| Author | Message | ||
     Dgrs2 |
Bringing home the new, older 06 uly yesterday, cruising along at 70 mpg when click. I thought it jumped out of gear. I'm clicking around and now I can't find fourth! WTF. Pull over to assess. No clue! I have another 200 miles to go before home. I sit and open up the clutch. Check it's setting put back together, still no 4-5 gear. Rode 200 miles with 1,2,3 gears doing a max of 55-60 with no issues. Anyone have any idea what the hell happened? What am I missing. Is this a simple fix? | ||
| Rayycc1 |
bringing it home? Damn man...thats rough. I'm sure one of these guys have a clue ...you really don't hear much about transmission problems on these bikes..what ever it is...stick it out ....I;ve had a few bikes but never one that made me grin so much | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
If it was a tuber, I would wager that the shift detent thing had come loose off of the end of the shifter drum. I'm not sure how the XB trannies are different. If it is the same as the tuber's tranny, it's a cheap fix. | ||
| Froggy |
Problem is any transmission issue on a XB is expensive, simply due to the labor involved. Could be a $5 part, but to get the transmission out you need to split the engine cases. | ||
| Dgrs2 |
Looks like it's going in for a tear down. Not a happy camper. The guy I bought it from won't contact me back. | ||
| Reepicheep |
You can get to some parts of it without splitting cases, like the shifter pawl and detent, and drum pins. Could be that. Could be worse. Bummer. | ||
| Rayycc1 |
Seller won't contact..... Sounds like he knew it was having problems...SOB. I can't stand a thief...which he obviously is. I know it's frustrating...but see it thru...let us know what the problem is...we'll be here for moral support anyways :-) | ||
| Dgrs2 |
As long as I get it on the road again very soon. I have waited to get another Uly for two years and the 550 mile drive home made me remember why I love these bikes! | ||
| Dgrs2 |
I'll be reading the repair manual very closely this evening. If it's not a terrible tear down I'll handle it my self. | ||
| Reepicheep |
Somebody recently posted a "split the cases" thread with pictures. I think it was here. It wasn't easy, but it didn't look as bad as I thought. I've done it on dirtbikes. A lot of work but you just put aside time and do it carefully and methodically and next thing you know you are done. This would just be like that but with heavier parts. But again, it might be the shifter pawl setup. Especially if it was lowsided on that side. | ||
| Firemanjim |
Pull engine and complete teardown to get to trans, about 8 hours to get into it. Look at shift mechanism first | ||
| Griffmeister |
Cross your fingers and check the shift pawl and related hardware. I think most of it is hidden behind the clutch so there are some parts to remove but not that bad. If it's not that then you are in for a total tear down, yeah, 8 hours if you're an experienced Buell mechanic. If your not, then plan on spending a lot of time making special tools and trying to organize the tear down and rebuild so you don't screw up. Next realize that the local dealer won't stock much more than the filter, drain plug o ring and inspection cover gasket which means everything is a week away if not on backorder. Lastly, don't order parts late at night when you buy a piston ring "set" and your mind thinks "set" means engine complete and not cylinder complete. Needless to say, I just got my engine back in the frame this past weekend and running, but still have more to put on before it's road ready. | ||
| Rayycc1 |
This really bites. I'm sorry you're going thru this | ||
| Dgrs2 |
Something tells me it's the pawl. No horrible noises, and ran for 200 miles without a issue. | ||
| Ourdee |
Al at American Sport Bike may be able to get your parts and give good advice. | ||
| Dgrs2 |
Here is the latest update. Shift forks are trashed. They are made from brass not steel! One failed and trashed the gears. So there you have it. Bike will be back on the road next week. Should anything else be checked while torn down? It's a 2006 Uly. | ||
| Hughlysses |
I'd imagine there's a good reason for them to be made out of brass, but that sucks that they failed like that. You might as well replace all the seals as well as piston rings and do a valve job while you've got it apart. Then it should be good for another ~100k miles. | ||
| Reepicheep |
They are probably actually bronze, but yeah. They normally don't go, not that that helps you. Definitely check the crank while you have it apart, check it *really* carefully. They can fail, and the big deal when they do is splitting the cases, which you have already done. | ||
| Reepicheep |
Oh, and you rock for not whining, somebody with no integrity really screwed you over. Karma always comes back around for sure (good for you, bad for them). | ||
| Jesse_lackman |
What sort of clues would there be that the shifts forks are failing? | ||
| Mark_weiss |
Check the bushings for the gears. Some of them may be brass. Certain types of gear oil, off of the top of my head I don't recall which, are not compatible with "yellow" metals. Brass and bronze are two such alloys. | ||
| Motorfish |
I would definitely check the crank and have it trued if needed. At 17k my oil pump drive gear was eaten up, because the crank was not true to spec. I wound up getting a welded `08 crank from Dark Horse. | ||
| Griffmeister |
I just got my bike on the road this past week after a similar problem. You'd better inspect the entire transmission before reassembly. The forks do not trash themselves nor is it likely that they are the only component affected. I had to replace my 2/3 fork as well as the 2/3 sliding dog and third gear. Check the dogs that the forks ride in, I find it hard to believe that there's no wear on the mating surfaces. Also, check the edges and contact areas of the dogs as well as the sockets in the gears. If there is any wear or rounding of the edges then that is the cause of the fork wear as the gears are constantly trying to push themselves apart. Spend the time and money to get it right now. The shear amount of labor involved in a complete tear down and rebuild for just a few stinking parts justifies what you may have to do to get it right. I'm pretty sure you don't want to have to take everything apart again in just a few thousand miles. | ||
| Tootal |
At this point I would definitely put the cylinders in torque plates and measure them for taper and out of round. If they are bad I would bite the bullet and get .005" over pistons, or whatever you need, and have them bored and honed properly. Getting this correct will insure a very long life for the engine. I would also weigh the new and old pistons. Keeping them the same weight will keep the engine balanced. | ||
| Dgrs2 |
The shop is going over everything. Replacing many parts. Should be done Thursday! I'll be back on the road. The person I purchased from did send a check. Received it on Saturday. There are decent people in the world! | ||
| Reepicheep |
Very cool of the seller and the buyer. It's nice when everyone acts like a grown up. That'll be a nice bike when you are done with it. | ||
| Jesse_lackman |
Did the seller know something was up with the transmission? If he didn't it's really impressive he gave you an extended warranty! | ||
| Dgrs2 |
The seller had no clue. Neither did I. It just happened. | ||
| Jesse_lackman |
Wow! | ||
| Dualsportdad |
very cool on the sellers part and on yours for not freaking out. i think i would have freaked out if i had just bought a bike and that happened. | ||
| Dgrs2 |
Good news! The bike is back together and I pick it up tomorrow. I'll have a list of what was done to it. I have the price but you don't want to know that! So now I'll have a bike with 9500 miles and a brand new motor. I have to do the break in again according to the shop. I had them replace any and all wear items while the cases were apart. Pumped to get back on the Uly and ride. | ||
| Reepicheep |
You have a nice bike, just enjoy it! | ||
| Dgrs2 |
She's back and better then ever! How the hell do I post a pic? (Message edited by dgrs2 on October 12, 2014) | ||
| Hughlysses |
^ Badweb is not like most forums when it comes to posting photos; it's not difficult, just different. Read directions here: http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/disc us.cgi?pg=formatting#images |
