| Author | Message | ||
     Electraglider_1997 |
I for one will never buy gas from a BP station again. What they've done with their cutting corners is nothing short of terrorism. The lax federal regulators and all the BP executives should be hauled out to that gusher site and thrown in to sink or swim out through the oil. I'm not in anyway joking.  I weep for the fish and wildlife and golf coast residents caught up in that muck and with no end in sight. Pretty soon all of Florida's coasts will be awash with crude oil and then probably all of the east coast states. I don't think people realize the huge amount of crude that is blasting out under heat and pressure from BP's disaster. And this is going on around the clock. The feds need to explode a huge bomb on the seabed next to that gusher to close over that hole. Maybe this is the beginning of the end and we just don't know it yet. I've always wondered what damage we are doing just removing oil from the earth. Maybe it lubricates the tectonic plates and we are doing something we shouldn't. (Message edited by electraglider_1997 on June 12, 2010) | ||
| Sperz1 |
Man I appreciate your passion on the subject. But it is extremely misdirected. Do some research on the terrible things that ALL oil companies have done in the past, BP is just getting the most press right now. And like it or not, this is your fault. This is my fault, and everyone else in America. We scream when prices are too high, the scream when something happens when corners are cut. | ||
| Rwven |
The oil that BP extracts doesn't only end up in BP stations. Plus many BP stations are mom & pop owned businesses that had nothing to do with this debacle. I blame BP less for the oil reaching the beaches and marshes than I blame our own government, who has stood in the way of several viable attempts to mitigate the effects of the spill. Even beyond the regulatory lapses, the government refused the offer of Dutch oil skimming ships and blocked Gov. Jindal from erecting sand berms. In our multinational business world, boycotting BP stations won't hurt BP and will hurt small American business owners. | ||
| 12x9sl |
+1 Rwven and Sperz1. BP is definitely being used as the scapegoat here. While they share in the blame, they are getting way more than their fair share. I have been purposefully going to BP stations because of the government's heavy-handed bashing of the company. | ||
| Itileman |
Given your opinion of BP, I assume you also do not patronize Exxon stations. The federal government has dropped the ball on this one as clean up equipment sits in port in Texas and around the world. Calling in lawyers instead of technicians, scientists, engineers, tanker ships and able bodied workers is absolutely criminal.  | ||
| Court |
Shame is that if the United States government, awash in red tape and personal posturing, would get the hell out of the way this thing would be solved. There are hundreds of Dutch, and other, ships that have been offering to help since day 3 and that have been turned away due to the United States Jones Act. A company in Maine that makes the absorbent booms, at the rate of hundreds of thousands of feet a day, was told "we'll get back to you well over a month ago". BP bears responsibility for the disaster . . the federal government (it's not fair to say "Obama" since every fed who has gotten involved, most notably Carol Browner, has made proven themselves a complete idiot) has impeded the response in every way they can. What a shame. This thing could be completely resolved in 4 to 6 months. | ||
| Rangeridn |
Fact is BP is a cash generating machine...they are a major producer if everyone wants to stop buying from BP pumps I'm sure they can find someone willing to buy what they pull out of the ground. | ||
| Reepicheep |
I look forward to hearing the facts. If BP really did say "continue anyway" after they saw data that said there was serious problem... then I'm OK with that being a "company ending mistake". It was a life ending mistake for 13 people, so I'll shed no tears for executives putting profit in front of safety. If that's what happened... or if we will ever know. It may just come down to the fact that drilling a deep hole 1 mile below you is hard and dangerous. | ||
| Electraglider_1997 |
Had these fools done their homework to protect our environment instead of hoping bad things won't happen. Guess what, bad things ALWAYS eventually happen without fail. Now the Canadians want to run a thin walled pipe under high pressure across the Ogallala aquifer so they can move their tar sands oil down to the gulf of Mexico. Thin walled because it is cheaper. If that baby springs a leak the aquifer will forever be ruined. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogallala_Aquifer | ||
| Itileman |
I wouldn't worry too much about that. US farmers and ranchers will have that emptied by the time it gets built. But, filling it full of oil might not do any good either. http://hrd.apecwiki.org/index.php/The_Ogallala_Aqu ifer_and_Its_Role_as_a_Threatened_American_Resourc e (Message edited by itileman on June 12, 2010) | ||
| Swimmonkey |
By not buying gas from BP stations, you will not punish BP. You will be punishing small business owners who own BP stations and employ local folks and are a part of your community. You can put the local owners out of business but BP will still sell their gas to Costco, Walmart and any other retailer to whom they can dump their inventory. It is truly a terrible situation in the Gulf but BP station owners are not to blame. | ||
| Jphish |
For .00005% of BPs quarterly profits this could have been prevented with a $500K blow out apparatus. But they didnt want to make the initial 'investment'. Clearly the safety / environmental requirements are, & have been, grossly insufficient - relative to the potential for harm. I aint against oil companies, or 'for profit' entities perse' (I dont trust 'em either - BP flat lied about the volumes spewing from that well head) - we all use their products to fuel our Buells - but under regulated industries, with such potential for disaster, are just that...a disaster in progress, or merely waiting to happen. Profit always trumps environment, retrospectively a very short sighted view. But we're a slow learning species, hopefully this is a teachable moment. Humans are economically impacted & inconvenienced. However, the Plants cant run away & birds / fish / marine mammals got no place to hide - terrible for them!!! | ||
| Pherris |
"never let a good crisis go to waste", says Obama chief of staff Emanual. I see this as a welcomed tradegy by the Obama administration so he can exploit it to advance his socialist agenda. Hows that "hope and change" working? | ||
| Electraglider_1997 |
Pherris, I think you are wrong. Nobody welcomes what is happening down at the Gulf of Mexico. I am disappointed that our government is letting BP "try" to fix this problem. Obama needs to take the bull by the horns on this mess and I don't see him doing it. It is pissing me off to no end. I still am boycotting BP stations. | ||
| Matchanu |
I fail to see what this has to do with the XB12X Buell Uly. I think there's a forum for this kind of discussion. | ||
| Swimmonkey |
I agree with you Matchanu! With the media bullshit and the never ending doom and gloom crowd, there are few escapes. This discussion is ruining my buzz. Time for another DosXX! | ||
| Pso |
The WSJ has a nice write up. | ||
| Conchop |
Clarion call to renewables, higher efficiencies, sustainable living, keen government oversight of the fossil industries. If you really want to see who is responsible, go look in the mirror. The dollar votes everyday. | ||
| Conchop |
Live well. Grow your own. Kill it and grill it. Live within the cycles of nature. Spend your money on those things that are good for the environment. Reduce your stress by staying off the squirrel cage as much as you can. Our Uly's run on gasoline. Make it count. E85 kits may sell. Green high performance bikes might be the next big THING! | ||
| Bienhoabob |
This will make you sick. Long but interesting. http://www.wimp.com/oilspills/ |
