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Buewulf
Posted on Friday, January 29, 2010 - 09:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've never had Syncs on the Uly, but I have on a different bike. I would have never even considered taking them off-road.

Even the D616s on the Uly now are more poor-road tires than off-road tires. Fairly tractive in the dirt for a street tire, but still a flimsy street tire. I can't wait for the Trails to come out. I'll be putting some on ASAP.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Friday, January 29, 2010 - 10:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I replace a rear at every 5k service; fronts typically last me 10k. 06 UlyX with bags that are typically (over)loaded : )
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Methed
Posted on Saturday, January 30, 2010 - 12:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks for posting this, Mike. If pricing is not unreasonable, I think I found my new pair of shoes.
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Tootal
Posted on Saturday, January 30, 2010 - 04:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Had a puncture on a worn sync and plugged it. When reaming the hole for the plug I was shocked at how thin the carcass was. We had to eventually use two ropes to get it to hold a plug till we replaced it at the nearest dealer. Never had any trouble plugging a tire before this. These new trails look good and sound much better.
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Etennuly
Posted on Saturday, January 30, 2010 - 05:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah Greg, I have had that happen with a plug also. I was amazed at one of my old take off tires at just how thin they are. If it is worn down near the threads they will cut really easily with a knife to show that they are very thin through the casing and belts. I have found the 616's, Syncs, and Pilot Road II's to be the same in that regard.

Really something to think about when you see a squid on a crotch rocket riding a wheelie at near 100 mph with the first layer of threads worn through.
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Tuesday, February 02, 2010 - 03:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

tires are in.... wooo hooo...
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Towpro
Posted on Tuesday, February 02, 2010 - 05:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wolf, what version did you get?
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Tuesday, February 02, 2010 - 06:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'll post some pics when I get them....

Michelin T63 130/80-17
Metzler Karoo 150/70-17

(Message edited by wolfridgerider on February 02, 2010)
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Wednesday, February 03, 2010 - 02:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well crap... the T63 isn't tubeless... that sucks.

I'm gonna attempt to put a tube in it.... CRAP!
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Scooter808484
Posted on Wednesday, February 03, 2010 - 03:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I went to Pirelli's site and could only find the Trails listed up to a 150 width. Anyone seen 190 anywhere but on a Ducati?
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Wednesday, February 03, 2010 - 03:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

just got off the phone with Michelin

The tech dept said a tube tire wouldn't work on a tubeless wheel eve with a tube stuck in it.

SOOOOO gotta return the T63 and order a Conti.... bummer
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Buewulf
Posted on Wednesday, February 03, 2010 - 04:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Anyone seen 190 anywhere but on a Ducati?

Ducati Dealership may be the only place to get them at first. Could be the only place for a long time depending on how much market Pirelli determines there is for a 190 dual sport.
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Mikef5000
Posted on Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 10:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I read on advrider that the 190 should be available in March.

I'm crossing my fingers.

And Mark, I've also read that a tube works fine in a tubless rim, it'll just take the speed rating down 1 level. You'd want a 4.1x17 I believe. The pony has them for $11.99.
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 12:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I want knobbers darnit!
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 01:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just don't want to take a chance on pinching the tube or something else going wrong.

I am going to return it and get a conti for the front.
I should have just went with that set up from the get go.

Tell me about it Blake.... I keep looking at the Suzuki DR-Z 400 with lustful eyes...
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 04:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Keep the street bike, and get a $1000 or $1500 KDX-200 or KDX-220 (95 or later).

Put stupidly aggressive and soft knobbies on that, idle up vertical surfaces, and lift the thing up into a trailer with one hand.

Wolf or Blake, c'mon over to Lebanon, and we will throw a couple KDX's in the trailer and drive up to Pike Forest or Big Rock and you can play.
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Rotorhead
Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 12:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I ran a tube in the front knob on mine for close to 3000 miles. No issues. The Conti 130 will rub the forks. I have done the conti's and they didn't work up front but the rear did stretch tubeless for 3000 miles. I'd try the tube and see how it goes for you. make sure the tube stem is long enough and the right diameter.I used the tube on my dustybutt 1000 attempt and it worked out fine.
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 12:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What kind of tire did you run with the tube?
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Rotorhead
Posted on Sunday, February 07, 2010 - 12:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

OK don't laugh but it was a
4.60 - 17 cheng shin c755 http://www.tiresunlimited.com/ALL%20TIRES/Cheng%20Shin/ChengShin_C755_Knobbies.htm



not a DOT tire but it worked for what I need it to and the ULY worked great off road but handled not quite to BUELL standards on the road. If I mount up another for the cheap price I will try the 3.50 they make just to see if it handles better. Oddly the fat tire floated well over deep sand
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Bzrider
Posted on Sunday, February 07, 2010 - 09:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

has any one found a way to order the tkc 80 120/90 17 they make them and list them on the continental web site in europe
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Saturday, February 27, 2010 - 02:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well the 130 WONT fit on the front of a STT... It hit the muffler... BUMMMER!
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Etennuly
Posted on Saturday, February 27, 2010 - 02:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you are going to run a tube in a tubeless rim use a glue, like 3M's yellow trim adhesive on the bead. With lower air pressure and gobs of torque and weight, it would be easy to spin one on the rim a little. That would take out the stem for sure.

My dirt squirter spoked tube type rims have internal bead locks.
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Reedracers
Posted on Monday, March 01, 2010 - 12:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've tried 2 or 3 different brands of tires and last year I went over to my local motard track in Stockton, they race on dirt as well as pavement and run 17 inch sportbike wheels , I had a look at what the motard guys were running for tires and found that the privateers that didnt have a tire deal were running Shinko Ravens they told me they get excellent traction on the dirt as well as pavement and hold up very well.I have been running these for about the last 5000 miles mostly commuting and they perform very well and look almost new at that mileage. Plus they are very inexpensive.
just my 2 cents,
Dwayne
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Dr_greg
Posted on Monday, March 01, 2010 - 03:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Anyone know how thick the carcass is on the Shinko Ravens?

--Doc
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Mikef5000
Posted on Monday, March 01, 2010 - 10:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

They are considered "Sport-Performance" tires. So they may work fine on a smooth dry dirt track (like supermoto), but I wouldn't count on them working well in anything technical (rocks/mud/wet) and they aren't going to be especially durable.

But if they look great after 5000 miles, they're a viable contender for on-road sport-touring.
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Growl
Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2010 - 01:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I run Shinko Ravens... the carcass is substantial and the unique tread pattern works surprisingly well on dirt roads. Better than expected, to be sure.
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Danger_dave
Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2010 - 01:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Re new Pirellis - I don't like dual compound tyres on the Uly anyway.

On every rear I've used the edges have been fluffed up and completely spent while there's still thousands of miles left in the middles.
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Mikef5000
Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2010 - 09:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The new pirelli's are not dual compound.

I need to ride 100 miles just to get to good curves. Every set of tires I've ever had was bald in the middle with plenty of tread left around the outside by the time I changed them. Even the tires I took to the track. That's just the way it is around here.
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Ll7
Posted on Monday, March 08, 2010 - 08:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Has any one tried the Avon AV49, and AV50
tires they look pretty cool. If so, how was the mileage on these and how did they handle?
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Tipsymcstagger
Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 05:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


quote:

has any one found a way to order the tkc 80 120/90 17 they make them and list them on the continental web site in europe



I'm in Cologne, Germany pretty frequently and plan to try to find a 120-90-17 TKC to bring home with me next time I'm there.

Tipsy
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Ulywife
Posted on Wednesday, April 28, 2010 - 01:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

bumped out of archives
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Mikef5000
Posted on Wednesday, April 28, 2010 - 01:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If we continue this thread in the Tires section here:
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/384 2/150224.html?1271079337
We won't have to worry about it being archived.
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