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Blasterd
Posted on Monday, May 16, 2011 - 06:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have my rear wheel off for a new tire and need to put rear pads on -of which I have thanks to Al @ American Sport Bike and was curious if the pads can be removed without disassembly of the caliper???
Or should I do it like the manual says and remove the caliper after I reinstall the rear wheel?
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Rwven
Posted on Monday, May 16, 2011 - 10:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm fairly sure that if you have the wheel off you can install the pads without removing the caliper. Just make sure you fully retract the caliper or you won't be able to get the rear wheel back on.
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Cpeg
Posted on Monday, May 16, 2011 - 11:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes you can, just pull the one bolt that goes threw the pads, they will just about fall out. Just be sure you get all the springs and clips back in.
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Xbimmer
Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2011 - 12:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's a good idea to remove the caliper and mount from the swingarm so you can clean up the piston before pushing it back in, and the springs in there too. No need to disassemble the caliper itself or disconnect the line.

It's also a good idea to remove each of the flange bolts that the caliper moves around on, get them cleaned up and greased. It's easier to do that once you bolt the mount back up to the swingarm, and each one one at a time. The caliper needs to easily float around the rotor.
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Blasterd
Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2011 - 08:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

wtf???
I take it it necessary to remove those "flange" bolts (bolts with rubber surrounds) to get the caliper back on the bike?
I had to step away for a bit after an aggrivating day already.
I couldn't get the caliper back over the rotor with the pads on.
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Xbimmer
Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 - 01:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I take it it necessary to remove those "flange" bolts (bolts with rubber surrounds) to get the caliper back on the bike?

No, it's not.

1. Remove pin from caliper and pads will drop out.
2. Remove two bolts to remove mount/caliper from swingarm.
3. Remove springs from caliper, clean up in there and get any crud off the piston.
4. Push piston FULLY back into caliper, check fluid level in reservoir.
5. For me it's easier at this point to assemble the pads to the caliper before remounting to swingarm. Put a very light coating of disc brake grease on the pad/spring/caliper contact points and the pin.
6. Hook the fronts of the pads up onto their ledges in the caliper, careful not to dislodge the springs, and swing the rears up and slip in the pin.
7. Carefully lower the assembly down over the rotor. If you have FULLY seated the piston it will be snug but will go. At this point you may have to move the caliper back and forth on the flange bolts to assist, careful not to dislodge the pads/springs.
8. Bolt the mount back to the swingarm.
9. Here is where I always remove the flange bolts. They are there to allow the caliper to float against the rotor. I remove the rear one first to clean and grease, then reinstall. I remove the front, and get the grease out of its recess in the mount, clean and fresh grease it and reinstall.
10. Torque, check fluid level, pump up pedal to seat pads, done. One hour taking my time, but I've replaced several sets in five years.

Hope that helps.
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Cpeg
Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 - 02:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You confused me, I thought you had the wheel off.
With the wheel on, what Xbimmer said.
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Blasterd
Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 - 04:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I did have the wheel off but when I was installing the pads I couldn't get the disc between the pads and the retaining spring fell out so I removed the caliper from the swingarm and reinstalled the wheel and tried to fit it but still had no luck. The swingarm bracket is flush with the inside pad and as a relult the dis has no room to go between the pads. I puched the piston as far back as it would go, flush with the caliper but I dunno.
I gave up and called the wife to come pick me up from work, she wasn't very happy- neither was the 2 y/o as it is 60 miles from where I live .
I've never had any trouble with brakes before, bike or truck but I am going to give it another go in a couple of hours.
For the record I did it almost like Xbimmer said except I didnt take apart those flange bolts and clean them.
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Blasterd
Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 - 10:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

just wanted to update everyone (I know a week late) about the rear brakes. I got them installed, there was some binding at the front piston caliper flange bolt. Took it off and cleaned it up and reinstalled and it went back together fine. It looked like diaelectric grease was in there but all I had was lithium grease to use so thats what she got.
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