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Ericcogdell
Posted on Friday, March 16, 2012 - 08:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Production plans and pricing was released to on the new Motus. Puts it way out of my league.

http://www.dealernews.com/dealernews/LATEST+NEWS/M otus-Motorcycles-reveals-pricing-specs-initial-de/ ArticleStandard/Article/detail/764885?contextCateg oryId=48447
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T9r
Posted on Friday, March 16, 2012 - 09:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If they are still around in 5 years... I might try to aspire to one, but I'll wait to see where they pan out with service, price, quality and reliability.

2013 MST for $31,000 starting price.... wow.
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Ericcogdell
Posted on Saturday, March 17, 2012 - 08:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have an 06 XB12X and thought that the Motus could be a replacement. The Motus costing $20,000 more than my Buell is a huge deal breaker. Who can really afford to pay over $30,000 for a motorcycle. I guess Motus is targeting the top 1% of the population. Maybe someday when I come into a large chunk of money and hit a mid-life crisis I will get one. Instead of buying a Corvette I will buy a Motus. I hope everything works out and about $10,000 will be shaved off in the near future.
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Saturday, March 17, 2012 - 11:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Besides the fact that it will take a few years and many early adopting disgruntled guinea pigs to sort that new bike out.
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Saturday, March 17, 2012 - 11:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Those options should all be standard for those prices.
I'd sure like to demo a Motus. Nice looking bike.
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Saturday, March 17, 2012 - 11:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And the insurance cost on that bike, because of it's price, will be pretty darned high. Seems that they turned a fairly economical way of transportation into a not so economical means of transportation. With all the costs involved in owning one Motus, a cross country trip on one would be very pricey in comparison to taking that same trip on a Buell ULY. Sure, you'd garner a lot of attention every time you stopped, but none of those admirers would help monetarily-wise. Kudos to those with the coin and guts to own one, but I'll be riding my ULY for some time to come. With tax, license, insurance, you'll have about $50K invested over a 4 year period of ownership of the $37K model.
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Dynasport
Posted on Saturday, March 17, 2012 - 01:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Motus guys are true enthusiasts. They have ridden their test mules all over the country working out bugs along the way.

No doubt the bike is expensive, but it contains top shelf components. There are a lot of details on the bike that are neat. The handlebars are very adjustable. It comes with basically an aftermarket seat, exhaust, and suspension which are common upgrades this bike won't need.

Besides, if you really want to save money on a cross country trip, you can certainly do it cheaper on a KLR650 than even on a Uly, but I'd rather take the Uly. While some people buy motorcycles strictly on cost, most of us would have bought a KLR or a V-Strom if that was our main concern.
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Johnboy777
Posted on Saturday, March 17, 2012 - 02:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's $10,000 less than the new Buell.

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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Saturday, March 17, 2012 - 02:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No doubt about it, but that is still a very expensive motorcycle. The Buell guys are true enthusiasts also. Most true enthusiast riders haven't got 30+ to sink into a bike.
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Orangeulius
Posted on Sunday, March 18, 2012 - 07:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was pretty excited about the Motus and figured it would cost 18k to 23k......not! It will be interesting to see how used values hold up over time. Maybe the pre owned market will become the entry point for those of us that are more financially challenged.
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Johnboy777
Posted on Sunday, March 18, 2012 - 10:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

""those of us that are more financially challenged.""

You don't have to be 'financially challenged' not to spend $30,000 on a toy; something
you don't need, depreciates like crazy, has a minuscule re-sale market, is maintenance
intensive (like all motorcycles are), eats tires every 10,000 miles, and has virtually NO dealer network.

Financially irresponsible, maybe.


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7873jake
Posted on Sunday, March 18, 2012 - 08:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

there are a LOT of great bikes out there that I could dump $10,000 in to after purchase price and approximate the parts package of a motus and still keep the other $5,000 to $10,000 in the bank before ever making an insurance payment or other 'consumable' item (tires, etc).

I've watched motus with enthusiasm because I liked their product and admired their drive to translate a dream into reality, much like a small group in East Troy did (and are still doing) but seeing this info for the first time just makes me think, "meh, best of luck motus."

I hope the lifespan between production and historical footnote in a coffee table book is longer than it took for them to get this close to production.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Monday, March 19, 2012 - 02:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The pricing you guys want is dependent upon economies of scale.

A new start up simply won't have it.

Early adopters are willing to pay the premium to get one of the first. It happens with cars, computers, DVD players, etc.

I remember when my neighbor bought a DVD player. I didn't know what the hell that was. He said it plays laser disks but that they were the size of a CD. I said that sounded cool.

"How much did it cost?"

"Only $950!" he gleefully responded.

It wasn't even progressive scan.

The first computers were $10,000 for a PC.

My wife's sister was REALLY excited when her parents bit the bullet and bought her a digital calculator.

For $149. It added, subtracted, multiplied, and divided.

Buells were REALLY expensive at the time. The RS1200 was $14,795.

Compared with MUCH better equipped bikes from well known manufacturers, it was overpriced.

Economies of scale brought the price down.


Motus didn't just pull the price out of a hat. If they could have charged less, they would have.
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Dynasport
Posted on Monday, March 19, 2012 - 07:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Until, if ever, EBR makes a sport-touring bike, the Motus is my dream bike. I am really glad I have the XT to keep me happy for as long as it takes for EBR or Motus to come out with a bike I can buy that I'd rather have. Perhaps I'll have to wait until someone wants to sell their well maintained, barely used Motus for half what they paid for it.
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Court
Posted on Monday, March 19, 2012 - 07:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hahaha . . . I tossed my $3,200 fax machine and my 105# (complete with vacuum tubes) Motorola IMTS phone a couple years ago.

Anyone else remember the first CELLULAR phones? We have 2 of the first ones. To call from Dallas to LA you had to dial the "LA Cell System", get a dial tone and then dial again. Later that year was the "bag phone" (same phone in a bag) then the 8000 "brick". Ahhhhh . . the days of $1,500/month cell bills.

Now over 90% of the folks in welfare and public assistance have cell phones.

Times change.

(Message edited by court on March 19, 2012)
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Monday, March 19, 2012 - 08:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I remember when the only people who had cell phones were on Dallas or Dynasty.

I worked for Contel Cellular in the old days when you had to go through a complete credit check in order to get a phone. If your credit didn't check out, you had to put down a $250, $500, or $1000 deposit and only the highest credit folks could finance a phone.


If you have to ask about price, you are not an early adopter.
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