| Author | Message | ||
     Wired2 |
LOOKING FOR SUGGESTIONS FOR A SUMMER PROTECTIVE OVERPANT .... ANY SUGGESTIONS? | ||
| Rwven |
I'm a big fan of TourMaster products. I have one of their "Flex" jacket and pants combos. It's convertible to cover all seasons. | ||
| Xb12xmike |
Olympia is good too. | ||
| Liv2 |
Firstgear HT Air Mesh 2.0 over pants http://www.newenough.com/street/protective_apparel /mesh_jackets_and_pants/first_gear/ht_air_2_mesh_m otorcycle_overpants.html | ||
| Jim_sb |
I gave up years ago and spent the big bucks on an Aerostich Roadcrafter. Best money I ever spent on riding gear. In the winter I add a heated Gerbing jacket liner, in the summer you can wear it over shorts if you like and be fully protected. I've had some of the less expensive gear (e.g., Joe Rocket) and it simply is not made to the same high standards. The annals of motorcycling are filled with guys who have (unfortunately) gone down on the street wearing a Roadcrafter who have walked away from the crash. Included among those is one of my best friends who got taken into a K-rail on the freeway by a pickup truck in a construction zone. As Court says "always dress for fall". PS. If you're riding in Death Valley and it's really hot in the summer time - douse your head and tee shirt in water - zip up your Roadcrafter and put on your helmet and go ride. It'll keep you cool for about an hour in 115 deg. heat. Stop. Rinse. Repeat.  | ||
| Wired2 |
THANKS FOR THE CHOICES .. JIM SB IS THAT A ROADCRAFTER SUIT? DO THEY HAVE JUST A PANT? | ||
| Wired2 |
HOW ABOUT SIZING? | ||
| Bluzm2 |
Why are you shouting? First Gear HT2 Air Mesh. | ||
| Jim_sb |
Yes, Aerostich offers both Roadcrafter and Darien models of jacket and pant. Many sizing options. My Roadcrafter was custom built for me. They sent me their off the shelf model that was closest to my size, I put it on and sat on my bike in the garage. Then I called them (while sitting on the bike) and we took multiple measurements in place. Think "add a little here, take out a little there". Then I sent the demo suit back. A few weeks later I received a suit that had been tailored for me (and in my color choices). They aren't cheap. But they last forever and are repairable should they be damaged in a minor get-off. I've worn mine in 20 deg. F. conditions, rain, snow, hail. It works. If you ride 200 miles in a downpour the front zipper will at some point begin to leak a little bit and your crotch will get damp. Guess how I know? Seriously good gear, not cheap. Figure at least 20 years of regular use out of one. Maybe more. AFAIK the only synthetic riding suit that is approved for track day use. They are that good. | ||
| Mideon |
I'm a huge fan of Icon gear. They do have an overpant too www.rideicon.com They protected me very well when I was hit by the dui driver last month and I only had bruises no road rash | ||
| Wired2 |
THANKS FOR ALL THE INPUT ... | ||
| Barkbuster |
www.teizms.com Sort of new. I`m about to order their Lombard riding suit but they have pants and jackets and other stuff too.this thread @ advrider is a couple years old and 103 pages and still going if ya got time to read it! http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43 3219&page=103 | ||
| Froggy |
Yes, but the crash protection is horrid at best. The suit has next to no padding, even with the optional hip pads and back protector. Also after a few months it is no longer waterproof, and even from day 1 the zipper will always leak even in light drizzles. The suit is comfy, but thats all it has going for it. | ||
| Jim_sb |
My Roadcrafter has never leaked in light drizzles. Nor even moderate rain. It has leaked only a modest amount after riding for more than 2 hours in a total downpour, but only along the lower zipper area (below the waistline). The crash protection has been lauded by many riders, simply visit their web site and read the testimonials. My friend's bike was totaled on the K-rails, he was bruised but walked away. The TF3 armor works. He didn't even have any road rash. The suit makes extensive use of Goretex, nevertheless they encourage you to reapply waterproofing occasionally. I have never done that to mine and after several years it still works very well. And, as I said earlier, some track day schools here in SoCal allow the Roadcrafter in lieu of full racing leathers. I have never heard of them allowing any other ballistic nylon type suit in lieu of racing leathers. | ||
| Jim_williams |
The only suits I know of with more armor than the roadcrafter, with optional back pad/hip pads, is Motoport, and the newer BMW models with NP armor. Aerostich armor is a little goofy in that it's thick foam with a hard shell over the top. Coverage is good though. I'd like to see longer knee pads though Some of the highest rated armor one can buy these days is tiny in comparison. T-Pro is literally 1/2 the size of Aerostich armor. Sas-Tec is even smaller. People like to whine about Aerostich not keeping up with the times, but fact is they nailed it from the beginning. They don't claim their Roadcrafter is waterproof. In fact, they mention it is not meant to be, and give ideas on how to make it more waterproof. I don't want to sound like a geeky fanboy, but I guess I am even though I don't wear my roadcrafter as much as I used to. Tell you what? Given a last split second chance, I'd rather crash in my roadcrafter than in my new Klim Adventure jacket with the high end armor. The armor is great, but it's about 1/3 the size and I doubt anymore impact absorbent than the latest TF3. Rant off. | ||
| Wired2 |
NOW I AM CONFUSED .. ARE ALL THAT ARE MENTIONED 'PULL OVER JEANS' PANTS .. I AM LOOKING FOR DAILY SUMMER DRIVING .. 65 MILE TO AND FROM WORK PROTECTION .. DRIVE IN RAIN BUT NOT DOWNPOURS .. SAFE BUT COMFORTABLE AND NOT HOT .. THE AEROSTICH SEEMS VERY BULKY? .. | ||
| Ronmold |
Even bulky, the mesh pants still feels fairly cool. If you ever need to use the protection, and with the number of hours on the the road you'll be riding the odds go up, you will never regret having "bulky" padding! You will want to have a rain proof pair for "those days". | ||
| Pizat |
I think I'm about to purchase Olympia jacket and pants. Checked it out at a local shop and seem like really good quality and I haven't read a bad review on any of their gear yet. | ||
| Froggy |
Lucky bastard, even after waterproofing treatments, mine is at the point that its a screen door. I have had it only about 2 years and have only put about 60k miles on it, I currently don't have a car so the suit gets used daily.
I've crash tested my Roadcrafter 7 times in the last year, it fails, terribly. I hate how it even lacks basic chest/arm/leg protection, getting a small rock kicked up at you stings! My Buell Adventure suit would deflect them without causing pain, oh, and it crashes better. TF3 is a scam.
I gave up after wasting money with their kits that only make your suit smell.
Sportbike Track Time and many others will allow most 1 piece and two piece that zipper in the novice and intermediate classes. STT is the only one I know of that names the Roadcrafter as approved. I need to send my RC in for repairs and hopefully they can re-waterproof it, I have been shopping around trying to find a replacement, but there isn't much out there that is as versatile or just so good for day to day riding. | ||
| Dride |
I have a pair of Olympia Airglide 2 overpants. They work real nice in the summer, and they are comfortable too. They have a removable waterproof liner, but I have not tested it yet. I like the waist to ankle zippers. I haven't put on the comfort kit yet, and it does get a bit toasty through the mesh on my thigh. | ||
| Blasterd |
I use a Feildsheer Cyclone 1 peice suit year round, very warm in the winter, ok in the summer as long as your moving and waterproof. It is also fully armored but I'm not crazy about the spine pad, it stops halfway down your back- but I have been wearing my kidney belt from my dirt gear. | ||
| Hooper |
I have the Olympias as well - nice mesh panels on the thigh, back of the waist, and lower legs. I wear shorts under them in hot weather. Unlike Dride, what I don't like is the waist-to-ankle zipper - I really wish they'd ended it at the knee or so. When I hit a deer wearing these pants, the zipper on one side ripped open at mid-thigh, leaving that leg unprotected. Thankfully, I didn't slide on that side. And luckily, it was the dead of winter and I had the thermal liner, jeans, and a pair of long underwear on underneath. If I saw a pant with armor, mesh, AND a shorter zipper, I'd be psyched. | ||
| Wired2 |
LOOKS LIKE THE OLYMPIA AIRGLIDE 3 MESH OVERPANT FOR ME .. THANKS FOR ALL THE GREAT INPUT .. | ||
| Oldwesterncowboy |
draggin jeans and alpinestars leather jacket and alpinestars boots. year round. add electric vest in winter. if its over 90 out joe rocket mesh jacket instead of leather. and I keep bmw goretex rain suite in the bags | ||
| Cyclonedon |
I've crash tested my Roadcrafter 7 times in the last year damn Froggy, did you ever think about giving up motorcycle riding? Your going to cause insurance companies to not want to insure motorcycles any longer! I've been riding for over 40 years now and have only put my bike on the pavement twice. Didn't hit anything either time except for the payment.  | ||
| Cyclonedon |
as for riding gear, I have several suits. A Harley FXRG pants and jacket along with two different Buell suits. My favorite is the older version Buell with the removable liners for cold weather riding along with plenty of padding. It's waterproof and has good ventilation also. But if I had the money, I'd get a Raodcrafter one-piece suit. Most people who own one swear by them! | ||
| Bikertrash05 |
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| Hangetsu |
On Waterproofness - no suit, Gortex or otherwise, with that many sippers, vents, and seams will be completely waterproof and once Gortex fabric gets wet, it ceases to breath, so you're still get wet from perspiration. The biggest downfall of the Roadcrafter's weatherproofness is that it is a one layer suit. At some point water will penetrate the zippers and unsealed seams. If waterproofness is of high priority to you, I would highly recommend the gear from Olympia, particularly the AST jacket and ranger pants. What makes it superior to many others it the fact that both the outer shells and liners are made of waterproof materials. I have ridden in torrential downpours for hours on end and other than the trickle down the neck, no water penetrated both layers (except in the ass where water can be pushed through the Gortex membrane under your bodyweight. Riding with the inner liner can be a bit warm during a summer storm, but the amount of heat the water pulls from your body while riding tends to make things comfortable enough. My two bits, for what it's worth. A- | ||
| Hangetsu |
PS - I own both the AST and Ranger jacket/pant combination and the Bushwacker & Airglide mesh jacket & pants. I have ridden a good deal in summer rain in the mesh gear with the waterproof liner and been very happy with the weather protection they provided. In both setups I wear a light pair of synthetic long underwear to keep things from getting clammy between the skin and nylon and can ride very comfortably in a variety or temperatures and levels of precipitation. | ||
| Fubar |
I'm not a fan of mesh for daily riding cause I hate the liner hassle. I have Firstgear Kathmandu jacket and TPG pants and really like them. CE knee and hip armor. A fine all weather solution and not silly expensive. |
