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Advoutlander
Posted on Saturday, February 23, 2013 - 02:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is there any way to turn down the heat on the heated grips? They get too hot to hold to the point where I just leave them off.
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Kenm123t
Posted on Saturday, February 23, 2013 - 07:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Gloves ? the switch has two settings
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Ratbuell
Posted on Saturday, February 23, 2013 - 08:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They're designed to be used with heavy gloves...if I flip them on with my summer gloves on, I cook. With my winter Alpinstars...they're just right.
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Advoutlander
Posted on Saturday, February 23, 2013 - 10:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have winter alpine star gloves with army liners and I still received a blister. Setting 1 is scorching and setting 2 is thermonuclear.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Saturday, February 23, 2013 - 11:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I Know what you mean. I have never used the "Kill" setting on my grips, just the first one. It's still too hot usually.
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Bluebiker
Posted on Sunday, February 24, 2013 - 01:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I use the hi position till they get warm, then cut down to the low position. When they get too hot I turn them off, when my hands get cold I turn them on again. It can be a pain to turn them on and off constantly but it beats cold hands.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Sunday, February 24, 2013 - 09:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Do you have a voltmeter / gauge on your bike? I wonder if you're experiencing an over-volt condition...
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Zac4mac
Posted on Sunday, February 24, 2013 - 11:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bluebiker has it.
I do the same.
Sometimes I get a 40-50 degree difference in a day, I use the heated grips almost every day at some point.

Just turn them off when it starts to get too hot.
Turn them back on in 5-10 minutes.

I have ridden when it's so cold even "high" isn't hot enough...
Since I got a set of Hippo Hands, my hands are MUCH happier in the Winter.





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Uly_man
Posted on Sunday, February 24, 2013 - 04:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok. This is what I have found.

Under about 50 mph (10 bike) the hand guards seem to "curl" air back onto the hands and it feels very cold even with grips at full power. At 60 plus they are MUCH better. I tested this with vented summer gloves in winter so you can feel any cold air right away. The hand guards seem, to me, more "style" over function for road work. I removed them on my 06 bike and was glad I did as it stopped the 80 mph "shimmy" I used to get on the bike as well as the cold hands thing.

Keeping the air off the hands is the trick and why something like Hippo hands work so well. $ for $ NOTHING beats them. Warm, dry, use summer gloves, no heated grips needed but just a bit ugly if you care about that sort of thing.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Sunday, February 24, 2013 - 08:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I built a microcontroller based thermostat to solve exactly that problem.

It works brilliantly (now, after about rev 6). But I'm working on rev 7, so it's "in between".

You could scare up a heat troller or something else that would at least let you control it propritionally (though its not a feedback thermostat).

I don't know if I have any other Rev 6 units left in a pile somewhere... I might have a development unit somewhere that would take a little cobelling to make work...

Are these polly grip heaters?
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Thumpthump
Posted on Monday, February 25, 2013 - 11:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I agree that they are quite warm. Look at the bright side. Just strap a burrito to one of the grips an you'll have some hot food when you get where you are going.
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Britchri10
Posted on Monday, February 25, 2013 - 12:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Put a few rashers of bacon around your hands!
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Reepicheep
Posted on Monday, February 25, 2013 - 01:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The range of demands on heated grips are fairly staggering... On a 40 degree day stopped at a light you barely need any power, then at 75 MPH into a head wind you need 15 watts. And there is a tone of latency in the system, so it's like trying to navigate in a car by mail.

To solve it you basically need to solve a calculus problem every second (literally).
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Bluzm2
Posted on Tuesday, February 26, 2013 - 08:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bill's controller is GREAT!
I need to pull it and get the latest rev flashed into it and still need to move the thermistor..
Best mod I've ever done to a bike was put heated grips on..
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Prior
Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 - 07:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I need to send mine back for a reflash as well... Rev 2 or whatever I was on baked my hands sometimes- maybe it was the NC temp swings that made things go nuts.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 - 08:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll be happy to reflash to be sure, but I *think* the big difference was the location of the thermistor. It just needs to move off the board so it can properly go up against the bars (put it on top of a wad of fiberglass).

You can leave it in the bars, but I did have that one short out on me eventually. Once you move the thermistor offboard, you can just tuck it under the flyscreen, which is an easier install anyway.

I need to get back to work in the new version (with optional LCD : ) ).
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Reepicheep
Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 - 12:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh, and I think that thermistor is like a $1 part, so probably just as easy for me to send another one if you mangle the first one getting it out. It can be tricky, as I had to pack a lot of stuff on a little board to try and get it inside the bars. That is another plus of the next version, I can do a less packed board layout.
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