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Pontlee77
Posted on Saturday, March 10, 2012 - 02:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So today I went to a bike show, I'm glad I don't have the cash for that bike, really nice looking and sitting on it it doesen't look so heavy as it is, maybe in 2 weeks time i can demo ride one, wondering if I should do that or avoid it as I love my Uly, BMW, Yamaha, Honda, Ktm or even Ducati, don't seduce me as much as the Triumph, I have to admit they have made at first sight a great looking bike, and they told me the oil change is every 15.000 Kilometers? not bad at all, but i wonder what each service costs, as for my Uly i service it my self and for under 60$ i change the oil, the primary oil the oil filter and still have 1,4 extra liters of oil.
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Saturday, March 10, 2012 - 04:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mike,
Save your money. It just isn't that great a bike. It's a BMW clone with a Triumph motor.
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Skifastbadly
Posted on Saturday, March 10, 2012 - 10:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What a timely post. Cause two minutes ago, I realized the following:

I do love my Uly, I've loved them both. But there's a little tiny particle of brain in my head that thinks a different bike would be more reliable should I ever attempt a WA/OR/ID/MT loop again. And the Tiger is getting great reviews, and it looks good, and shit, I already have a Triumph tee shirt cause I have a Scrambler. So I've been going back and forth on this very topic in my teeny tiny head. But today I found an heretofore undiscovered (to me) forest service road that took me several miles over muddy, pothole infested gravel, then turned around and hit the tarmac for an hour. It was raining and gray and cold the whole time. And I loved every damned second of it. And I realized that I could buy three MORE Ulys and stick 'em in my garage and probably still be under what a new properly set up Tiger would run me. And I can drop the Ulys and not feel like I just had two grand vanish from my wallet.

I am content.
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Redtail
Posted on Saturday, March 10, 2012 - 10:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was looking at a older Tiger and went back to give her a test and make her mine only to find the cougar sold. The newer Tigers are real sweet. I find my self still looking at them and the Yamaha super T. Just looking at em.
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Nukeblue
Posted on Saturday, March 10, 2012 - 11:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i just got a tiger 800. i can honestly say it's the best bike i've ever owned. i see no need for the 1200 over this thing. at least for what i got it for, me myself and i! it does everything real well
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Jphish
Posted on Saturday, March 10, 2012 - 11:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hmmm - a BMW clone ?? I didnt think there were ANY interchangeable parts between the 2? Many really big trailies, (S-10 & triumph included) no doubt borrowed from the 'motorwerks' experience, & in the process probably improved some things. Taking nothing away from the Uly - Triumph is building some pretty well sorted machines. I think the 1200 will prove to be a quite capable adventure tourer. Wouldnt trade my 800xc for one, as it does everything I want, in a smaller package.
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Jphish
Posted on Saturday, March 10, 2012 - 11:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Geez Skifast' - If you already got the T-shirt - you have to get a 1200...it's a rule
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Sunday, March 11, 2012 - 01:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Buell spoiled me rotten with the fuel in frame, oil in swingarm, muffler under the motor. Triumph is so yesterday's tech. I'll wait for the Buell AX hybrid because I'm in no hurry.
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Xbimmer
Posted on Sunday, March 11, 2012 - 02:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Buell spoiled me rotten with the fuel in frame, oil in swingarm, muffler under the motor.

We're riding exotics IMO even with the Lump, I'm keeping mine no matter what I get next, and it's probably going to be a Triumph. Unless I come across a pristine low mileage R1200ST...
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Johnboy777
Posted on Sunday, March 11, 2012 - 09:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I rode the 800xc at a Pittsburgh dealer and loved it - very nice, well-balance, bike, IMHO.
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Pontlee77
Posted on Monday, March 12, 2012 - 04:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Triumph is so yesterdays tech? I doubt that.
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Monday, March 12, 2012 - 10:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pontlee,
As far as I'm concerned all bikes are yesterdays tech, until they either replace the ICE or hybridize by coupling an electric motor to an ICE.
ZERO is on the right path but you can't, as yet, expect to go to far out of town on one.
Hard to believe that my 4-5 passenger Prius gets as good or better mileage than any of my 2 passenger motorcycles.
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Johnboy777
Posted on Monday, March 12, 2012 - 11:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good grief Charlie Brown!

Get your facts straight, Vincent had oil storage in the frame in the 1950's (maybe mid-50's, check on it) & Honda had fuel in frame in the 60's or 70's, as I recall, on one of their odd little bikes.

Of course this is the internet, where whoever says whatever, and it makes it so.

Buell high tech - that's a good one.

The under slung muffler - yeah, there’s a real gem; put it where it can (and does) rust and get beat to hell my all kinds of crap. The only reason it matters at all (in Erik’s muffler demonstration) is because it's so damn heavy - and the reason it's so damn heavy is because it’s a jacking point. If it was aluminum, or CF it wouldn’t matter where you placed it. Now that damn valve that useless and adds unneeded complexity to the whole thing. Actuators crap out - cables loosen up and leave the valve closed. There are lots of folks running around with closed (or half-closed) valves and don’t even know it. I was one.

I bought mine ‘cause it was old, basic technology.

A high-tech Uly ...very funny.

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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Monday, March 12, 2012 - 11:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mine flies.
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Johnboy777
Posted on Monday, March 12, 2012 - 12:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

""Mine flies.""

Damn, EG, once again, you win.


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(Message edited by johnboy777 on March 12, 2012)
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Bartimus
Posted on Monday, March 12, 2012 - 09:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the Explorer isn't a "BMW clone" in any form. It's a top notch, state of the art, adventure bike, much unlike the Uly.
I think Electra has been drinking too much of the Hardley Ableson coolaid.
Personally, I think the Explorer is going to give BMW a run for their money.
But it's too top- heavy, and expensive for me, so I went with the Yamaha Super Tenere.
Priced about the same as my '08 ULY XT was, it comes with traction control, ABS, and is geared more towards 50/50 street/dirt use.

I wouldn't want a BMW clone, I prefer my driveshafts to stay intact for the whole ride, and I don't like electrical gremlins.
And if I wanted a high priced dealership, I would have kept my Hardley...
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Jphish
Posted on Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - 11:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"I prefer my driveshafts to stay intact for the whole ride"...HA! That will certainly upset the cool-aid sipin 'panzerheads' for sure. It was a problem on the earlier 1200GS - have they got that sorted on the newer models? I don't follow B'mer issues... I own 2 tigers now, but really like the S-10, nice choice!
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - 01:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Skifastbadly... get two Uly's, a KDX-200, and a trailer to haul the KDX. Heck, for that money, you could get a KTM 450 or 350 and still be ahead.

Go places on the KDX that the Uly and Tiger could never dream of.

(Though if anyone ever wants to give me a new tiger, I'll happily own and ride one. : ) ).
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - 01:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Must Drink Buellaid.
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