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Conchop
| Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2012 - 11:52 am: |
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Has anyone installed a Baker 24 tooth engine pulley? What was the result? Is there a lot of slop in the belt tension??? Would you do it again? |
Buelldualsport
| Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2012 - 12:41 pm: |
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We had a 26th on the Tuber we had back in the day. Worth the hassle back then. Not what you were asking, we know. Regards |
Jcbikes
| Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2012 - 04:12 pm: |
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How many teeth are stock? |
Teeps
| Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2012 - 05:24 pm: |
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30 according to the Buell parts catalog for 2006 Ulysses. The result will be lower final drive ratio. Good for acceleration and little else. With a 6 tooth drop, I doubt there would be any tension on the belt. Whether that is good or bad, I don't know. |
Rdkingryder
| Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2012 - 05:28 pm: |
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Why not just go with the XB9 primary? In fact, there's one in FM. http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/21/686308.html?1341717587 (Message edited by rdkingryder on July 08, 2012) |
Buelldualsport
| Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2012 - 07:35 pm: |
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I thought 27th was the US model? |
Conchop
| Posted on Wednesday, July 11, 2012 - 11:15 am: |
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XB9 seems to be a popular swap. Seems to me the Baker would easier to swap back and forth. Around here in Appalachia, you need the lower gearing for these lil 1 lane back roads. If you're a flat lander - or if you decide to go cross country, stock gearing is best. |
Teeps
| Posted on Wednesday, July 11, 2012 - 11:36 am: |
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I see what you're saying Conchop. My concern, with dropping 6 teeth on the front pulley, would be belt wrap and tension. Or, specifically the lack there of... Does "Baker" offer a shorter belt to go with the 24 pulley? Have you called Baker? If I read their web info correctly they offer 26 and 28 tooth. http://bakerdrivetrain.com/sportster-buell-parts-and-accessories A 28 would probably be plenty and would probably not need a shorter belt. I think you need to call Baker... (Message edited by teeps on July 11, 2012) |
Rdkingryder
| Posted on Wednesday, July 11, 2012 - 09:02 pm: |
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CC, the XB9 swap is pretty easy, maybe 2 hours and going cross country isn't an issue. I tach 3800 rpms at 70mph, about 300 higher than stock, but the bottom end grunt is alot better. Still get around 45mpg. |
Conchop
| Posted on Thursday, July 12, 2012 - 09:33 am: |
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As far as belt slack is concerned, perhaps the spring loaded Trojan tensioner could bring it up. Perhaps the XB9 swap is the best overall solution as it has been a proven option. |
Teeps
| Posted on Thursday, July 12, 2012 - 11:36 am: |
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Conchop Posted on Thursday, July 12, 2012 As far as belt slack is concerned, perhaps the spring loaded Trojan tensioner could bring it up. Perhaps the XB9 swap is the best overall solution as it has been a proven option. I doubt the spring tensioner has the range of movement needed. I agree with XB9 option being well tested... |
Natexlh1000
| Posted on Thursday, July 12, 2012 - 12:12 pm: |
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One other thing points towards the XB9 primary: The speedometer sensor is connected to the output shaft of the tranny. If you swap the primary gearing, your speedo will still be correct. |
Reepicheep
| Posted on Thursday, July 12, 2012 - 12:54 pm: |
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Another thing leaning towards the XB9 primary... those Baker parts don't actually fit a Uly. (As far as I can tell). You had my hopes up. I'd love something I could swap easily. Gear the uly down a bit for my normal commuting, but gear it back up for longer road trips (where I might be sustaining 80 mph for hours at a time). If I didn't have an 07 (with the weaker crank) I would probably have already done the XB9 primary conversion. |
Andymnelson
| Posted on Thursday, July 12, 2012 - 01:56 pm: |
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quote:If you swap the primary gearing, your speedo will still be correct.
I've yet to ride a Buell that the speedo was anywhere near correct... |
Froggy
| Posted on Thursday, July 12, 2012 - 02:10 pm: |
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Ride mine. Dash says 61, GPS says 60, close enough for government work |
Natexlh1000
| Posted on Thursday, July 12, 2012 - 05:33 pm: |
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That's a whole mile off! What if you were on a tight schedule? |
Froggy
| Posted on Thursday, July 12, 2012 - 05:45 pm: |
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It isn't always 1mph. On my last timed rally I turned the key off while coasting down large hills to compensate, but at that point it is all within the variance of the tires, gps accuracy, etc. |
Jcbikes
| Posted on Thursday, July 12, 2012 - 06:05 pm: |
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Not a good idea turning the motor off while coasting for long distances because of the dry sump motor. Oil does not get circulated through out parts of the drive train that need it. This is what I have been told. Here is a post on the xb board on an area that does not get lubed when coasting with the engine off. http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/32777/686824.html?1342130952 (Message edited by jcbikes on July 12, 2012) |
Froggy
| Posted on Thursday, July 12, 2012 - 06:29 pm: |
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You obviously haven't seen my riding. Also, don't roll the bike around for the same reason, that means start it in your garage before moving it. Also, don't start your motor, it causes wear due to not being oiled and up to temperature. |
Jcbikes
| Posted on Thursday, July 12, 2012 - 06:35 pm: |
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Just saying "coasting for long distances." I am no expert but just passing along what I have been told about dry sump motors in general. I am also not saying it was the cause of the xb9 in the link. |
Afsoc_commando
| Posted on Thursday, July 12, 2012 - 07:14 pm: |
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dry sump has no effect on the tranny... your oil pump handles the engine and your clutch basket and primary are in an oil bath. Coasting will not hurt the engine if your in neutral. |
Conchop
| Posted on Saturday, July 14, 2012 - 10:05 pm: |
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Damn thing would have been perfect with a six speed tranny! |
Boogeyman
| Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2012 - 08:59 am: |
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I coasted downhill with the engine off for about a mile or so in AZ this spring. Made it all the way back to KC with nary an issue! |