needs adjusted, either at the hand lever or at the clutch itself or both. Get a service manual. | ||
| Blake |
Over-filling engine oil doesn't cause "contamination", just forces oil out the crankcase breather, which in stock form exhausts into the engine's airbox near the intake. |
