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7873jake
Posted on Wednesday, December 01, 2010 - 10:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anyone that has installed the ROX risers (or any risers for that matter), does the new position necessitate a change in the cables or brake line to finish the install? ("change" being a reroute or some such other adventure).

Just asking before I jump in to this one as I changed my seat to the tall one and started getting numb hands because of a different sit/lean position. I have been experimenting with handlebar positions since, as it seems the new, albeit minute, change in height now has my hands at a different angle. I'm either numb in the hands with the new seat or numb elsewhere with the shorter seat.
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Wednesday, December 01, 2010 - 11:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I added a top clamp under the handlebars.
That raised them up about a 1" or so
No issues with the cables
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7873jake
Posted on Wednesday, December 01, 2010 - 11:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just so I'm clear, you added a top clamp flipped upside down under the bars? I didn't think of that one, hmmmmm...I like that.
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Wednesday, December 01, 2010 - 11:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

that's what I did.... "El Cheap O"
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Ronmold
Posted on Wednesday, December 01, 2010 - 11:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A little banjo bolt brake line adjustment with my Rox risers but that's it. Throttle lines get tight lock-to-lock but not overly so. I narrowed the bars 7/8" on both sides with a pipe cutter, re-drilled the control's positioning tab holes and also re-bent the sweep & drop at the first bend by the mirror mounts. I did this by heating the bend cherry red and VERY carefully bent them into the new position without kinking the tubing, the Cro-Moly bars work great for this, you can't do that with aluminum alloy very well. After sanding them a bit I gave them 2 coats of Rust-Oleum gray textured paint that's hard to tell from stock. I had to bend them twice to get the right "feel", especially time-consuming with all the adjustability of the Rox pivoting risers. The feel is more natural for my riding position now and narrowing the bars gave a little more length to the throttle cables.
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Crusty
Posted on Wednesday, December 01, 2010 - 12:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I put the 1" risers from Precision Engineering on my XT and my wife's Ss and have had no problems.

(Message edited by Crusty on December 01, 2010)
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Hughlysses
Posted on Wednesday, December 01, 2010 - 12:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had the Precision Engineering 1 inch risers on mine; no cable issues. I've since taken them off because the bike works a little better for me in the twisties without the higher bars.
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Whisperstealth
Posted on Wednesday, December 01, 2010 - 02:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Where can you find cheap top clamps?
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Wednesday, December 01, 2010 - 02:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think they retail for 15 bucks or so at your local dealer...
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Billyo
Posted on Wednesday, December 01, 2010 - 08:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ronmold-what did you do? bend them so that they are straighter out instead of angled back? I did that with the warden's SCG and put Rox risers on.
The brake line needed to be freed up from the clamps but that was all that needed adjusted. I don't know if a Uly would ned anything additional.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, December 01, 2010 - 09:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had a 1" rise on my Uly for a while and noticed more clutch cable rub, cable-to-sheath. Never any slippage/engagement issues, but definitely a harder pull and I could feel the strands of the cable sliding through the sheath. YMMV.
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Whisperstealth
Posted on Wednesday, December 01, 2010 - 09:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wolf, forgive my ignorance, but an HD dealer? Are these top clamps the same ones that fit sportsters?
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Wednesday, December 01, 2010 - 10:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A dealer that once was a Buell dealer...
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Motorbike
Posted on Wednesday, December 01, 2010 - 10:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have the 1" Precision Engineering risers on my 08 XT. No cable issues whatsoever. Very easy install. I also have the 06 tall seat. I'm 6'0" and this combo really works for me. 1" on the risers doesn't sound like much but it put my bars exactly where I like them.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, December 01, 2010 - 11:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No, a HD clamp won't work. All HD's use 1" bars, Buells use 7/8" bars.
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Desert_bird
Posted on Thursday, December 02, 2010 - 01:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Has anyone tried the 7/8" Rox Bar Risers, 2" rise? Cabling issues?

DB
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Mbest
Posted on Thursday, December 02, 2010 - 03:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi Guys, I put the 2" Rox Risers on my '08 Uly over 40K miles ago. I made a cable guide "thingie" that pokes out from the hole in the Rox Risers for the throttle cables to go thru. It's made out of a 1/8" stainless rod about 7 or 8 inches long with a 3/4" to 1" loop on the "throttle cable" end. I route the cables under the top triple clamp, between the fork tube and the frame. Routing the cables thru the guide "thingie" gives more usable length with no binding or stetching of the cables at full lock. The guide floats back and forth in the holes of the Rox Risers as you turn left and right. The "guide" prevents the cables from becoming pinched between the fork tube or top triple clamp and the frame when at full lock to the right. If you route the cables without the little guide you'll see the length is good but also how they can get crushed between the fork tube and frame. I have zero problems or issues with mine or on the dozen or so I've installed on other bikes. I'm over 40k miles now on mine alone.
If you can't form one up for yourself, PM me and I'll send you one.
You can make a "practice" one out of a coat hanger wire to install and confirm your routing etc. But coat angers may bend or fail if you use them as a finished product.
Let me know what you think, or if you'd like me to send you one of mine.
My bike is an '08 Uly with the increased steering lock, but it works on the lightnings and early Ulys too.
A slight "re-alignment" of the brake line at the master cyl banjo fitting as earlier mentioned is all thats needed for the brakes.
I've said this before, but I'll post a pic this time I promise.
ride safe
mike
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Desert_bird
Posted on Thursday, December 02, 2010 - 03:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pic/s please.

DB
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Mbest
Posted on Thursday, December 02, 2010 - 04:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh Yea, Lucked out and found a few old pics on the laptop. Hope they help.. #1




Rox Riser Cable Guide
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Mbest
Posted on Thursday, December 02, 2010 - 04:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh Yea, Lucked out and found a few old pics on the laptop. Hope they help.. #2



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Mbest
Posted on Thursday, December 02, 2010 - 04:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh Yea, Lucked out and found a few old pics on the laptop. Hope they help.. #3



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Desert_bird
Posted on Thursday, December 02, 2010 - 04:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks a lot. Gotta love Uly owners!

So how does your doohicky fasten? What is it attached to on the inside of the Roxy Riser?

DB
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Ronmold
Posted on Thursday, December 02, 2010 - 11:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Billyo, yes, with the bars narrower I needed about 3/4" less sweep back and 1/2" more drop at the ends. Not much change but the subtle difference is noticeable especially on longer rides.
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Mbest
Posted on Thursday, December 02, 2010 - 01:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey Desert Bird,
Nothing attached to the inside. It freely floats back and forth with the steering thru the holes in the Rox Risers. As the cables get more or less "slack" from the steering, the guide moves with the cables, On the full lock turns that would crush the cables between the frame and fork tube, the guide "thingie" gently positions the cables away from the pinch point. I made up A bunch of 'em and still have some laying around. I'll try and get one of them, me and a camera all in the same place at the same time and post a picture. if you need one and can't make your own, PM me and I'll mail you one.
ride safe
mike
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Blasterd
Posted on Thursday, December 02, 2010 - 02:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mike, I'd be interested in one of those "thingy's".
I have the same risers and my cables bind at full right. I'd be happy to pay for it.
Ken
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Mbest
Posted on Thursday, December 02, 2010 - 10:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ken, Send me a PM with a mail-to address and I'll get-er coming.
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Vecchio_lupo
Posted on Friday, December 03, 2010 - 11:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I run a ROX riser on my 08 Uly with no cable issues to speak of. The risers are angled back at a 45 degree angle so I get about 1" up and 1" back. great for me.
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7873jake
Posted on Saturday, December 11, 2010 - 07:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wolfridgerider,

Do you recall what length bolts you went with when you added the clamp to the stack?

I'm gonna try the $15 route before the $100 route.
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Wbrisett
Posted on Tuesday, December 14, 2010 - 05:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I put my ROX risers on a long time ago (nearly 3.5 years ago), I do remember having to take off one of the ties for some cables, but other than that, I didn't do anything else.

Wayne
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Tuesday, December 14, 2010 - 09:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Do you recall what length bolts you went with when you added the clamp to the stack?



man... that's been a while back.... but I'm thinking 2 1/4"

If I remember, I will put a tape on it tonight when I get home.
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