| Author | Message | ||
     Rwven |
I've got mine up for sale on Craigslist. The only hit I've gotten on it so far was some joker wanting me to donate it to his "Skyline (as in Skyline Drive) Automotive Museum. http://skylineautomotivemuseum.org/ | ||
| Rwven |
While I'm at it i may as well put the Craigslist link up here also.... http://baltimore.craigslist.org/mcy/4700556407.htm l | ||
| Cyclonedon |
My 2006 XB12X is also a collectors bike. It's still collecting trouble free miles loaded with lots of smiles! I just wished I lived somewhere that I could ride it year around! | ||
| Brucespoint |
For a Design junky, it is a Collectors Bike; As a Rider, it's a Classic! Cutting edge Design type; With a refinement of an American Icon for Power; Best of type in both. H-D blew it is all. It will hold up for the long run, despite H-D Screwing every Owner out of Half the resale value off the Start. b. | ||
| Brucespoint |
I wish I could afford to Stockpile them, in Classic Fun Rides, Right up there with Norton in Competence & Confidence inspiring handling, a Harley-Davidson that can Dance;, they Will be refurbished & tweaked forever by Riders. (Message edited by brucespoint on October 09, 2014) | ||
| Electraglider_1997 |
Brucespoint, Harley may have blown it, but the ULY was made because of Harley purchasing Buell and our ULY bikes would probably never have existed if not for Harley because at the time they were the only ones that came forward with the moola. People bitching about Harley act as if Buell was financially capable of having that East Troy facility without help which he most certainly got from Harley. EBR is only making bikes again because of HERO. It's all about the money, without it the bikes are all just a dream. Quit revising history. | ||
| Reepicheep |
It would be interesting to see a cash flow analysis for what Buell actually cost. Harley did pay for Buell infrastructure. They also forced Buell to buy Harley engines at stupidly inflated rates relative to better engines available elsewhere (or built in house). Facts would be hard to come by. | ||
| Electraglider_1997 |
Reepicheep, Where'd you hear that Buell had to pay inflated rates for those Sportster engines. Wouldn't seem rational that Harley would want Buell to have to charge too much for their bikes by charging inflated prices for the engines. Seems like they were able purchase Rotax engines but kept on putting the Harley based engines in the XB bikes. I'm more of the opinion that Buell engineered bikes that just didn't appeal to enough of the riding public. The lobster clawed 1125 bikes cooked their goose. | ||
| Arcticktm |
Didn't appeal to enough of the riding public largely because of an old, heavy engine not intended for high performance. I love the low end, but not much else from my '06 motor. What I really like is the chassis, suspension, handling. It's also makes all the modern ADV bikes look like fat pigs, making it hard for me to find one that is a worthy replacement for the inevitable day the Buell goes down. I won't pour money into it beyond what it is worth. I'd sell it, but this thread and others shows why it's not worth it right now. My 2000 BMW R1200C is worth more, and it is really not very useful as a motorcycle. I think it's time to sell the BMW and use it towards the next ride. Liking the KTM 1190 but not the price. 2 guys I ride with now have Yamaha Super Tenere's, but they also seem huge to me in the front end (like a GS1200). | ||
| Skifastbadly |
I rode the Super Tenere. I wanted to like it. I did not. It was as soulless as my mother in law and while this might seem like a nit, i HATED the instrument panel. Those turn signal indicators were like off of a 69 Checker Marathon. I tried the Triumph Tiger Explorer, I loved the power but cripes, it's pricey. And it seems as if it's lost sales momentum behind the new BMW, KTM, etc. So I think that'll be another orphan. Guess I'll stick with the Uly for now. (Message edited by skifastbadly on October 22, 2014) | ||
| Turf_moor |
All the others cost so much, and none of them look as good as the Uly, which I feel was the best-looking bike of the 2000s. Mine still makes me look at it admiringly. | ||
| Electraglider_1997 |
I also have been enamored of the ULY's looks. Love at first site. | ||
| Buewulf |
"Where'd you hear that Buell had to pay inflated rates for those Sportster engines." I recall reading that somewhere as well - in one of the print mags I believe. Development costs for it were way over budget, and the intercompany unit price for the engines was pretty silly. Now, whether that makes sense or not largely depends on what you want each business unit's bottom line to look like. "I'd sell it, but this thread and others shows why it's not worth it right now. " That is pretty much where I am at. The Uly doesn't fetch much more than ratbike money, and it is worth keeping it at that rate. So no matter what else I end up with in the garage, the Uly will likely stick around just because it isn't worth selling. If it starts collecting dust, I might let it go cheap for its own sake. But if I am still riding it every now and then, it stays. | ||
| Cyclonedon |
Didn't the Buell Blast engine cost somewhere around $3000.00? I read that somewhere and thought that was overpriced! | ||
| Maximum |
Don and Craig...good to see that you guys are holding down the fort here. I just got back last month from another year overseas...hoping to actually get some good riding summers here in the US. I still have my 2006 X and a 2009 XT...and they might just as well be collectors bikes...cause I'm not selling them! Oh...I still have an 1125r too...but I'm willing to sell that one...just love the Uly(s) so much more! | ||
| Electraglider_1997 |
Welcome back Steve. How darn many hours in helicopters do you have now? | ||
| Maximum |
Slow year...still short of 5000.  | ||
| Tootal |
Hey Steve, welcome back! Glad your back safely. Wish I could join you for a few of those twisty Colorado roads! Just stuck here in the land of 11 curves in 318 miles! | ||
| Maximum |
Thanks Greg...glad to see you still active. I will start another thread as to not hijack this thread. I'll call it "Maximum Uly Love"...if you want to look for it later this morning. | ||
| Etennuly |
Hi Steve, Glad to see you are doing well! I sent you a PM. | ||
| Toy_builder |
Hi I'm new to the forum I bought a Uly from a friend who spent the last 2 years striping stuff off of it trying to make it into a sportbike (don't ask).Anyway I've started putting it back together or at least collecting all the bits and pieces that didn't come with it. I do think they are going to be collectible one day.But really the oldest ones are only 9 years old hardly a classic or antique bike .But they are pretty rare by big Mgf standards and eventually they'll gain back some value ,but it takes a long time .Store your low mileage Uly and you Grandkids can make bank when it goes to auction .So on that note mine already has to many miles so I'm going for slightly modified adventure bike with cool orange paint.Maybe when I finish this one I can find a low mileage 08'anniversary model like mine to hide at the back of my shop. | ||
| Hootowl |
"Now, whether that makes sense or not largely depends on what you want each business unit's bottom line to look like." Precisely. HD was hiding it's losses from one business in another. Not sure that's illegal, since it doesn't materially affect their reportable income, but it is pretty shady. And it made it look like Buell was a money pit. | ||
| Buewulf |
"Not sure that's illegal" Definitely not illegal. It was their business unit, so they had free reign to do as they pleased so long as investors were not grossly misled. I do it all the time where I work, though more to take cost away from under-performing regions and park it in over-performing ones that can easily absorb the cost to help maintain and boost employee moral at the under-performing ones. I'm sure H-D treats most of its business units like profit centers with managers striving to hit certain performance metrics. The H-D product group responsible for designing and producing the Buell engines simply behaved like the engine supplier monopoly it was. Good for them, bad for Buell. Here is a link to a 2010 Cycleworld article that touches on a lot of this. I'm sure everyone has read it before, but I myself found it interesting to re-read. http://aerocharger.com/wp-content/uploads/82567_ep rint.BAK_.pdf | ||
| Arry |
Thanks for the link to that Cycle World article. A nice summation of that history. Too bad it all turned out that way. Sounds like Buell was a great source of ideas and engineering for HD, plus bringing new riders and sport riders in as HD customers. HD shot themselves in the foot and screwed all us Buell enthusiasts. Wish it had turned out differently. |
