| Author | Message | ||
     Etennuly |
Those of you whom have purchased and installed the 6mm rotor, or the 5mm, install kit, and pads from Erik Buell Racing.....what do you think?  Now that you have had some time and miles, are they still running smoothly? Is there any pulsing at any time during use? What pads did you install? And did you use the stock caliper?  I'm not going racing and am looking for a pad that will work from cold and not fade when hot. I have the Lyndal Golds now, and except for the pulsing factory rotor, I am satisfied with these pads. I'm about to go there and want to know.....ya know? I need to find out what it is like on the Uly to come into a corner without that damn front brake pulsation. I did some hard cornering on the Blast a while back and it was awesome to pull a brake lever that let the bike smoothly slow coming on to a corner. I know, with 55,000 miles on the Uly I should have done this a long while ago, but if I had, only a stock HD replacement would have been available at the time. | ||
| Carvbuell |
Over the winter I removed my stock front rotor that was pulsing. I installed new lyndalls, Erik Buell Racing mounting hardware and honed the stock rotor with the rotor hone from American Sport Bike. So far with only a few hundred miles nice and smooth braking, just like new. The markings on the rotor that were there from the deposits are completely gone. I have not done much heavy braking yet. Time will only tell if these brakes leave deposits as well. I don't think replacing the rotor should be a first step fix, and I don't think it is a permanent fix either. If my pulsing redevelopes, I will simply remove it and re-hone it. | ||
| Rwven |
I've got several thousand miles on my 6mm rotor and E-B-R mounting kit. I am very pleased with it. I went through 2 stock rotors even after switching to Lyndall pads but I could not get clear of the pulsing, the E-B-R kit took care of it. | ||
| Reepicheep |
I have probably put 5000 miles on the Erik Buell Racing 6mm rotor and mounting kit on my Uly, and it's absolutely perfect. I used Lyndall Gold's, and when I do it again I will probably go for something with a little more aggressive initial bite (just a personal preference thing, not an ultimate performance thing. The Lyndall golds will happily flip the bike with two fingers). | ||
| Road_kill |
Hey Vern, I've got ~6k miles on my new rotor. I bought p/n 17328 - Finned Front Rotor Kit - from American Sport Bike. Not sure if it is the 5mm or 6mm, but it's the SEXY $235 model that was "designed using Computational Fluid Dynamics and tested extensively on the race track, this new perimeter-finned brake rotor reduces brake temperatures and improves both feel and stopping power. This is slightly heavier than the stock rotor, and more expensive, so get this one only if you routinely push the temperatures up on the stock rotor with either track or mountain use. Includes mounting hardware." I also use Lyndall Gold Plus pads. I absolutely love it. | ||
| Etennuly |
Thanks guys. That is what I wanted to hear. I believe a non-pulsing front brake would make this Uly a nearly perfect machine. I have not been able to ride much the past six months or so due to changes in my business. I got out yesterday in 75F degree weather just for a trip to town. This morning my face is cramping from long missed permagrin!  | ||
| Hughlysses |
Vern- Add me to the list of satisfied customers. I think I installed the Erik Buell Racing mounting kit and 6mm rotor, and EBC pads from American Sport Bike about a year ago. I'm just about convinced the mounting kit makes all the difference. It might be worth trying before you invest in the rotor, but the 6mm rotor is a heck of a buy since it's cheaper than the OEM piece. | ||
| Dfishman |
About 4500 miles on my 6mm rotor & Lyndell pads.Perfection! | ||
| Xdigitalx |
Mine is great! I swapped out the rotor and mounts to the 6mm kit, left the existing pads (EBC) on as they weren't too old. No more wobbly rotor. | ||
| Svh |
I installed the 6mm and and the Rotor Mounting kit and a set of EBC pads that Barker recommended. Happy with all of them. My original pads and rotor were beginning to pulse after 9k miles ran this setup for about 2k so far and no problems at all. Next up is an ECM... | ||
| Etennuly |
This is awesome to hear.  I will be ordering parts soon, the pads are about done anyway. | ||
| Billy_bee |
I was asking the folks @ Erik Buell Racing today about this set-up and was told the 6mm rotor is on special right now with a coupon code. I scuffed up the existing rotor. It's a little better, but a few hard stops and the pulsing return. I'm ordering the rotor and mounting kit tomorrow. bb | ||
| Sperz1 |
I have about 500 miles on the new 6mm rotor/mounting hardware/ and pads. Makes a world of difference. | ||
| Ratbuell |
New stock rotor, lyndall golds, Erik Buell Racing mounting kit, and about 1200 miles. Verrrry niiiice. Take the plunge, you won't be sorry  | ||
| Trevd |
6mm rotor is on special right now with a coupon code coupon code? what coupon code?? | ||
| Tootal |
6mm rotor, mounting kit and Lyndall Golds and it worked great for a while but it started to pulsate again. I was out running errands last weekend and took the scenic route where there is a short section of road with curves in it!!! YEAH!!  I needed to knock the Winter rust off so I nailed it. As I was coming into a hard left at 80  I grabbed a handful of that front brake and really lightened the back end. Back on the gas through the turn and into the next. After several hard braking episodes I had cleared the twisties and was back on the straight farm roads. BORING! As I pulled up at the next stop I noticed they weren't pulsating!! I guess commuting and boring roads are the worse thing you can do to your BUELL! | ||
| Arcticktm |
Vern, 3K+ miles on 6mm rotor, Erik Buell Racing mount kit and new EBC HH pads at the time of install. Beautiful, and as smooth as day 1. I am not a fan of the Lyndal pads (I had them on the stock rotor). Not enough bite, and did nothing for pulsing for me. they also were a mess on the wheel. EBC's work for me. I would even be happy with MORE initial bite. It might be the fork dive that has some thinking the EBC's have too much initial bite? I switched to '07 fork springs, change the oil every 10K, and tend to run my preload setting at least 2 levels stiffer than the manual suggests for my weight. I also tend to use the rear brake to level out the bike. Go for it! Use new pads for sure, though, even if you decide you want to stick with Lyndall. | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
Vern... if there is any way you can get your hands on the 1190 rotor... We all would like a ride report on that farkle  | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
got my answer this morning from E.B.R. tech "Yes it will fit, but they won't be available for several months. Price will be in the neighborhood of $175 each" | ||
| Etennuly |
Well my parts should be here in a day or so! I cannot wait to see what it is like to have a smooth brake action coming into a corner on my Uly! I ordered the 6mm with the install kit and Lyndall Gold pads. With my orders from Erik Buell Racing and American Sport Bike the Uly should be like new for the next 55,000 miles. I'm even going to change the fork oil! Did anyone scuff the new rotor before installing it? Do a burn in type break in? | ||
| Andymnelson |
I despised the Lyndahl Gold brake pads. I literally hated them bad enough to give them away (sorry Pat!). They lacked initial bite, required way more lever squeeze and hot spotted my rotor worse than any stock pads I have ever used. They are not the magic fix all that some preach them to be. | ||
| Portero72 |
'I despised the Lyndahl Gold brake pads. I literally hated them bad enough to give them away (sorry Pat!). They lacked initial bite, required way more lever squeeze and hot spotted my rotor worse than any stock pads I have ever used. They are not the magic fix all that some preach them to be.' + 1 for me. Had the exact same experience with my bike. | ||
| Ratbuell |
I've made the golds fade to the point I almost went field-hopping without meaning to, but right now they're working and I don't have much for disposable income so I'm just gonna ride em out. I did the "burn-in" rotor seasoning method. 50mph stops to 0, did about six or eight of em in a row. Hard. Like, lift-the-ass-end hard. Working beautifully so far | ||
| Etennuly |
Maybe I have had good luck with the Lyndall pads because they have acted much better than the stock ones, but I still cannot get hard on them with the pulsing that my rotor has. We shall see. When I put the Lyndalls on the stock rotor I burned them in good. Turned the rotor blue had smoke boiling off it and they were smooth at the time. It was kinda fun! | ||
| Ratbuell |
Actually, Vern...you were there when I nearly offroaded it. Last years' ResRide. Running THAT pace all day, 2-up? Heh. No wonder they faded. | ||
| Brakes2late |
Sadly the pulsing has returned even with the 6mm rotor and EBC pads. I don't know how many miles before it started up again but I do 95% of my riding on the freeway so mileage isn't a good indicator of brake use. At the end of my 40 mile commute from Ventura to Santa Barbara I hit my exit and grab a handful of brake and it pulses like mad. If I let up and grab again the pulsing practically disappears but can still be felt as I slowly come to a stop. | ||
| Sekalilgai |
my face is cramping from long missed permagrin! Hiya Vern!  | ||
| Hughlysses |
Brakes2late- One thing that can cause brake pulsing is braking technique. If you brake hard coming to a stop and then leave the front brake clamped tight while sitting there, you can get brake pad material transfer to the rotor, especially if the rotor is hot. This results in an uneven braking force as wheel rotates and the "sticky" part of the rotor contacts the pads. Some people have blamed ALL Buell front brake pulsing on this but I don't believe that that's true. It is probably true in some cases. I've always made a point to do "graduated" braking- start with front, as you approach stop, apply rear, ease off on front, by the time you stop you're using 100% rear brake, and use that to hold the bike at the stop. This technique should prevent uneven brake pad material transfer to the rotor. Graduated braking is also a good braking technique in general- you're most likely to dump the bike if the front wheel locks, and the pavement approaching stop signs and stop lights is often oily or has trash laying around like smashed beer cans, either of which can easily result in a locked wheel if you're braking hard approaching the stop. | ||
| Brakes2late |
Hugh - I agree with the braking technique and use it most of the time but in this case my rotor never gets hot enough for this theory to hold water. For the little bit of brake I use everyday find it hard to believe much of anything can be built up on the rotor at all but I did have the Erik Buell Racing rotor on the bike for several months before the problem started again. Maybe the cold rotor after 40 miles exaggerates the pulsing since the "build up" is cold, and then lessons as the build up gets hot and "smears" into the rotor again? My original rotor was warped for sure (I measured it). | ||
| Etennuly |
Well the parts are in and some are on. The new 6mm rotor and installation kit is a nice fit and looks great. I won't get to finish today so I don't know about a test drive with the new front brake set up yet. There is some nasty weather heading in this afternoon and for the next two days.  Hopefully that will give me some time to get'er done between my other jobs! | ||
| Someday |
Figured I'd chime in. I have 12,500 mi on my '08 Uly and haven't had any pulsing problems with the stock pads and rotor. I just replaced the mounting hardware on my stock set-up with the Erik Buell Racing hardware. I don't know why but the braking feels "slightly" more positive. I have no complaints with the stock pads except they'll probably be gone at 15,000 miles. | ||
| Arcticktm |
Vern, I did not scuff the new rotor before using it. I did some progressive stops, but not to the extent you describe. then again, I put on on new EBC pads, because I believe the Lyndalls were one of the worst pads I have ever used. Like a dog with no teeth... Still good as of yesterday! | ||
| Etennuly |
Well it stops smooth now! Only have a few miles on it, but it is nice. |
