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Hughesatron
Posted on Monday, February 14, 2011 - 10:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've got 2+ week trip to alaska this summer on my '06 Uly and I was wondering what you guys thought of the necessity of carrying a replacement belt. My bike has about 22k miles on the original belt. Also, I have had the rear bearings replaced, but do you think I should bring some spares also? Any good sources for inexpensive replacement belts? Thanks.
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Charlie_zulu
Posted on Monday, February 14, 2011 - 10:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

American sportbike for the Belt. I'm planning the same trip but next year and I plan on carrying a spare belt and other "items" just in case. Are you venturing up the Haul road or Dempster highway?
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Ronmold
Posted on Monday, February 14, 2011 - 10:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Put on a new one, get a few miles on it and carry your old one as a spare.
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7873jake
Posted on Monday, February 14, 2011 - 11:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here's my insurance policy train-of-thought: Whenever I leave the house for more than a day ride, I make sure to take my spare, period. I just started classifying it as part of the ATGATT list even though it isn't safety gear, per se.

Not having it complicates everything as (1) they are not readily available, (2) not having one means a tow or having to leave the bike where it came to rest, (3) the *fastest* anyone could mail/fedex/ups one to you would be the next day in a perfect scenario.

Many suggest putting the new one on and using the take-off as a spare. You can pack the old belt in a smaller space than a new one (more flexible) and its easier to put on when deep in the weeds, in the dark, in the rain, with bears bearing down on you.

I've not seen a wide range of prices on the belts...I think every one I've ever seen was in the vicinity of $175. I ordered mine from American Sport Bike and had it within a week without any rapid rush delivery. That was CA to FL, ftr. Some BW sponsors offer a discount so you may be able to find it 10-25% cheaper than that.
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Union_man
Posted on Monday, February 14, 2011 - 11:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I put on a new belt and carry the old one as a spare.

Wheel Bearings
On my way to Homecoming 2010 my rear wheel bearings went out. Charliezulu had a set of bearings and the tool to change them. He saved my trip!!!
I went to HD and replaced the borrowed bearings and on the way home Charliezulu's rear bearings went out too!!!




I now carry an extra set of front and rear bearings under the seat next to the old belt.

(Message edited by union_man on February 14, 2011)
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Monday, February 14, 2011 - 11:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

under the seat or stashed someplace on the bike

Belt
Bearings
shifter
shifter linkage
front isolator
brake lever
clutch lever
muffler straps
tire plugs
mini compressor

and a bunch of other stuff to do roadside repairs.... So far I have helped more people out than saved my on bacon.
Its a good insurance policy.... If I have it, I wont need it.
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Hughesatron
Posted on Monday, February 14, 2011 - 12:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think I'll definitely get a spare belt and some bearings this week. I've got most of the other typical repair stuff, so this should round out my package.
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Scooter808484
Posted on Monday, February 14, 2011 - 02:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fuses, I think maybe there's a fuel pump relay also. Those will kill you at least as dead as a belt.
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Uly_man
Posted on Monday, February 14, 2011 - 03:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well put it this way Hughesatron.

I was on my way, from the UK, for a trip to Germany and the like. The belt went just as I went through the Channel tunnel security barrier and although a dealer was close at hand it was a Sunday and they were closed. End of trip.

If nothing else take a belt with you. It is easy to change out on the road side. Having one to hand at home is always a help as you are going to need it sooner or later anyway.
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Ftd
Posted on Monday, February 14, 2011 - 04:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Does someone have a list handy of what tools are needed to do a road side belt change??

TIA
Frank
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Tootal
Posted on Monday, February 14, 2011 - 05:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You should have the adapter for the axles in your Buell tool pouch. You will need the wrench that fits that.

You will need the allen wrench that fits the removable swing arm section.

You will need the torx bit/driver for the screws holding the front pulley cover.

And if you're putting on a new belt you might need the wrench that fits the idler pulley.

I highly recommend you install the new belt at home using these tools so you have an idea of how to do it.

As mentioned, the old belt is easier to stash and easier to put on.
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Dfishman
Posted on Monday, February 14, 2011 - 05:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And.............I solved the wheel bearing problem!

I bought spares when I got the bike in 2006.They are under the seat.I regrease at tire time & they are holding up well at 30000miles.I do say use your old belt as a spare as it is prestretched & easier to install on the side of the road.
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Sekalilgai
Posted on Monday, February 14, 2011 - 07:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So far I have helped more people out than saved my on bacon.


hey I resemble that remark!
Thanks Mark!
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Monday, February 14, 2011 - 08:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

hugs and kisses, Ken
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Scooter808484
Posted on Monday, February 14, 2011 - 08:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+several on installing the new belt in the garage. The new belt is a bear to get on under the best of circumstances.
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Rotorhead
Posted on Monday, February 14, 2011 - 09:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Another though,t if you run out of space to carry all your parts is to have them labeled and ready to ship via fedex or ups. Thats if you have a trusting person that you left home thats not bitter about being left home, can ship them to you. It's a old LD hiker trick to reload along the way instead of carrying all the crap you may not need.

BTW I'd add a voltage Reg to the parts list on the '06. The new ones come with the new style 77 connector also.

DON'T leave home without a current BRAN listing.
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/boar d-auth.cgi?file=/42/42.html

THIS LIST WILL SAVE YOUR TRIP!!!!! it saved mine
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, February 14, 2011 - 10:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

THIS LIST WILL SAVE YOUR TRIP!!!!! it saved mine




Same here! I started to go through the list at a rest stop in Bumblefrak, PA, during Homecoming week. I was starting to get scared as half the names I recognized on the list were going to Homecoming, so I figured I was too late. I ended up getting in touch with Toona who had other plans that weekend, he drove an hour each way to come pick me up, haul my piece of crap bike to his shop, took my wheel off, then took a wheel off Xb9er's bike and I was able to finish my trip while I waited for new bearings to get shipped to Toona so he can have his neighbor press them in.

To top it off, Toona let me stay at his place for the night, and bought me breakfast at an awesome local diner the next morning. He wouldn't let me pay, I still owe him. If it wasn't for Badweb and the BRAN, I would of probably set my bike on fire at that rest stop and then hitched a ride home.
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Toona
Posted on Monday, February 14, 2011 - 10:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



Just trying to return the favor for all the help you've offered to the rest of us Badweb'rs.

I believe they call that "Paying it forward"!
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Hughesatron
Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2011 - 10:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

why add a voltage regulator to the list? Is that something that goes bad with the '06 Ulys? I feel like from most of these comments that I need to pack my garage into my panniers..
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Charlie_zulu
Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2011 - 10:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The connector (77) and regulator are subject to scrutiny. Do you have any way to monitor your voltage ? Installing a Voltage output gauge while not required, it might be prudent to do for such a journey.
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2011 - 10:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

why add a voltage regulator to the list?




Don't. It was just a connector issue, if you replace the connector before hand, you probably will never have an issue. If you are gonna carry a VR, you might as well start carrying spare rims, spare fuel injectors, spare tail lights, and spare mufflers.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2011 - 01:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Some sort of voltage monitor is a VERY good idea, but I agree on no need for a spare VR.
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Hughesatron
Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2011 - 01:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Can you recommend a voltage monitor that you use? I'm unfamiliar with these products.
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7873jake
Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2011 - 01:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I took one of these that I got at the J&P cycle up the road from me: http://www.jpcycles.com/product/ZZ73218

Popped the case open and filled the voids with clear silicone in some areas, low-temp hot glue in others because the case isn't water-tight. I did run it for about a month before doing this and got it wet three times and it came back on every time. YMMV...

The wires are very thin so they will fit between the speedo and your 'dash' area. I tied the red to the cig plug lead (IIRC) and the black to a ground under the flyscreen. There's an orange lead to tie in to the battery to keep the clock going when the bike is off but I think I just left it fallow since my GPS and the ODO both have a clock.

It comes with a temp probe that, for fun, I ran to an area behind the rear cyl head just to see what those temps look like. Purely for curiosity and not at all an accurate assessment of head temp.

Its nice to be able to see what's going on when its running and then also see the changes in voltage when I turn on the aftermarket lights or heated grips.

I wanted to do something like this: http://www.digitalmeter.com/cgi-bin/webshop.cgi?co nfig=ent-datel&uid=dmonkvaa129627109695&command=li nk--mirrorinstallation.htm

but never got around to it. Click on the "Install meter in a side mirror" link for another take on it.

Some other links I had bookmarked when I considered adding one: http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/142 838/554639.html

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/142 838/335986.html

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/142 838/499389.html

There may be some overlap in those links.
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Hughesatron
Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2011 - 01:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

wow. excellent info. thank you for summarizing everything.
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Billyo
Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2011 - 02:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+1 on the meter from J&P for easy installation. Since I can't ride to work (work truck) I rarely get stuck in the rain so I haven't had a problem with moisture. It's good to be able to turn on accessories one by one and see how much the voltage drops and know when to turn something off.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2011 - 07:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I run the Kuryakyn meter on ALL of my bikes. Small, easy to read, and accurate enough to be worth some good.

Do NOT wire it to the dash aux outlet. Once the voltage drops to the point where you NEED the meter...the ECM shuts that circuit off. I have mine tapped into the gauge lighting circuit.

My 77 went south coming back from Res Ride. I SAW it before it caused any problems, on the meter. Fiddled and prodded the connector and made the hour and a half home.

Next morning, replaced the connector.

Saved it quick enough to avoid damage to either the VR or the stator.

Haven't had a problem since, and I run:
heated grips
heated jacket and gloves
aux lights wired to high beam
aux tail and brake lights (LED)
GPS
battery-hot power outlet for USB chargers
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7873jake
Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2011 - 09:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Funny you should bring that up re: the aux port and not tapping in there.

Curious about where I had tapped in to after I posted, I went out and confirmed that it was fed off of my add-on fuse block. I went to some schematic notes I made when doing this add-on (as well as tail light bezel mods, etc) and there, before me, was "not off of the aux port".

One more reason why I owe BW more than I can ever repay.
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Motorfish
Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2011 - 10:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I installed the Custom Dynamics unit as per the Fatty Mod, and I love it. Could not be any cleaner, looks stock. Dims at night. The unit from J&P Cycles is also available from Aerostich.
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Bttrthnwrk
Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2011 - 10:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Once the voltage drops to the point where you NEED the meter...the ECM shuts that circuit off. "

Question: Once the ECM shuts off the aux circuit and the voltage meter goes dark, what else about the voltage do you really need to know?
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